I'd say part of it is that more people are on minimum wage and living in their parent's basements, which kills the romance.
Record high amount of young men not having..ehm you-know-what.
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I sent this to Kyle in a separate PM since I wanted to avoid derailing, but since we're here anyway... I decided to waste a chunk of time (started with 30 minutes, extended to an hour later on), and I have no idea where the claim made in the noted article above came from.Abomination said:
I found the exact same one during my first google sweep, but if you start digging into those links attached to declarative statements, they just go to news stories that don't really cite anything. So I dusted off the old wikipedia and fired up the uni accounts to have a deeper look. All told I found basically one sentence in one wikipedia article attributing the use of globalism as an antisemetic word to Henry Ford and his pamphlets, which I searched and could not really find reference to (aside from his general discussion about how Jewish people are showing up on the word stage and his strong feelings about that). The extra time noted above was from me attempting to dig up something roughly related in the humanities section of the uni library - because of the way those are titled and the abstracts are written it can be very hard to dig up articles about topics this specific - but I couldn't find anything. That's not to say it doesn't exist, but I'm not doing a lit review of claims the US news has made if I can't even get a straight answer out of wikipedia.
Yes, I would never show cultural bigotry towards Jews/Israelis.Kyle Gaddo said:
Nobody in this thread mentioned them, even in passing, until your reminder of this policy.
It is used as a dog-whistle to mean some Jewish conspiracy or other, and has been for a while. Yeah, it doesn't make sense, but then, racist conspiracy rubbish.Abomination said:
OTOH, it's not solely used as a racist dog-whistle. Well, most dog-whistle aren't, otherwise they wouldn'r work, but lots of people do use it to legitimately mean an aspect the global economic and financial situation.
I was just using it to refer to the state of communication and social interaction we have these days compared to the previous generation.Thaluikhain said:
People find partners across the globe at a significantly higher rate during this generation than any other time in history.
The swastika has been a positive religious symbol for Native American tribes for thousands of years, all it took was for Nazi's to adopt it to taint it's meaning forever. That pretty much applies here as well.Thaluikhain said:
Poor people still have sex. Living with parents never really stopped teenagers from having sex, but I think depression induced by the stress from the pressure from current society may play more of a role in sexual activity than just economic issues on their own.Thaluikhain said:
I think one could reasonably say that the significant majority of people use it in the global economic and financial situation.Thaluikhain said:
Semites have nothing to do with it.
Right, but... that was a genuine political organisation that had a literal uniform applied in a military and conquest manner. The only relationship the two scenarios have is that Semites were targeted. The SCALE and organisation between the two scenarios is galaxies apart.Lil devils x said:
Well, kind of, although I don't know if you're using that quite right, and its not what those news articles were generally referring to. That said, as I meantioned in my pm, its your prerogative how you want to identify hate speach. All I ask is you give us non americans a glossary, because I'm not gonna start watching US news just to keep track of new slurs as they're identified/developed in your country.Kyle Gaddo said:
I don't think that is the case, this is more widespread rhetoric in the US than you may realize, not only from jerks like Alex Jones, but the GOP itself has spread this BS here. We literally have US congressmen sending this crap out ranting about Soros and the New world order BS in emails to constituents. The scale and organization in the US is much larger than you seem to understand.Abomination said:
I really should start keeping the emails Ted Cruz and jeb Hensarling have sent me. They are pretty nuts.
https://www.texasobserver.org/greg-abbott-ted-cruz-dan-patricks-obsession-george-soros-weird-kind-dangerous/
I can understand that some people might misuse language in that way... but that doesn't mean that every utterance of the word is anti-Semitic. It's like someone owning a Swastika adorned Buddha, and another person with a red armband, white circle, and black Swastika goosestepping down the street with an arm extended, palm down.Lil devils x said:
One hopes an individual can determine the difference between the two and how the existence of one does not mean the other is also guilty by association - especially when the innocent party existed before the offending.
Native American tribes, including my own, voluntarily chose to stop publicly using the Swastika due to how it was perceived out of respect for others because not causing other's distress is more important than a desire to use a certain word or symbol. Right now, when we have a rise in racist extremism, it would be naive to think that people can always tell the difference when so much of the Rhetoric promoting these things has been normalized. Some may see it as an overreaction to refrain from using words or symbols, but in reality it has been the under reaction that has caused the extremism to become as widespread and normalized as it has been. When we now have the President of one of the most powerful nations in the world saying racist Nazis marching in the streets with torches are "very fine people" and hate crimes increasing 226% in counties where the President holds rallies, it has become apparent this was ignored for far too long and allowed to get way out of hand. We have to start addressing the actual rhetoric and showing it for what it is or this will only get worse. People ignoring it and normalizing it are what allowed this to happen.Abomination said:
I am not sure what exactly would be effective at curbing this, but doing nothing has obviously not worked.
Apparently that's the issue Japan is having(I'd need to dig up the source again) where women aren't interested in dudes who don't have proper careers, which are becoming harder and harder to get into in Japan.Thaluikhain said:
I wouldn't be surprised if something similar weren't at play here, at least partially.
Globalism may have started as being antisemitic but now that there's an issue about globalization and automation I think it's safe to say most people who use it are either unaware of or at the very least don't mean to include antisemitism in their point. They're talking about stuff like companies shipping jobs off to poorer countries so that they can pay the workers low wages and stuff like that.
It comes off as a disingenuous way to deflect and protect the status quo to liken that type of concern in any way at all with antisemitism. If you're so worried about that, you wanna police terms like "the women's march" much more strictly than "globalism", but something tells me that's not happening any time soon. (and imo, policing either thing is very silly, but if I had to police one, that'd be the one)
It comes off as a disingenuous way to deflect and protect the status quo to liken that type of concern in any way at all with antisemitism. If you're so worried about that, you wanna police terms like "the women's march" much more strictly than "globalism", but something tells me that's not happening any time soon. (and imo, policing either thing is very silly, but if I had to police one, that'd be the one)