Rape Games Banned in Japan

[zacaron]

the EOCS is a voluntary organization and the ban is not legally binding.

heh thats amazing a voluntary rule enforcer I dont think the sale of rape games will decline much

 

[Outcast107]

I love how a lot of people are saying that if they ban rape, they'll ban other stuff...Listen people, Im all for freedom of speech and all, but you have to stop at a certain point. And rape is going WAY! to far for a game. just as Postal is going to far with just mindlessly killing people. So use your brain, if they don't stop it somewhere, then it will get worst and worst.

Freedom of Speech, besides screaming fire in a theater or whatnot, can never go too far.


It's fantasy and it's not harming anyone. Pixels and animation....that's all it is.

Are you a moron? screaming bomb or fire in a public place will cause panic. With the world like it is now a days, most people are going to believe it. And it can go to far if the people panic and someone dies because the person gets trample on, or some other form of death. Everything needs a stopping point. And rape games should never be made. IDC what you sicko think that it should be left alone, and its not "hurting anyone." Rape imo is worst then anything, and who ever does it, should be put to death.

I would suggest someone else as the moron since my quote CLEARLY says "BESIDES screaming fire in a theater....."

A video game with pixels depicting fictional actions don't hurt anyone. Rape in real life, however, does hurt people. If you can't tell the difference between fiction and reality then I feel sorry for you.

You know what...I can tell I won, since you just said the same thing over. So GG to me. Im done talking on this topic. Kindof makes me sick that people are defending this game. But hey, I guess you like this sort of thing you little sicko.

 

[Cliff_m85]

I love how a lot of people are saying that if they ban rape, they'll ban other stuff...Listen people, Im all for freedom of speech and all, but you have to stop at a certain point. And rape is going WAY! to far for a game. just as Postal is going to far with just mindlessly killing people. So use your brain, if they don't stop it somewhere, then it will get worst and worst.

Freedom of Speech, besides screaming fire in a theater or whatnot, can never go too far.


It's fantasy and it's not harming anyone. Pixels and animation....that's all it is.

Are you a moron? screaming bomb or fire in a public place will cause panic. With the world like it is now a days, most people are going to believe it. And it can go to far if the people panic and someone dies because the person gets trample on, or some other form of death. Everything needs a stopping point. And rape games should never be made. IDC what you sicko think that it should be left alone, and its not "hurting anyone." Rape imo is worst then anything, and who ever does it, should be put to death.

I would suggest someone else as the moron since my quote CLEARLY says "BESIDES screaming fire in a theater....."

A video game with pixels depicting fictional actions don't hurt anyone. Rape in real life, however, does hurt people. If you can't tell the difference between fiction and reality then I feel sorry for you.

You know what...I can tell I won, since you just said the same thing over. So GG to me. Im done talking on this topic. Kindof makes me sick that people are defending this game. But hey, I guess you like this sort of thing you little sicko.

And I can guess that you are a teenager with the reading abilities of a elementary schooler. So GG to me. I'm so smug it's DELICIOUS!!!! /sarcasm

And I can tell you won (won what? A discussion? Can you win a discussion?) because you just said the same thing you said three times as well as resorted to red herrings and name-calling rather than an intellectual argument. So congrats, chappy. You are the master of argumentation.

 

[The Shade]

The fact that these games existed in the first place is horrifying, though sadly not surprising. It is Japan, after all. They're an odd bunch.

Still, if they've taken steps to get rid of this bizarre and disgusting genre, they earn a few bonus points.

I'm pretty sure that box art in the OP is going to haunt more than a few people, though. *cringes*

 

[13lackfriday]

Urgh, that cover really doesn't help the porno business's case.
Spells out the whole predatory nature of this kind of entertainment...almost as bad as those cases in the US involving men found with pedophilic material who got off on some very shrewd nitpicking on the part of their lawyers.

If this kind of niche entertainment has to exist, they could at least be a little more discreet about it.
They've been around too long, comfortable under the indifference of government.

I have mixed feelings about this. Obviously rape is a horrible and hideous thing, but this is fictionalized rape. It doesn't harm anyone at all. I think that it should still be legal for sale to those who want it.

That's just going to entice people to try the real thing when they're through with the pixels.

So what you're saying is that we are all potential rapists and it just takes a few pixels to convince us to try the real thing?

What a disgusting look at humanity!

It's only human nature.
And we, as humans, are really just animals too, with the same instincts and impulses.

You give someone a taste of something, they'll want more.
Virtual recreations have their limits.

Actually it's not human nature and it's a disgusting thought that everybody has a hidden rapist deep down inside of them and that any small enticement would bring it out of them.

I play Grand Theft Auto, but I'm never inclined to steal a vehicle or murder someone.
I drink alcohol occassionally, but never to excess. (Having a taste, want more claim)

Obviously we are animals, but we actually don't have the same instincts and impulses. We have a complex moral system and a sense of our own mortality that hinders certain behaviours for most people.

Some people don't place the same kind of inhibitions on themselves.

They becomes so fed up on the virtual fuck fodder, they become convinced it's just as possible and appropriate when applied to reality.

 

[awesomemans]

Japanese games are just straight up weird, and it seems that there is no middle ground between dark and creepy and bright and cheery. To be honest, this game just seems fucked up to me. But now I'm wondering how weird it is that we can murder people in games but not rape them. I'm requesting a rape feature in Saints Row 3!

Ah well, at least I get points for nut shots.

Seriously, how can games like Noby Noby Boy and Katamari Damacy be made in the same country where some of the most popular games are the rape simulators?

 

[Cliff_m85]

Urgh, that cover really doesn't help the porno business's case.
Spells out the whole predatory nature of this kind of entertainment...almost as bad as those cases in the US involving men found with pedophilic material who got off on some very shrewd nitpicking on the part of their lawyers.

If this kind of niche entertainment has to exist, they could at least be a little more discreet about it.
They've been around too long, comfortable under the indifference of government.

I have mixed feelings about this. Obviously rape is a horrible and hideous thing, but this is fictionalized rape. It doesn't harm anyone at all. I think that it should still be legal for sale to those who want it.

That's just going to entice people to try the real thing when they're through with the pixels.

So what you're saying is that we are all potential rapists and it just takes a few pixels to convince us to try the real thing?

What a disgusting look at humanity!

It's only human nature.
And we, as humans, are really just animals too, with the same instincts and impulses.

You give someone a taste of something, they'll want more.
Virtual recreations have their limits.

Actually it's not human nature and it's a disgusting thought that everybody has a hidden rapist deep down inside of them and that any small enticement would bring it out of them.

I play Grand Theft Auto, but I'm never inclined to steal a vehicle or murder someone.
I drink alcohol occassionally, but never to excess. (Having a taste, want more claim)

Obviously we are animals, but we actually don't have the same instincts and impulses. We have a complex moral system and a sense of our own mortality that hinders certain behaviours for most people.

Some people don't place the same kind of inhibitions on themselves.

They becomes so fed up on the virtual fuck fodder, they become convinced it's just as possible and appropriate when applied to reality.

Right, that's why everyone who has played GTA4 eventually went out and stole a car, slept with and killed a prostitute to get their money back, and murdered innocent bystanders.


Claims without evidence are to be thrown out. Slippery slope arguments are nonsensical.

 

[dudeman0001]

Rape is considered to by many to be the most depraved and heinous of crimes, even more heinous than murder or treason. The act takes away the feeling and basic human right of personal safety. For a victim was violated in a way that was sacred and the rapist uses sex which is normally an act of trust and love into a weapon. These games aren't a good release. The normal human being has a violent fantasy now and again, but most games depict them in an act of defense. Violent video games tend not harbor more of the mentality and promote it. They don't distort the violence as a magical thing where the victim "likes to be killed, or was just asking for it"These games are made for an audience that will continue to harbor these urges after playing. They are simply an excercise in sadism and morally abhorrent beliefs...
BEST COMMENT EVER

 

[likalaruku]

There's so much media in Japan involving rape, that I can see banning all of it causing the Japanese economy to tank for a few years. Rape seems to be very romanticized there, even having it's own genres; It's common to see comics written by women for women about men raping boys & most hentai seem to go right into lolicon territory.

 

[Mournful Crow]

Rape Games Banned in Japan

The Ethics Organization of Computer Software [http://www.sofurin.org/], Japan's PC game rating agency, has called for a halt to the retail sale of videogames that simulate rape.

The ban appears to be the culmination of events that began in February, when two copies of the Japanese game RapeLay Equality Now [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/89398-Rape-Game-On-Amazon-Triggers-Anger-Outrage].

Equality Now actually launched a Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women [http://www.equalitynow.org/english/actions/action_3301_en.html] to "eliminate works that normalize and promote sexual violence against women and girls."

Amazingly, according to the Canned Dogs [http://zepy.momotato.com/2009/05/28/rape-games-are-now-banned-in-japan/] blog (which translated the original Tokyo Broadcasting System report), this particular genre is estimated to make up 10-20 percent of the Japanese PC game industry and the EOCS had not previously considered it a problem. But with the pressure growing, the organization has now decided to comply with the demand and seek a ban not just on the retail sale of such games but also their development by any of its more than 200 members.

The new measures take effect on June 2, although it may not be enough to satisfy critics: Like the ESRB [http://www.esrb.org] in North America, the EOCS is a voluntary organization and the ban is not legally binding.

via: Gamasutra [http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=23803]


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I never realized that they even had games like this... I honestly have trouble keeping an open mind on this matter. A sexually open culture has it's rights to exist and go about it's business with whatever said business is, but... Rapelay?... I've never been this speechless since... Well, since the last time I watched Law and Order: SVU...

On a more open note, I can see how this could be a safer alternative to actual rape for those who are... Predisposed to that sort of thing, but I can also see how this could end up being a sort of... Gateway activity that could lead to actual rapes... I don't know enough about Japanese culture to make a judgement as to the moral subjects involved, but I... I'm a little mixed on this subject... I see no reason to impose one nation's values upon another's, but a game about rape... Damn...

EDIT: sorry about the massive quote, I dunno how to snip bits and pieces of it to make it work out cleanly...

 

[DracoSuave]

You know, we really gotta shove all of these people in an island and nuke them

...that awkward moment when you read someone demanding nuking an island regarding a news item from Japan, and you're not sure if the irony is intentional or accidental...

 

[Epona]

Why do we, as a society, act like rape is worse than murder?