Razer CEO: No PS3 Accessories Because I Barely Play Mine

[FieryTrainwreck]

He can say whatever he wants. But it is illogical. The PS3 and Xbox 360 are very much equivalent devices. I use my PS3 more often because it has more exclusives I can't play on my PC. But if I were "stuck" with either one, I wouldn't consider myself particularly screwed either way. That in mind, a lot of people have a PS3 and no 360, and it makes no difference to them just as it wouldn't for players in the opposite situation.

So uh... why ignore half the market because you happen to own both and play primarily on your 360?

 

[Drejer43]

I'm curious as to what it is the xbox does that holds his interest

 

[Vyress]

Razer's products, in particular its Xbox 360 fight sticks, are often regarded by gamers as being of very high quality and some of the best third party peripherals on the market.

Har?
Last time I checked, every peripheral Razer made that I had my eyes on had quite a number complains in user reviews about their durability and overall quality. Sure, Razer makes some flashy looking equipment and I love my Imperator 2012 Elite which luckily I didn't have any issues with so far but quality was certainly not one of its selling points - the christmas discount for it on amazon was. It also happened to be one of only 4 mice which were comfy for my hand (the other being all Logitech MX518, G400 and G500).

That said, I can't think of any peripheral Razer could make for the PS3 that I would be interested in in the first place. Not everyone prefers fight sticks for their fighting games, I can play Blazblue and DOA5 with my normal controller on high level against others just fine. And I dont need a PS3 controller with an illuminated Razer emblem or glowing sticks on it

 

[pandorum]

I have NEVER understood people like this. There is not a single damn thing the 360 has over the PS3, except for a handful of (subpar) exclusives. Even if you disagree on that part, the PS3 has everything the 360 has, but with MORE exclusives. the only real reason why I've seen people choose a 360 over a PS3 is because their friends have it. Which is arguably a testament to the 360's "stellar" online functions, but I disagree with this assessment. Instead, I think Microsoft has a MUCH MUCH better marketing campaign, especially for American audiences (and perhaps more shrewed business practices).

The reason is Xbox products are a bit shit (looking at you D-pad and add on battery packs) so there is always a need to upgrade. Sony makes really good first party products which make MOST third party products sub par, just be grateful that you do not need to pay more for a better controller on top of the asking price for the original controller.

 

[Strazdas]

It's funny because in the PC gaming world Razer is overpriced junk.

For the price of their cheapest Keyboards you could easily get a mechanical keyboard from a company like coolermaster. At least that's the case in NZ.

indeed it seems that razer stuff is same stuff, except they put a led light on it and doubled the price. its almost like alienware where you pay half the price for brand name and some flashy lights. and all razer PC stuff i tried at hosues wherep eopel actually own it i found utterly unconfortable. thank you ill stick to my logitech, its good enough quality for what i need whiel stil lbeing cheap.

Perhaps it's a good thing the PS3 isn't littered with more, cheap, knock-off crap.

Use some of their gear and make that statement as a pissed of user; that way everyone will stop calling you a racist.

Long story short, Razor gear is largely okay but not amazing. I prefer Logitech but both companies have created some really bitching gear and some fucking awful missteps.

What exactly makes those damn things worth so much? I swear just having them puts a keyboard in the 100+ USD price range for no good reason.

Mechanical ones are really good for typing because they give great tactile feedback, and a friend of mine who was a gaming fiend in days gone by liked his old IBM Model-M because the damn thing just would not die, not matter how rough he was with it.

i would never buy a non-mechanical keyboard. they are simply amazing. i still got the old chicony keyboards thats working after 10 years of busy work despote being sunk in pretty much every liquid i had at one time or another. they just never die. and that thing was cheap. like 5 dollars cheap (back then 5 dollars was bigger sum of money than now around here. our wages have almost doubled in last 10 years).

I read it all, I was just condensing it for you. Does the fault in, "the 360 has subpar exclusives, but even if you like them you can't deny the PS3 has more SO Y U NO BY PS3?!" really need to be spelled out?

obviuosly this is a peronal opinion and by no way a fact or anything. but whenever i looked up at a game, though it might be one im interested in enough to actually look it up, and it was a exclusive, it ALWAYS was a PS3 one. im sure some people are interested in Halo and stuff, but there really are no Xbox exclusives for some people.

 

[Lovely Mixture]

Yeah, this only reaffirms that businesses are losing touch with reality.

Apple (pre-2010): "Why do you want flash? It's not necessary. I don't use it, so you shouldn't need to use it."
Blizzard (): "I mean really? How many people are gonna want to play Diablo III offline? Don't want to be part of the Auction House? Too bad."
Microsoft: "If you don't have a stable internet connection? Stick with 360......w-wait sorry, we didn't mean that."
Sony and Microsoft: "Backwards compatibility? That's not our concern right now."
Razer: "I don't like PS3, therefore we shouldn't make products for it."

This is why I don't own a Sony console, I don't want to be a part of this insane cult that worships anything Sony despite it's quality and curses everything that is not Sony and anyone that dares to express their lack of interest in the one true console.

Yeah gee. It's not like if said this about the 360 or Nintendo that the results would be identical. Oh wait, they would.

 

[Haakmed]

I'm curious as to what it is the xbox does that holds his interest

This is a good question.

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

Until Sony starts to reach out to PC gaming, the PS3 is largely irrelevant to their business strategy.

I'm not sure how cashing in on an enormous PS3 install base can be seen as irrelevant to anyone's business strategy, let alone a peripheral maker. If Sony won't let them, that's petty and idiotic and obviously not Razer's fault. But if Razer is specifically ignoring the PS3 base because their lead "doesn't use his very much", that's laughably bad business.

I'm also not sure how Sony can "reach out to PC gaming" anymore than MS has/hasn't. Allowing PS3 controllers to be used on PC would be nice, I guess? Nah, I just don't understand what you're trying to say here.

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

Razer focuses on PC gamers.

Unless a PC gamer can use it, it is irrelevant to them. You can use an xbox controller as a PC gamer, so they make an xbox controller.

Just because you CAN doesn't mean you should. Do I see Mcdonalds open up huge oil refineries? Do I see Walmart manufacture guns and sell them to the government on defense contracts?

No, but they could. Its a huge market to "ignore."

So why doesn't Sony make guns? Why doesn't Microsoft drill for oil? Its not their main focus, so they don't. Razer is a PC gaming company, and they don't care for consoles. They have their niche, and they know what service they fulfill.

Not everyone should diversify to everything or else you run into a slippery slope argument. Even Sony, apple, and Microsoft know their place.

I don't see microsoft selling clothes, food, or pills. Even though the install base for those items are way bigger than consoles.

Maybe I'm misreading the original post, but it looks like Razer does make accessories for Xbox 360. If that's the case, ignoring a virtually equivalent market, one that you could tap with minimal changes to your product line, seems illogical. The justification used for doing so only fuels such a contention.

If they were exclusively PC, I'd never suggest they absolutely should cater to consoles as well. But they're already selling on a console, so why not sell on both of them? If the only rational is "we don't feel like it", so be it. But that's not a very good reason.

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

Did you even see their catalog?

Xbox: 6 items. only one is a controller. The others are an adapter, 3 headsets (same ones they sell for PC), and an arcade slab. So only 5. Only 1 if you count actual controllers and not headsets.

The only reason they sell xbox controllers is for PC gamers. Everything that isn't the audio adapter on that page works on PC, in fact when you look at the xbox controller they keep talking about PC gaming.

http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-controllers/

The only thing where they actually talk about consoles, is the audio adapter.

PC: 23 items. all varied.

They sure as hell don't focus on consoles in any meaningful extent. Everything they have is PC centric. The only thing that isn't PC centric is a tiny cable for their headsets.

Oh. What a poorly written article. I withdraw my criticism completely.

 

[J Tyran]

except my implication is that the PS3 has superior, award winning exclusives vs. the 360's inferior, mediocre exclusives.

According to you maybe, if someone doesn't care about those exclusives they wont assign the same value to them that you do. Besides if "award winning" exclusives matter so much why bother with Sony? Nintendo are the ones that have the most and highest rated and selling exclusives of all time.

Huh. Must be why I've had every Nintendo console since the SNES in addition to my Sony platforms.

Well if thats what you like thats what you like, but why have the Sony devices at all then? If the exclusives are the be all and end all why get anything else?

Because my PC, Playstation-branded products, and Nintendo-branded products give me all the games I could ever want!

My PS3, PS Vita, Xbox 360, PC, Tablets and the 3DS give me all the games I could ever want. Well except the 3DS, its convinced me not to bother with any more Nintendo products. Nintendo just seem to be doing a cuter version of Call of Duty and making the same games over and over.

 

[cerebus23]

I, for one, am not exactly thrilled with Razer as a game peripheral maker, but largely due to the fact that they've discontinued left-handed (or rather, ambidextrous) products without replacing them with new ones that were equally so.

I was quite fond of my Tarantula keyboard, though Razer's tech-support was useless. I eventually had to hack it to make it work with my play style.

Eventually, the keyboard failed, and Razer's inability to provide an equivalent, or even a lesser keyboard at a reasonable price made me turn away. Currently, I have a Corsair K60 which serves, and look forward to upgrading to the Logitech G710 Plus when I have disposable income. Logitech's customer service is actually reasonable.

TLR: Fuck Razer. Go with Logitech. They'll treat you better.

238U

i thought i was the only lefty in the world liked neutral mice vs handed ones, lefties unite! maybe we cn get them to go back and remake the mice we like.

 

[5mj7R7yf4Dwr3gdZyyu9PeGNwYjlNrjzuh3iTXQG]

i thought i was the only lefty in the world liked neutral mice vs handed ones, lefties unite! maybe we cn get them to go back and remake the mice we like.

The problem is that there's only like one of us in eight humans, and many of them have resigned themselves to the right-handed user configuration, which is a shame since the number-pad (I find) is a much better keyboard layout for gaming than the WASD. Granted it means I have to customize my keys every time, sometimes by force.

For my laptop I use the Logitech Anywhere Mouse, which is really damn good (also on sale at Costco for half list: ~$35 here in California) but for gaming I usually use trackballs. My home config, I use the Kensington Expert Mouse (Their optical one -- NOT the slim-blade which integrates the scroll wheel by making you twist the ball) and for mobile the Orbit with Scroll Wheel (contrast: the Orbit, which doesn't feature the scroll wheel).

Alas, these balls don't feature all five buttons, which I'll personally use in a game if they're available. If someone bothered to make a good ambidextrous five-button + scroll optical LASER trackball, I'd be all over that like costumes on Hallowe'en.

238U

EDIT: my hallmark signature.

 

[Lightknight]

Eh, he just doesn't get ps3 gamer's money. There's no moral imperative for him to produce hardware for them so I don't see what the big deal is besides gawking at a poor business decision of purposefully missing opportunities.

 

[DjinnFor]

Which is it? He either has little to do with the direction and design of his products or hes such a rampant fanboy that he cuts his companies nose off to spite its face? Thats the most obvious one.

I would say false dichotomy but the options you presented are a strawman anyways and don't even remotely represent anything I said. Do you know what the phrase "strategic direction" means, and how it's different from product design?

One of the other fallacies here is that choosing to play most multiplatform titles on one platform or the other makes someone a fanboy, can you explain this?

It's called ascribing a motive based on available evidence. Available evidence is: he's slagging on Sony products and using that as a pretext to justify why he's not going to expand to that market. My interpretation of such evidence is: either he's retarded for not jumping at the opportunity to make free money or Microsoft is paying him off. I find the former is harder to believe simply because he's a CEO.

Surely a fanboy/fangirl wouldn't buy a console from anyone apart from their chosen champion?

1. Hyperbole. I was using it.
2. How do we even know he has a PS3? Slagging the PS3 without pretending like you own one and thus have personal, first-hand experience would obviously be a PR nightmare. His testimony in that regard is entirely self-serving. Since I've already established that he's either retarded or a liar and I don't like the "assume he's retarded" approach, I'm going with liar.

Most of them are like you and are pretty bitter about competitors, dont try to deny it getting all /sadface because a CEO of a company that makes crappy peripherals likes the other platform is exactly the kind of behavior you see from fanboys.

I'm more /facepalming at the apparent stupidity of his statement and trying to figure out whether it's actual stupidity or just some hidden motive.

Maybe more of their friends own one platform or the other, maybe the online stores or retail boxes are cheaper or maybe because they like a particular service.

Let's never use a product and slag it publicly just because a few more of my friends use its competitors product. Okay.

If he has friends who play both consoles wouldn't he be playing both consoles?

There are any number of reasons apart from problems with the console itself

He could have enumerated those reasons, instead he chose to leave it to ones imagination.

"I don't use this product and in fact I have no use for it whatsoever; instead I use a competitors product" is a pretty clear cut indication of intent. Unless you qualify that statement in any way it's going to be obvious what the resulting impression will be.

Presumably, he was vague because wanted to slag the console whilst having plausible deniability in case of a backlash. Either that or he doesn't employ any kind of marketing department to tell him how to word his statements so that he doesn't create the perception that he's slagging a product. Again, the choice is between intention or idiocy.

You can either continue "reading between the lines" or actually read what he said, taking what he says at face value makes sense.

No, it really doesn't. To reiterate, strategic direction and product design are two completely different jobs. Unless by "CEO" he means "legal title I granted myself when I incorporated my successful startup for tax advantages" (I don't know, I haven't checked), in which case as the owner he can do whatever the fuck job he wants, I suppose.

Finally you should drop the "reading between the lines" shtick, either accept it as wrong or admit its code for "making stuff up to suit my perceptions".

Given that you've failed to comprehend the distinction between strategic direction and product design, I suggest you take my word for it that I know a little more about how to word a press release to create a particular impression than you do.

 

[J Tyran]

rambling splooge snipped for brain cells

Firstly I would like to see your evidence, you do not have any. I will not even give it the credit of calling it speculation because you have simply resorted to making stuff up, you have apparently even decided he doesn't actually own a PS3 so he telling lies when he said he liked Infamous and played it for weeks in the past.

The guy said he likes the exclusives and plays them, he also said he prefers his company to make products he wants as a gamer himself. I see no "evidence" to the contrary, or any reason at all not to take him at face value. As for being paid off by Microsoft... You do know Xbox products are tiny portion of their lineup right?

As for accusing me of "not comprehending" this or that I can only reply to what you are posting, frankly you are not making much clear so I have little to go on. Well no, you are making it very clear that it makes you suffer physical pain that some CEO likes his Xbox a bit more than he likes his PS3.