Reclaim Your Game Clarifies Dragon Age 2 SecuROM Report

[IdiotHeart]

I had to deal with this personally, and it was annoying rather than anything else.

Barring whether it is true SecuROM or not - which is basically just a petty nit-picking - the prevention of customers (who in most cases made some form of concerted effort to get it asap) of using a legally purchased product is just bad business practice.

Yeah, I fully support the prevention of game piracy, but surely there is a better method to deal with day zero theft? Individual codes? Not selling the product before the actual release or likewise setting the release clock properly? When you get a game, you want to play it - preventing that makes it just another piece of plastic. It may have just been the time difference down here on the tip of Africa that exasperated the wait, but sitting for many an hour (after a year watching development) to use something specifically bought early is kind of redundant and highly bitter tasting. Besides that, what is your first though when something like this blocks you? Get around it in any way possible. Crap like this promotes frustration and subsequently illicit maneuvers.

It may have been a couple of hours, but a killjoy like that leaves a dent and a rather dim view of the company. Let it be know such methods are in place, or modify them to promote legal access. Plain and simple. After all, is it so much to ask to be treated like consumers rather than thieving bastards?

 

[Srdjan Tanaskovic]

Question


what's wrong with SecuROM ? Heck it allows me to play games without using the disc

 

[yoyo13rom]

Fuck it BioWare! I bet good money one you this March Mayhem, but nooo you just had to shoot yourself in the led and buy a hanging rope for us to use.
I'm utterly disappointed, why, why did you have to become the second Ubisoft jerk like developer. I really liked and admired you... but no you had to do stupid shit!

*leaves forums angry*

 

[robert022614]

Wow EA isnt looking that great lately. Its just one PR problem after another. I am surprised non of the PR people have committed suicide yet.

 

[Drejer43]

wasn't it pirated before release anyway?

 

[Gennadios]

So it has it but it doesn't do anything, or doesn't act like secuROM or what?
Thats more than a little confusing.

It wasn't, the part of SecuROM that was used was the release date checker. Basically, the game that people pre-downloaded came incrypted. SecuROM's job here was to keep in contact with home base and only decrypt the files (make the game playable) when it was officially released. Didn't do anything after that.

I swear to god, the game was cracked before it was even officially released, I call bullshit swapping on this site

seriously? they're frothing at the lips over traces of securom/drm on a game that was allready being played by pirats before the release date....


Sad piece of work these people are

Nope, the encrypted pre-load files were readily available, but nobody managed to crack the encryption and make it playable. SecuROM did it's job admirably.

it's easy to admit that I know it has been by default fact

did you not wonder how come people finished the game only 7 hours after it was released, the game itself being at least 15 hours if you know what to do everywhere and are playing on casual

Time zones.

Some people had a good 4 hour head start over others. I've heard that consoles had an even earlier unlock. I'm ashamed to admit it but I was one of those ppl who woke up at 4 am to play.

Also, provided the game is set to casual, 7 hours is par for the course.

 

[drunken_munki]

Sadly, legislators are on the side of the big companies. They're the ones stuffing their pockets come election day. The fact that they're not explicitly creating laws to defend bad DRM is pretty much all they will do. Plus legislation only affects one country; if they were banned in the US they'd keep using it everywhere.

Do you expect legislators to be on the side of game pirates who offer them nothing and have no legal moral or ethical leg to stand on?

Frankly I think these sites need to stop complaining about bad DRM until they can come out with an alternative that prevents piracy, like this did.

The game was out on the torrents about a week before release. This DRM hasn't done jack shit.

Exactly, all they are screwing over is the customers who PAID for the game. LOL.

 

[Eldarion]

And bioware loses even more points, what is it with them this week?

 

[Callate]

Whatever comes of this, PC gamers lose. One more incident to stack in the "Jeez, let's not bother porting to PC at all" column.

 

[SelectivelyEvil13]

MY GOD
they had to wait 3 hours THE INSANITY
HOW DID THEY SURVIVE
call in the army these evil mofos need to die!!!

ok sarcasm enough now? Its people like you who make us look bad as a medium, this whole attitude as if we deserve something more so lets have a big hissy fit.
Seriously you people make mountains out of molehills. I have more interesting things to do than argue with somebody of the mindset "ALL OF THIS IS WRONG". Have a nice day.

So wanting to be treated like a person instead of a potential pirate is wrong? Wanting companies to stop punishing paying customers with erroneous DRM while pirates don't have to deal with any of this is wrong?

I'm not unreasonable. I use Steam, which is currently the only DRM that actually gives people reasons to use it.

Its people like you that make the rest of us look like apathetic people who don't care how much companies screw us over. People with the mindset of "oh, its not bad for me, so therefore anyone else who has a strong opinion of it is just throwing a big hissy fit". Its people like you that give companies the idea that customers don't care that they're being treated like pirates.

Very well stated, Irridium. There really is no regulation or accountability for DRM, leaving the consumer as the only watchdog against companies from completely screwing over the same people giving them a reason to exist. Piracy is a problem, but so is the idea that willing customers should put up with anything thrown at them at the hands of companies as an easy solution, that rarely works, mind you.

While this particular incident may not be a massive incursion, it nevertheless brings a larger problem into the discussion. How much more "security" could eventually be implemented that, yet again, fails to address the matter of piracy adequately enough to justify its existence, let alone accosting paying customers like they are the ones who cheat the companies out of money? Consumers that merely shrug their shoulders at incessant abuse will only receive more in return.

 

[theultimateend]

MY GOD
they had to wait 3 hours THE INSANITY
HOW DID THEY SURVIVE
call in the army these evil mofos need to die!!!

ok sarcasm enough now? Its people like you who make us look bad as a medium, this whole attitude as if we deserve something more so lets have a big hissy fit.
Seriously you people make mountains out of molehills. I have more interesting things to do than argue with somebody of the mindset "ALL OF THIS IS WRONG". Have a nice day.

So wanting to be treated like a person instead of a potential pirate is wrong? Wanting companies to stop punishing paying customers with erroneous DRM while pirates don't have to deal with any of this is wrong?

I'm not unreasonable. I use Steam, which is currently the only DRM that actually gives people reasons to use it.

Its people like you that make the rest of us look like apathetic people who don't care how much companies screw us over. People with the mindset of "oh, its not bad for me, so therefore anyone else who has a strong opinion of it is just throwing a big hissy fit". Its people like you that give companies the idea that customers don't care that they're being treated like pirates.

I think his point was that you are an butthead if you bought the game and by doing so you are supporting piracy.

Because if nobody bought these games then no games with DRM would sell and then nobody would make games with DRM.

But as long as games with DRM sell, people will pirate those games.

Therefore your purchasing of the game has made piracy a problem.

I hope you are happy with yourself.

That's the only explanation that would justify anyone thinking that punishing consumers is reasonable no matter how small the punishment is.

Did I mention I'm terrible at comprehension? Figured that disclaimer is necessary. Second disclaimer is I'm being facetious and don't think you are an asshole nor that he thinks you are. Figured I should cover that too. In fact lemme change it to butthead to avoid probation. BAM! All good.

 

[Irridium]

I think his point was that you are an butthead if you bought the game and by doing so you are supporting piracy.

Because if nobody bought these games then no games with DRM would sell and then nobody would make games with DRM.

But as long as games with DRM sell, people will pirate those games.

Therefore your purchasing of the game has made piracy a problem.

I hope you are happy with yourself.

That's the only explanation that would justify anyone thinking that punishing consumers is reasonable no matter how small the punishment is.

Did I mention I'm terrible at comprehension? Figured that disclaimer is necessary. Second disclaimer is I'm being facetious and don't think you are an asshole nor that he thinks you are. Figured I should cover that too. In fact lemme change it to butthead to avoid probation. BAM! All good.

For the record, I don't care if I get called names. So yeah, whatever works for you I guess.

Second, well this is EA we're talking about. Them "getting the message" is about as likely as Duke Nukem Forever coming ou-

Them getting the message is about as likely as, well, about as likely as them getting the message.

Although I may have misunderstood you and you might have been being sarcastic. I don't really know. Its been a long day for me...

 

[theultimateend]

Although I may have misunderstood you and you might have been being sarcastic. I don't really know. Its been a long day for me...

You for sure did . I was being a complete smartass.

I too just got off work.

I thought your comments were concise and wonderful and just wanted to be a retard because I thought the point you were responding too was completely moronic. However unlike me you took the elegant way out .

 

[MorphingDragon]

BioWare have become apostates and must be dealt with by the Chantry.

 

[vato_loco]

I'll just stop by and say one thing:

Fuck EA.

Ok, I'll elaborate a little.

It's that fucked up corporate vision of customers being their bitches that make them so hard to like in the first place. Activision, I'm looking at you as well.

See, I know that companies have to make profits. I know that this is capitalism, and I know that customers are just a wallet. But that doesn't give any company the right to be such douchebags and lie to the customer like that. Yes, lie. Omission of truth is a lie, at least in this case in particular. Consider this scenario:

"Did you kill this man?".
"I did not shoot him".
*Turns out he fucking stabbed the man*

See? Still guilty. EA's doing that.

"Did you put SecuROM in the game?".
"Nope".
*They put some other thing that works the same*

This disrespect towards the consumer is what drives me nuts. It's not like EA could exist without us, so why not show some respect, you greedy sack of fucks?!