"Rape Game" On Amazon Triggers Anger, Outrage
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This.mike1921 said:
Does anyone here think that someone who likes to be dominated wants to be raped for real? People sometimes.
Edit:Missed a word.
Either everything's okay to make a game about, or nothing is.Vanguard1219 said:
If there was a game in which you torture, rape, mutilate and creatively kill thousands of human babies in hundreds of different ways... well, there probably is such a game. But my point is censorship is retarded, no matter how objectionable the game/film/image/book is. It's the kind of thing Hitler would've done.
Incidentally, spare a moment for the people who had to develop this game.
Boss: Alright, guys, our next project will be a rape game.
Lead artist: ANOTHER ONE? Seriously, we just finished that tentacle thing last week. Can't we just do a sandbox game or an MMO?
Boss: NO! This is our niche and we're sticking with it. Or would you prefer a bestiality game?
Lead artist: *sigh* Rape game it is, then. Let's draw straws to see who'll be in the motion capture suit this time.
Whoa! Stop right there! Before you just quoted me out of context I was referring to how games like this one hurt our industry's argument that games don't turn kids into violent sociopaths. I didn't say a single word about how they didn't have the right to make it or whether or not it was even okay.oktalist said:
Why don't you stop and think real hard about what you want to say before you start putting words into people's mouth and compare them to Hitler of all people.
Sorry, I didn't mean to pick on you. I just wanted to counter your Southpark quote with one of my own. But you did seem to me to be indicating that you thought the game ought not to have been released (well, actually that would be a reasonable opinion, one which perhaps I share, but the fact is they did release it and we can't stop them, nor should we). The Hitler thing I added as an afterthought, not in a serious way which I hoped would be apparent as comparing people/things to Hitler is kind of a cliche of intarnets forums. People and things have been compared to Hitler and Nazis elsewhere in this thread, I think.Vanguard1219 said:
The point about these sorts of games damaging the industry is a complex one that I could get into a long argument about, but I don't want to because of course arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics, even if you win, and so on. It just sounded like a round-about way to come out in support of the censorship brigade, in effect allowing the likes of Keith Vaz to get what they want. I don't think it's really the fault of these games, but the fault of tw*ts like him using them as leverage. That's really all I want to say on the subject or I'm going to start comparing people to Osama Bin Laden and George frickin Bush.
Godwin's Law at it's best. Only took us 8 pages. Or did I miss an earlier one? >=)Vanguard1219 said:
There seems to be a lot of misandrist backlash against gamers, most of whom are presumed to be male.
This is really offensive, just because it's a game doesn't mean that any person who plays games thinks it's acceptable. We all think this game is disgusting and reprehensible.
If this were a book that doesn't mean you can condemn all books and people that read them.
This is really offensive, just because it's a game doesn't mean that any person who plays games thinks it's acceptable. We all think this game is disgusting and reprehensible.
If this were a book that doesn't mean you can condemn all books and people that read them.
I don't agree with this sentiment. I don't think the medium is developed enough to deal with many issues in a responsible way.oktalist said:
I am in favour of censorship in instances like this, I don't think that there can be any benefit to content of this nature.
Huh, a rape game. Looks pretty funny, huh?
Anyway, wow. People are actually reacting to this? Maybe we'll accept rape games soon, I mean, weren't people "appalled" when other games somewhat similar to this came out? I haven't followed the matter too much, but were there people chanting "It is intolerable that anyone would purchase a game that simulates the criminal offense of (grand theft auto/murder/mob actions)" when such games came out? Yeah, I'm pretty sure there were. But those people will have to fall back into the crowd eventually since these things DO exist.
Anyway, wow. People are actually reacting to this? Maybe we'll accept rape games soon, I mean, weren't people "appalled" when other games somewhat similar to this came out? I haven't followed the matter too much, but were there people chanting "It is intolerable that anyone would purchase a game that simulates the criminal offense of (grand theft auto/murder/mob actions)" when such games came out? Yeah, I'm pretty sure there were. But those people will have to fall back into the crowd eventually since these things DO exist.
If we must ban videogames about rape then movies, music, books and anything involving the subject should be banned as well?
The funny thing is, while everyone is debating this over here in Japan there's hardly anything to debate, dozens of games like that one get released with no outrages whatsoever. Over there they actually understand which games are for kids and which not.
The funny thing is, while everyone is debating this over here in Japan there's hardly anything to debate, dozens of games like that one get released with no outrages whatsoever. Over there they actually understand which games are for kids and which not.
No argument here about the lack of any benefit. My point was more that this sort of thing is the thin end of the wedge, the start of a slippery slope; who decides what's horrible enough to be censored? As many others have pointed out, should GTA be taken off the shelves?beddo said:
It's de facto censored anyway due to no right-thinking retailer ever considering stocking it (Amazon cock-ups notwithstanding). It's a piece of shit which no-one outside of Japan would ever, ever have found if it hadn't been publicised in this way. It's like those inflammatory Danish anti-Islamic cartoons, the newspapers here were saved from having to choose between publishing them in the name of news reporting thereby inviting hate and possibly violence, or censoring them thereby giving in to the people who would intimidate and threaten them with violence. They were saved from having to make that decision by the fact that the cartoons were just rubbish, with no redeeming artistic merit. They weren't really censored, they just weren't reproduced because they were shit. Like this game.
And censorship doesn't work, especially in the age of the Internet, if someone really wants something they'll find it, censored or not.
You can't accurately judge anything based on Japan. I'm pretty sure that even France is devoid of vending machines that sell lacy underwear. When the story broke about the guy who married his DS girlfriend I instantly knew it had to be in Japan. They have a 30' statue of an anime character straddling a raised train track. These things might be strange elsewhere, but in Japan it's nothing new.
I still don't get the obsession with rape, though. I mean, anime and games in general can get pretty weird because they lead such structured lives they have to break out somewhere, so I guess it's just that taken to the extreme. Thus why it seems like a hentai isn't allowed to be published unless there's at least some questionable consent somewhere in there. It's like that yaoi Legend of Blue Wolves where the guy's boyfriend was actually really nice so he had to be raped by someone else, like there's a quota they have to fill for it or something.
BUT STILL, while the concept of this game is creepy beyond all reckoning the Japanese are at least keeping it to themselves in strangeland.
I still don't get the obsession with rape, though. I mean, anime and games in general can get pretty weird because they lead such structured lives they have to break out somewhere, so I guess it's just that taken to the extreme. Thus why it seems like a hentai isn't allowed to be published unless there's at least some questionable consent somewhere in there. It's like that yaoi Legend of Blue Wolves where the guy's boyfriend was actually really nice so he had to be raped by someone else, like there's a quota they have to fill for it or something.
BUT STILL, while the concept of this game is creepy beyond all reckoning the Japanese are at least keeping it to themselves in strangeland.
I really wish I was sit with these guys and could argue for videogames, I'd totally floor them.