That is the downside to restricting what people can say to one another really. Some will ignore it, act nastily and get hit with the banhammer. Many will simply not post and a few will learn to post nicely. Then a whole bunch of people will try and find a way to insult one another without getting banned for it.anthony87 said:Hell just look at these very forums. People here have made passive agressiveness an artform.Abomination said:I suppose if being aggressive upsets people it's always an option to be passive aggressive?
A terrible terrible artform.
This after all, cannot be called anything else.Grey Carter said:A mild comic that won't hurt your tum tum.
I really don't think they are super concerned with promoting "honest discussion and progress". I think they are primarily concerned with putting out a popular comic.Krantos said:Mel Brooks once said: ([a href="http://dailytrojan.com/2009/10/20/entertainer-mel-brooks-discusses-his-blazing-career/"]Here[/a])
"You have to love {what} you parody."
That, I think is the major failing of Critical Miss, and why their "Parody" comics draw so much heat. There doesn't seem to be much Love from Grey and Carter. Most of their topical comics come across more as mean spirited and derisive. I'd say it's more [a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/satire"]Satire[/a].
You will never make friends with Satire. It is, by definition ridicule.
If all you're looking for is page views and traffic, I'd say your technique is perfect. Inflammatory statements usually are for that.
However, if you're trying to promote honest discussion and progress... I don't think Ridicule and derision ever lead to anything constructive happening. At least not on the internet.
Well I believe the last comic was pretty good but eh. Hit or miss. If you took the wrong thing from it you took the wrong thing from it nothing more to say about itLord Krunk said:Agreed. I just rolled my eyes at the last comic and moved on without responding, because I knew they were just trolling for views. This comic would have been clever if the last one was funny, and not agonizing for anyone other than manginas to read.Silent Protagonist said:I like to pretend this comic is a call for people to be more level-headed and reasonable when discussing issues, especially in the relatively trivial sphere of gaming. I know it's really a passive aggressive and snarky response to all the people who dared to be insulted and upset by their previous comic and the massive flaming thread that resulted from it, but I like to pretend it could be something more.
Part of what was frustrating about the "White Guy Defense force" comic is that such aggressive, dismissive, and insulting caricatures of different viewpoints or opinions like the ones found in that comic are already far too common in these discussions. They are a major part of why so many discussions devolve into pointless flame wars like the thread on last weeks comic. We need far more encouragement of the attitude of mutual respect that can bring forth actual discussion and growth found and subsequently mocked in this weeks comic.
This comic would have been brilliant if it wasn't for the subtext of "Oh well, people got insulted so I guess we won't try to do anything funny ever again." It's a shame.
Grey, if you are reading this, enough webcomic artists have turned the medium into a joke by pulling this crap. I know you're better than this. The viewership might be down, but please have some integrity. Please don't jump the shark, if you haven't already.
(inb4 the next comic mocking that last statement)
That's all I really have to say.
The point is that the best referential humour (in this case, satire and parody) are borne from affection. Humour borne from anything else, in the rare event that it is funny, will date quickly. In this case, the humour was borne from intentional controversy (better known as 'trolling') and a desire to draw out a jab at an easy target. Example: I don't think you're going to see any 'blackface' pantomimes any time in the near future, when a century or two ago they were all the rage. This comic is running on the same brand of humour, but directing it at one of our generation's easy targets instead.Amir Kondori said:I really don't think they are super concerned with promoting "honest discussion and progress". I think they are primarily concerned with putting out a popular comic.Krantos said:Mel Brooks once said: ([a href="http://dailytrojan.com/2009/10/20/entertainer-mel-brooks-discusses-his-blazing-career/"]Here[/a])
"You have to love {what} you parody."
That, I think is the major failing of Critical Miss, and why their "Parody" comics draw so much heat. There doesn't seem to be much Love from Grey and Carter. Most of their topical comics come across more as mean spirited and derisive. I'd say it's more [a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/satire"]Satire[/a].
You will never make friends with Satire. It is, by definition ridicule.
If all you're looking for is page views and traffic, I'd say your technique is perfect. Inflammatory statements usually are for that.
However, if you're trying to promote honest discussion and progress... I don't think Ridicule and derision ever lead to anything constructive happening. At least not on the internet.
XKCD is highly offensive.shephardjhon said:You know you don't actually have to be mean and offensive to do comedy. Look at XKCD, they have been in business a lot longer than you and are still good and not offensive as far as I know.
I find your statement about XKCD being offensive to be offensive.dubious_wolf said:XKCD is highly offensive.shephardjhon said:You know you don't actually have to be mean and offensive to do comedy. Look at XKCD, they have been in business a lot longer than you and are still good and not offensive as far as I know.