Reasonable Comics For Reasonable People

PapstJL4U

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This is some serious performance art here. This comic and the last comic + both fan reaction is a great art peace in itself by Grey Avantcarter.
 

LordLundar

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Yeah, I'm done with the comic. If I thought it was entertaining to be preached at I would watch an evangelist channel.
 

Ishal

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Hehe, love it.

But it would be a shame for all the nastiness to go away, the Phil Fish threads were so entertaining.
 
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I thought the last one was a tad mean, but this was just damn funny.

People get pretty worked up over some pretty petty stuff.

Bravo Grey, bravo.
 

Legion

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anthony87 said:
Abomination said:
I suppose if being aggressive upsets people it's always an option to be passive aggressive?
Hell just look at these very forums. People here have made passive agressiveness an artform.

A terrible terrible artform.
That is the downside to restricting what people can say to one another really. Some will ignore it, act nastily and get hit with the banhammer. Many will simply not post and a few will learn to post nicely. Then a whole bunch of people will try and find a way to insult one another without getting banned for it.

After all, making rules so people cannot be rude isn't going to change peoples personalities. it just prevents them from showing it.

OT: I liked this one, although I do find it kind of wrong that the rules against making accusations of trolling are being enforced in the comments for this comic when the comic is quite often the definition of it.

Grey Carter said:
A mild comic that won't hurt your tum tum.
This after all, cannot be called anything else.

Note: I am not offended in the slightest, I don't mind it (watching peoples reactions is often just as funny as the comic), just the fact that it cannot be called out for what it is.
 

Lieju

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I read this comic by using my eyes.

It had words and pictures in it, some of the pictures represented people.
 

Amir Kondori

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Krantos said:
Mel Brooks once said: ([a href="http://dailytrojan.com/2009/10/20/entertainer-mel-brooks-discusses-his-blazing-career/"]Here[/a])

"You have to love {what} you parody."

That, I think is the major failing of Critical Miss, and why their "Parody" comics draw so much heat. There doesn't seem to be much Love from Grey and Carter. Most of their topical comics come across more as mean spirited and derisive. I'd say it's more [a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/satire"]Satire[/a].

You will never make friends with Satire. It is, by definition ridicule.

If all you're looking for is page views and traffic, I'd say your technique is perfect. Inflammatory statements usually are for that.

However, if you're trying to promote honest discussion and progress... I don't think Ridicule and derision ever lead to anything constructive happening. At least not on the internet.
I really don't think they are super concerned with promoting "honest discussion and progress". I think they are primarily concerned with putting out a popular comic.
 

kenu12345

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Lord Krunk said:
Silent Protagonist said:
I like to pretend this comic is a call for people to be more level-headed and reasonable when discussing issues, especially in the relatively trivial sphere of gaming. I know it's really a passive aggressive and snarky response to all the people who dared to be insulted and upset by their previous comic and the massive flaming thread that resulted from it, but I like to pretend it could be something more.

Part of what was frustrating about the "White Guy Defense force" comic is that such aggressive, dismissive, and insulting caricatures of different viewpoints or opinions like the ones found in that comic are already far too common in these discussions. They are a major part of why so many discussions devolve into pointless flame wars like the thread on last weeks comic. We need far more encouragement of the attitude of mutual respect that can bring forth actual discussion and growth found and subsequently mocked in this weeks comic.

This comic would have been brilliant if it wasn't for the subtext of "Oh well, people got insulted so I guess we won't try to do anything funny ever again." It's a shame.
Agreed. I just rolled my eyes at the last comic and moved on without responding, because I knew they were just trolling for views. This comic would have been clever if the last one was funny, and not agonizing for anyone other than manginas to read.

Grey, if you are reading this, enough webcomic artists have turned the medium into a joke by pulling this crap. I know you're better than this. The viewership might be down, but please have some integrity. Please don't jump the shark, if you haven't already.

(inb4 the next comic mocking that last statement)

That's all I really have to say.
Well I believe the last comic was pretty good but eh. Hit or miss. If you took the wrong thing from it you took the wrong thing from it nothing more to say about it
 

AkaDad

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As someone who's been producing and manufacturing strawmen for years, I'm totally offended.
 

Lord Krunk

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Amir Kondori said:
Krantos said:
Mel Brooks once said: ([a href="http://dailytrojan.com/2009/10/20/entertainer-mel-brooks-discusses-his-blazing-career/"]Here[/a])

"You have to love {what} you parody."

That, I think is the major failing of Critical Miss, and why their "Parody" comics draw so much heat. There doesn't seem to be much Love from Grey and Carter. Most of their topical comics come across more as mean spirited and derisive. I'd say it's more [a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/satire"]Satire[/a].

You will never make friends with Satire. It is, by definition ridicule.

If all you're looking for is page views and traffic, I'd say your technique is perfect. Inflammatory statements usually are for that.

However, if you're trying to promote honest discussion and progress... I don't think Ridicule and derision ever lead to anything constructive happening. At least not on the internet.
I really don't think they are super concerned with promoting "honest discussion and progress". I think they are primarily concerned with putting out a popular comic.
The point is that the best referential humour (in this case, satire and parody) are borne from affection. Humour borne from anything else, in the rare event that it is funny, will date quickly. In this case, the humour was borne from intentional controversy (better known as 'trolling') and a desire to draw out a jab at an easy target. Example: I don't think you're going to see any 'blackface' pantomimes any time in the near future, when a century or two ago they were all the rage. This comic is running on the same brand of humour, but directing it at one of our generation's easy targets instead.

Mel Brooks made two movies about a Nazi musical, while being Jewish - as tongue in cheek as it was, it never pointed any fingers and came out all the stronger for it. That's what his quote meant.

Hope that clears things up.
 

Alex Diniz

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Hello there, part of the people who "by inaction let a vocal minority speak in my name" here.

I don't "let" anyone speak in my name, because it implies I can stop people from around the world from saying stupid crap. I can't, you can't, no-one can. The best way to deal with them is to ignore their comments, just let it go, stop giving them attention, it might sound crazy but it's not a issue worth stressing over.

People who play videogames already are a very small portion of the world'd population, those who can even be arsed to read gaming websites even smaller, and those who comment are smaller even and inside this tiny, insignificant group of people there's an even smaller group who'll say stupid shit. And you're giving those people the spotlight on your webcomic and your news site.
 

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shephardjhon said:
You know you don't actually have to be mean and offensive to do comedy. Look at XKCD, they have been in business a lot longer than you and are still good and not offensive as far as I know.
XKCD is highly offensive.
 

anthony87

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dubious_wolf said:
shephardjhon said:
You know you don't actually have to be mean and offensive to do comedy. Look at XKCD, they have been in business a lot longer than you and are still good and not offensive as far as I know.
XKCD is highly offensive.
I find your statement about XKCD being offensive to be offensive.

 

RJ Dalton

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Oh, come on. You know strawmen will always have jobs as long as CNN and Fox News exist.
 

Shingro

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Only two far extremes yup.
There's no way to exist otherwise.
If you're not in for as extreme as it gets this is the only possible other way it can go.
If you're against these laws you hate america.

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