Reclaim Your Game Clarifies Dragon Age 2 SecuROM Report

gimmly22

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CrazyCapnMorgan said:
Just when faith in gaming companies couldn't get any lower...
EA and other companies have tried to control their property since the internet allowed sharing of product keys.

Therumancer said:
Honestly, I think legislaters need to do an about face here and simply ban DRM in general as the situation is getting ridiculous overall.
I wish. Unfortunately, this is the same government that believes that parents are not the ones who should dictate and control what their kids watch, eat and play.

The electronic gaming industry has a good lobby crowd, so DRM, SecuROM and other controls will be in place for a long time. Add to that the copyright laws max out at 50 years.
 

Mikeyfell

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This is exactly why I prefer console gaming over PC gaming.
A shit ton less hassle
 

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Irridium said:
Actually, while the game itself was out a while before release, there was no crack for it until it came out, which means it couldn't be played until then. So, in this case, the DRM kinda did it's job.

EDIT- I do, however, agree that DRM should just dissapear. Would make the world such a nice place...
 

Nesrie

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I don't care if it's stripped down or a piece of Securom. This industry is awful in the way they inform and treat customres. I am like a couple of posts mentioned above; it's time to legislate a rogue industry.
 

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The Random One said:
Man, this shit keeps popping up about Dragon Age 2. Did someone on the dev team push a gypsy lady on the mud or something?
That is what i want to know. So much baggage on dragon age 2 already and now this.


Although they should have let people know in someway before the game was launched.
 

LastDarkness

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Im growing more and more entertained by the day with all these reports on Dragon Age 2 and the results of the cognative dissonece that follows.

Also wouldnt said DRM as was implimented only effect a end user if they had a pirated copy of the game before its release date? As was stated at least. I dont follow the logic chain on this one.
 

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FarleShadow said:
Proof that gamers are, by and large, a completely unpleasable bunch.

"Oooh, you mean its got a tiny bit of SecuROM on it that stops us playing it before we're supposed to? LYNCH THEM ALL FOR BEING EVIL AND LYING."
It phones home every few days to make sure the game hasn't mysteriously become pirated. This is the worst form of Securom that actually created this ****storm in the first place.
 

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Rack said:
FarleShadow said:
Proof that gamers are, by and large, a completely unpleasable bunch.

"Oooh, you mean its got a tiny bit of SecuROM on it that stops us playing it before we're supposed to? LYNCH THEM ALL FOR BEING EVIL AND LYING."
It phones home every few days to make sure the game hasn't mysteriously become pirated. This is the worst form of Securom that actually created this ****storm in the first place.
Did you even read the article? That's not what the "SecuROM" bit does at all. Basically this site got their panties all in a bunch because Bioware took a minor little feature out of SecuROM that just checks your computer's date and time to see if the game has even been released yet. All the really annoying DRM is completely unrelated to SecuROM. As such, this whole damn thing manages to completely miss the point.
 

JonnWood

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Maraveno said:
I swear to god, the game was cracked before it was even officially released, I call bullshit swapping on this site

seriously? they're frothing at the lips over traces of securom/drm on a game that was allready being played by pirats before the release date....

Sad piece of work these people are
I love how people's response to DRM is just to pirate the game anyway. Yes, try and convince companies to stop intrusive anti-piracy measures by pirating. That makes perfect sense.
 

Twilight_guy

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It'd be nice if companies specified in full detail there DRM. Of course with the antagonism that gamers display at the notion of companies displaying a basic want to protect their games it would be shooting themselves in the foot. So long as having DRM is a hanging offense for gamers companies aren't going to post what DRM they have and will do everything to hand-wave away the existence of DRM. Yes, that's right gamers, I'm calling you out on causing this problem in the first place!
 

DTWolfwood

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this only affects disc-base version right? if so whew.

if not, burn in the flames of hell EA! D:<
 

Delusibeta

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DTWolfwood said:
this only affects disc-base version right? if so whew.

if not, burn in the flames of hell EA! D:<
It affects all versions that wasn't provided via Steam, AFAIK.
 
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Grey_Focks said:
Irridium said:
Actually, while the game itself was out a while before release, there was no crack for it until it came out, which means it couldn't be played until then. So, in this case, the DRM kinda did it's job.

EDIT- I do, however, agree that DRM should just dissapear. Would make the world such a nice place...
But... pirates still got it, your saying all they had to do is wait? Thats it?

Please tell me I'm not the only one who see's how stupid that is.

bahumat42 said:
I'm just going to stop you there
"pisses of actualy customers"
WHO? have you seen ONE thread mention this. If this hadn't been an article NOBODY WOULD HAVE KNOWN so how does it actually effect anyone. Get off your anti drm horse ffs.
No. I will not get off my anti-drm high horse god dammit. DRM is a cancer upon this industry and is doing far more harm than good. Pirates never have to deal with it, and it only affects paying customers. And the paying consumers it affects the worst are people with less-than-great connections. Which are a small amount of people and those least likely to fucking pirate. Oh, but they're just a "small group" so that makes it ok to fuck them over I guess.

Nobody complains about it because it seems nobody seems to care that publishers are treating them like pirates. Which is really fucking sad.
 
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bahumat42 said:
but nobody had to deal with it. Search high and low on the internet and you will not find one. Its like complaining your car radio doesn't work when your keys not in it, its not effecting anybody. Whilst some drm may be restrictive and annoying. Moaning about something that hurts nobody is a waste of your time and energy.
I don't give a damn. I hate being treated like a pirate and I will say so every time I get the chance. I know that DA2's DRM isn't the worst, but its still SecuROM, which is the second worst DRM for customers right behind Ubisoft's "always online" DRM scheme.

And yes people had to deal with it. Anybody who bought the game on the PC at the midnight release had to go home, and watch as their game went all "I can't let you play that game until 3AM" on them. I should know, 3 of my friends called me at 12:30 in the fucking morning to ask about it.
 
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bahumat42 said:
MY GOD
they had to wait 3 hours THE INSANITY
HOW DID THEY SURVIVE
call in the army these evil mofos need to die!!!

ok sarcasm enough now? Its people like you who make us look bad as a medium, this whole attitude as if we deserve something more so lets have a big hissy fit.
Seriously you people make mountains out of molehills. I have more interesting things to do than argue with somebody of the mindset "ALL OF THIS IS WRONG". Have a nice day.
So wanting to be treated like a person instead of a potential pirate is wrong? Wanting companies to stop punishing paying customers with erroneous DRM while pirates don't have to deal with any of this is wrong?

I'm not unreasonable. I use Steam, which is currently the only DRM that actually gives people reasons to use it.

Its people like you that make the rest of us look like apathetic people who don't care how much companies screw us over. People with the mindset of "oh, its not bad for me, so therefore anyone else who has a strong opinion of it is just throwing a big hissy fit". Its people like you that give companies the idea that customers don't care that they're being treated like pirates.
 

cynicalsaint1

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This is ridiculous. Got to love all the knee-jerk reactions here.

There isn't any SecuROM in DA2, the Release Date Check just leaves a couple files in your temp directory, which can be deleted without any adverse effect. What they probably are is just a couple basic software libraries used both in Sony DADC SecuROM and their Release Date check product.

For example say you write a piece of code that connects to a server and pulls back some information - now you have two products that connect to servers and pull information, instead of rewriting that code you just put the functions into a software library which can be used in both products, saves time on development.

This happens all the time with software development, hell the system I work on calls into Internet Explorer for a lot of its UI functionality. Doesn't mean our product is Internet Explorer.

Also we're talking about a couple of files in your temp directory, you can delete them yourself. Last I checked SecuROM didn't allow you that.

Seriously DA2 has relatively light and fair DRM scheme and people are still getting pissed off about it.