The world is at its most peaceful now, more than ever, if you discount the recent termoils in africa and asia with the rebellions, wich are more or less settling down. So, whats this about relative peace? We are, in relation to the history ofthe world, at its most peaceful.samsonguy920 said:
Red Cross Investigating Virtual War Crimes
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I found this quite compelling to debate in games (speceally warfare games). We see too much violence, video game soldiers take war like a fun adventure. They murder 200 people and not only stay ok with it, most of the time using ilegal tatics or sooo extreme that not even the military would use. Example, shooting directly with a .50 cal to infantry.
I can understand encouraging [i/] developers to not show the good guys (or the protagonist) doing things that violate the Geneva convention, since it gives people a bad impression of what the rules of engagement are, but that logic doesn't apply in any form to multiplayer games or situations that show a clearly bad guy doing something (even if you are playing as this bad guy).
It wouldn't be too realistic though, since real life has, as the other poster said, a crap ton of PUBLIC violations alone that go absolutely unpunished (I can cite a few if you'd like), and there are definitely many violations that are top-secret going on, being done by special government forces (you know, like the ones in Black Ops).Razada said:
Modern war games reflect real life pretty well, regarding IHL, all things considered.
Does the Red Cross not know games have a reset button and that pushing it will mean the so-called war crimes are erased?
Southpark did quite an entertaining 3-parter involving the War on Imagination. Poor, poor Kurt Russel.duchaked said:
Sorry, have you ever seen Commando? Die Hard? Literally any action film from the 80's?brazuca said:
It's exaggeration for the sake of entertainment; people play these games for the same reasons they watch the films: escapism.
Anyone who see's this stuff and then goes mental with a gun had serious problems well before they started playing games.
Oh, and if you think the military is overzealous in CoD, wait til you see what the guy from Dead Space does with the tools that were only sanctioned for engineering purposes.
Hey, you have all been trolled by the red cross, just like you were by PETA!
For real though, who cares what they think in regards to things they have no scope of power over. And, I can't really recall a game where you were playing the bad guys and shooting wounded, downed soldiers.
For real though, who cares what they think in regards to things they have no scope of power over. And, I can't really recall a game where you were playing the bad guys and shooting wounded, downed soldiers.
I wiped out the natives in North America in Empire Total War last night, did not violate the geneva convention as it didn't exist at the time. Red Cross, come at me bro!
Sadly, the Times has moved to a freaking payed site, so I can't link the 8+ different articles they had where Israel bombed, shot, or otherwise murdered not only innocent civilians in Gaza but also GODDAMNED UN PEACE WORKERS AND RED CROSS AID WORKERS. They also prevented other workers from entering areas with wounded civilians, causing the death of at least several people. I'll find other sources, but they were my primary. Source for some of those: [link]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/08/un-israel-kills-driver-on_n_156168.html[/link]Toy Master Typhus said:
There was an incident where the Israeli army ordered 100 civies into a house and then bombed it less than a day later, killing 24 of them. [link]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/4206913/Israel-bombed-Gaza-safe-house-full-off-evacuees-says-UN.html[/link]
Here's a DIFFERENT story of Israel bombing UN-owned SCHOOLS owned by civies: [link]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/07/gaza-israel-obama[/link]
An incident where the Israeli army forced at gunpoint an 11 year old child to act as a human shield in front of gunfire from Hamas. Here's the follow-up, they were convicted, but an Israeli judge essentially gave them no punishment. Three months probation and a reduced rank from Staff Sargent to Sargent: [link]http://rt.com/news/israeli-soldiers-child-free/[/link]
As stated, incidents involving shooting UN workers.
An incident where a sergeant ordered a sniper to the roof of a building to assassinate an elderly woman walking down the street despite not being even suspicious. (Found this one: [link]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1163259/Israeli-troops-admit-killed-innocent-civilians-Gaza-war.html[/link] )
Israel using white phosphorous on civilian targets, a violation of the Geneva convention: [link]http://www.vtjp.org/background/gazaweapons.php[/link]
Here's the search for the Times articles, but the full text can't be read without a login. http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/sitesearch.do?querystring=human+rights+gaza&p=tto&pf=all&bl=on
The fact that an entire country can OPENLY slaughter people and get nothing but a "UN condemnation" (despite shooting UN workers) is disgusting enough, and this doesn't include any behind-the-scenes things that Israel and other countries are doing (justified or not, they violate IHL, which is the discussion here).
Let's also address the rampant animal abuse in such glorified cockfighting games as Pokemon. The GTA games, they teach cival disobedience among a host of felonious crimes. I also believe atleast some of the mushrooms Mario ate were narcotic in nature.Creamygoodness said:
So dumb.
How about ensuring that real life armed forces comply with the Geneva Convention before you start looking at how digital characters are treated in a video game.
How about ensuring that real life armed forces comply with the Geneva Convention before you start looking at how digital characters are treated in a video game.