Can all the males here honestly say they have never had the desire to rape a hot chick? If you think you haven't I'm pretty sure you've either forced yourself to forget about it, or convinced yourself otherwise because everyone around you has done the same thing, or you're gay. And if you are gay, you've probably thought about tying up some boy you liked in class and...(ok, that's the line). It doesn't matter what you want to do, what matters is what you actually do. The most important thing is what you would do if the police disappeared and order came to an end. If you saw a good looking woman would you rape her? Would you want to rape her? Of course you would. She?s helpless and hot. Anyone under thirty would have that thought. What matters is self discipline, not fantasies. Everyone who plays a game is acting out a fantasy. It seems that in Japan, they don't discriminate against people with certain sexual fantasies. Anyone who has played a violent videogame clearly doesn't have any aversion to the fantasy of killing huge numbers of people, but that doesn't mean they would kill huge numbers of people in real life. If they would, they should have been in a more structured, and disciplined environment as a child. Oh what the hell, they?re one of the retard babies the working class has been pumping out by the truckload, and need to be put on the government depopulation list. The same goes for someone who would actually act out any other criminal fantasy in real life. What ultimately matters is the amount of discipline and responsibility the individual has. We are all (as males, pretty much most of us) born as dogs, savages. We will all inherently want to be accepted and beat up people we don?t like. We will all inherently do what the popular dog says and go with the crowd. We will all inherently want to destroy that which we don?t like. We will all inherently want to make others feel pain at our hands because it will make us feel big and powerful. We all want to make anyone who is weaker than us recoil in fear when we get near, to affirm our power over them. We all want to show our power to woman by defeating other males in front of them. We all want to beat up another man and have sex with his woman. And yes, I declared that a woman is a man?s property. That?s how we are born thinking. It is only in the last couple centuries that we have advanced beyond such thoughts. Well, we haven?t really, but officially we have. Maybe you guys have lived in some kind of institute for geniuses, but I have seen the Forces of Chaos, I know how they think. The only reason they don?t rape or beat preppy kids to death is because they would get in trouble. If that weren?t there they would lynch anyone they don?t like, rape everyone woman they see, and generally have a good time in the same way a parasite has a good time. I am offended that people would consider ME evil for having the desire to rape a woman. I have been in the belly of the beast, I have walked with the people who would lynch black people, enjoy their screams of pain, and would act upon their inherent desires without a thought. We are all born like that. The level of evil one is depends on how much they have mentally grown. Let me make something clear: the desire to do evil does not make one evil, the act of evil is evil. You?re living in a pretty small part of the world if you think the desire to rape is ?sick.? Two thirds of North American men say that they would rape a woman if they could get away with it. You are in the minority. Or are you? That poll was probably anonymous. I can truthfully say that while I would without a doubt want to rape a woman, I would NOT if I could get away with it. I am in the minority, and proud of it.
"Rape Game" On Amazon Triggers Anger, Outrage
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Games like this should not exist, rape is a horrible crime.
I know a lot of people will try to jump to the defense of a game, but maybe coming together and setting a bar for ourselves is a good. If a video of someone being raped where released for profit, plenty of activists would be against the issue and boycott said product "which I would not be against". So if the same does not hold true for a video game, then we stunt ourselves, I can understand the hate against the VAZ guy, but in this case his concern is legitimate, and should be respected, if we in turn want to be treated with respect.
I know a lot of people will try to jump to the defense of a game, but maybe coming together and setting a bar for ourselves is a good. If a video of someone being raped where released for profit, plenty of activists would be against the issue and boycott said product "which I would not be against". So if the same does not hold true for a video game, then we stunt ourselves, I can understand the hate against the VAZ guy, but in this case his concern is legitimate, and should be respected, if we in turn want to be treated with respect.
The best thing to do about this game.... Is to ignore it. As I mentioned in a previous post, the game was not built for anyone outside Japan, and is most likely an underground game bought by a rather limited audience. The fact that it wound up on Amazon is most likely due to coincidence.
So yeah, while the game's content is objectionable, it's not exactly anything new... I recall seeing a Law and Order episode a while back about rape fetish tapes, so this whole deal isn't news to us. It's just being dug up by a man with an agenda.
So yeah, while the game's content is objectionable, it's not exactly anything new... I recall seeing a Law and Order episode a while back about rape fetish tapes, so this whole deal isn't news to us. It's just being dug up by a man with an agenda.
Games like this have been around for a long time, there is also several incarnations of "Battle Raper" which sees with every hit you make, a piece of clothing flies off.
Like most I don't agree with the moral ground of it but after reading quotes (My girlfriend did an essay on this for her university course) some japanesse officals insist that it reduces the rate of rape because they don't have to commit it in real life. It satisfies their fetish. I can problery edit this post to show links to them later but don't have time atm.
though if the BBFC didn't know about it, i'm pretty sure Amazon has broken the law. Like movies, games with adult content can't be sold without a BBFC certification.
Like most I don't agree with the moral ground of it but after reading quotes (My girlfriend did an essay on this for her university course) some japanesse officals insist that it reduces the rate of rape because they don't have to commit it in real life. It satisfies their fetish. I can problery edit this post to show links to them later but don't have time atm.
though if the BBFC didn't know about it, i'm pretty sure Amazon has broken the law. Like movies, games with adult content can't be sold without a BBFC certification.
The reason people are in such an uproar about this game is because while NORMAL people know the difference between real and fantasy and can play games like GTA and RapeLay without getting any ideas, Idiots will play this game and immediately go out and attempt to replicate it in reality. (Like the 2 kids who took rifles and shot people over an intersection because they saw it on GTA 3). In order to protect the innocent we must ban games like this so retards can't play them. Thus, preventing the normal people from enjoying themselves (I speak of games like Manhunt and GTA in this perspective, RapeLay is going WAY to far). In the words of George Carlin "People are fucking nuts".
true, however the action is still being depicted, and as someone above has already stated, the idea of "conditioning" is brought into play, yes it is a fictional image, but the mental concept is still their. Beyond that, you can't tell me theirs nothing of poor taste with a game where you play as a person who rapes a mother and her daughters?mike1921 said:
Lets look at it "fictionally" as a movie, where the people technically are not real, the idea that you are taking on a glorified perspective of such behavior would still be considered obscene by most courtrooms.
Still the world does not follow one set law, likewise their are free trade technicalities and what have you. What I'm saying is the outrage is against the game not the industry, and as it is a part of the industry, those who support games would be justified and in my opinion right, in frowning upon and petitioning against something that in accordance to their own laws and beliefs, is or should be illegal.
The depiction, and "conditioning" aren't why it'd be illegal. It's illegal because it's an actual person being raped. Either that, or I'm a felon for watching all that bdsm porn.
See, I don't care whether it's in poor taste.
It's downright horrifying if courts could say something's "obscene" and that effect anything.
For one, it's idiotic to say something should be illegal because of the laws you have in your country or state. Someone who thinks there government is always right should be avoided like the plague. For two, I stand strongly by my belief that trying to ilegalize something because you're against it, while it doesn't hurt anyone, is advocating Totalitarianism.
A line needs to be drawn. I've read the arguments here asking why mass murder in games is permitted while something like rape draws such a vehement response. In my mind it is simple. It all has to do with the circumstances. While depicting a soldier, or hell even a hitman in a video game involves killing, there is always the underlying assumption that said killed people are the "bad guys". Even when one kills civilians in GTA, the player knows they are committing what in real life would be an abomination. Police are called, other human beings run in terror. This so called rape game blurs the line between what is right and wrong, while other games simply show you a single side. The line needs to be drawn somewhere and I think this is where it should be. Ask someone who has been raped if they found it "fun", or if they'd like to play a game about it. Similarly ask someone who has been shot if they'd play a game where they handle a gun. I'm sure a lot more "bullet wound" folks would pick up a controller (not all of course) then would a rape victim.
They may not play those games, but that hardly means that such a game should or should not be made. It would be like arguing that BDSM should not be practiced since it involves what is effectively simulated rape.Velocirapture07 said:
