That sums me up better than I could have done myself.Credge said:
Guess it fits my alignment too...Chaotic Neutral.
Huh. Guess it's time to go to the courthouse to re-register.
Republicans Luring Youths With Video Games
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Guess it fits my alignment too...Chaotic Neutral.
Huh. Guess it's time to go to the courthouse to re-register.
Maybe they will have a Republican funded game based on the Purity Test they want all aspiring Republicans to take?
How soon will it be before they phase out the gaming aspect once they realise it doesnt take and fall back on their traditional Republican values of being rich (old) white males?
How soon will it be before they phase out the gaming aspect once they realise it doesnt take and fall back on their traditional Republican values of being rich (old) white males?
As I mentioned above, I wasn't actually refering to the conspiracy component of the game, but you do make some good points. There's one caveat to all my comments. It's been a good six years since I've had a computer that could run DX1, so it's been a while since I played through it.blindthrall said:
I'm messing this around with the God ending, I know. But my recollection was the surveilance theme ends up tying into the concept of facilitating a dirrect democracy.
Though, as a political science student, I'd have to classify intense surveilance as an anti-Liberal position. (I don't mean conservitive, I mean opposed to the general concepts of Liberal theory that both liberals and conservitives in this country are based on.)
If you look at it like this, then the game is posing a question. If direct democracy is the epitome of Liberal theory, what means are justifable to achieve those ends.
I'd completly forgotten about this. I kinda wonder if it wasn't simply a matter of writing dialog to avoid having to generate new assets.
I'm a little fuzzy this was the bloodless coup by FEMA?
In the interest of fairness a lot of the various components of the story, including some of the crazier ones have some factual basis. MJ12 was a military investigation unit in the mid 60s. The Echalon surveilance system almost certainly existed at some point, as information related to it has been released by foreign governments.
I really do love this detail.
Durring the McCarthy era the fear was that communist sabouturs would do it. Today (and in Deus Ex) the fear is Terrorists will do it. The real irony here is the prescence the game posesses in a couple startling cases, such as the post 9/11 skyline of New York (which was actually the result of having to mirror art assets because of engine limitations.)
Back on topic, the whole manipulating the water supply has also been a very popular conspiracy theory going back to whenever they started flouridating it (I want to say in the 50s.)
To be fair, about GTA, it is a rather brutal satire of... well, everything in American culture. The left and the right both take one to the chin regularly in it. That said, I really suspect they never pick up on that, and simply hate it because the media has managed to stir up controversy with almost every release. So defending it would be poor politics.
Yeah, the MW2 thing is... ugh... I don't even know. I could go off on the influence of the Military Industrial Complex, but, really, it's just a very disturbing trend. Are we a more warlike society today than we were in 1935?
The funny thing about Bioshock is, that with the fiscal conservitive strand Objectivism should actually be fairly appealing as an ideology. That said, the fiscal conservitive strand isn't the dominant one in the Republican party today.
I'm pretty embarrassed to be conservative since all the politicians who represent conservative ideals are so detached from their own citizens' pop culture.
Hm. Another reason to hate Fox news.
God, they lie about everything, they deceive the public, they attack people who have different values and opinions to them, and now they are trying to ride video games to trick people into thinking they actually care about people.
Only two words I can say now.
Fucking bullshit.
God, they lie about everything, they deceive the public, they attack people who have different values and opinions to them, and now they are trying to ride video games to trick people into thinking they actually care about people.
Only two words I can say now.
Fucking bullshit.
As a conservative who loves him his anime and violent video games I would like to thank you for putting it in as clear and simple terms as possible.copperflyingace said:
OT: Yeah, something tells me that alot of kids aren't even going to be listening to what the speakers are saying, and if they aren't just there for the free food, then you can bet your ass that some 14-20 will destroy something because it belongs to the republicans. Thus proving once and for all the benevolence of his cause. Not that I can blame him, there's so much expensive stuff there, and it's all so deliciously destroyable...
I find it hilarious we have Republicans telling us to be tolerant after all the racist, intolerant bullshit spouted during the 2008 campaign and beyond, after all the shit stirred up that gave us the Teabaggers, after all the goddamn bullshit about "capitalism being dead", and you want us to be tolerant? Maybe the real problem is that you're in a party run by a bunch of pretentious old men who can't seem to get a grasp on the 21st century. Now I know you aren't responsible for the tone your party has been creating since the 1980s that treats anybody with a differing opinion as a traitor to the country, but if you're honestly going to tell only the opposing side to calm down, well you're just as bad as any other hypocrite. If you can't take the mocking of your party's stupid ideas then you need to grow a spine and stop whining. If you don't like it, then don't post. You're not fighting for the greater good of political justice, you're just posting on a thread on the internet.
The reason this is funny is because while it's true the great video game debate is often taken up by both sides, it's often conservatives who become the most illogical (Jack Thompson). It's made more hilarious by being sponsored by Fox News, who in addition to their Mass Effect Sex Simulator Story, have also been shown to have skewed if not completely wrong views about videogames and the people who play them. And that's it. I don't even know why anybody would be pissed off about this.
Oh right, I forgot, different opinions are bad.
The reason this is funny is because while it's true the great video game debate is often taken up by both sides, it's often conservatives who become the most illogical (Jack Thompson). It's made more hilarious by being sponsored by Fox News, who in addition to their Mass Effect Sex Simulator Story, have also been shown to have skewed if not completely wrong views about videogames and the people who play them. And that's it. I don't even know why anybody would be pissed off about this.
Oh right, I forgot, different opinions are bad.
Wii and X-Box 360
Fox News
Guitar hero, COD And Dance Revolution?
*Shiver*
And they are gonna parade those gamers as 'the l33t hardcore x-treme gamers'
God I want to vomit.
Fox News
Guitar hero, COD And Dance Revolution?
*Shiver*
And they are gonna parade those gamers as 'the l33t hardcore x-treme gamers'
God I want to vomit.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article438332.ece
http://www.gamepolitics.com/2007/12/21/hillary-clinton-tells-common-sense-media-she-would-support-video-game-legislation
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the democrats aren't any better. Even Obama jumped on the anti-violent video game bandwagon alongside Hillary Clinton. Its not just one side here. So what if the Republicans use video games? The democrats used Youtube for the presidential debates, and yet they STILL want to filter through the internet and find things that they don't totally agree with or that doesn't totally agree with their agendas.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/02/tech/gamecore/main713544.shtml
Why don't any news room contributors go after the democrats?
http://www.gamepolitics.com/2007/12/21/hillary-clinton-tells-common-sense-media-she-would-support-video-game-legislation
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the democrats aren't any better. Even Obama jumped on the anti-violent video game bandwagon alongside Hillary Clinton. Its not just one side here. So what if the Republicans use video games? The democrats used Youtube for the presidential debates, and yet they STILL want to filter through the internet and find things that they don't totally agree with or that doesn't totally agree with their agendas.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/02/tech/gamecore/main713544.shtml
Why don't any news room contributors go after the democrats?
*breeeeeen* *breeeeeeeeen* *breeeeeeeeen* god damn it! the hypocrite alarm is at code red!
but anyway, I bet you there will be a protest of people who think it's the democratic party. I would pay money for someone to come out and tell them that the republicans are using "DEM EVIL COMPUTAR MAJICS TO CARUPT TO YOUNGINS!!!111ONEONEONE". I would pay to see that.
but anyway, I bet you there will be a protest of people who think it's the democratic party. I would pay money for someone to come out and tell them that the republicans are using "DEM EVIL COMPUTAR MAJICS TO CARUPT TO YOUNGINS!!!111ONEONEONE". I would pay to see that.
oooh, republicans are hosting game nights. scary.
:gasp: If it works, the dems will take it up too, and then the green party will try it too, and eventually we'll have communist game nights! GAAAH!
Big freakn' deal. Not going to have a huge effect on people one way or the other- I mean, game night at the church didn't really make kids in my hometown more religion-oriented. Not going to increase voter turnout all that much. I mean, hell, I'm all liberal-tastic, and I'd go to these things for free food and games.
:gasp: If it works, the dems will take it up too, and then the green party will try it too, and eventually we'll have communist game nights! GAAAH!
Big freakn' deal. Not going to have a huge effect on people one way or the other- I mean, game night at the church didn't really make kids in my hometown more religion-oriented. Not going to increase voter turnout all that much. I mean, hell, I'm all liberal-tastic, and I'd go to these things for free food and games.