Republicans Luring Youths With Video Games

hvitulf

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Silk_Sk said:
I think it's the thought that counts. Not that the thought was noble either, but how exactly can they connect to today's youth? Underhanded and insincere is pretty much the definition of politics. Comparing it to Obama's campaign was deliciously ironic.
NEWSFLASH!!!!! Obama is a politician too! Just as underhanded as the rest of them, but far more charismatic than most. Personally, I'm glad we have a president that can lie again, you know, like all of them except Bush. (I really wish that we could have a politician be honest and people not hate them.)
 

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Spekter068 said:
IHateDaManSkirt said:
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Tom Goldman said:
Republicans Luring Youths With Video Games

The XPAC Lounge is reportedly equipped with Nintendo Wiis and Xbox 360s.
No PS3? Oh my God, the bafflement!

Seriously. No PS3?
I always thought the PS3 was a much more liberal console.
Hmm...

I'm a Liberal, and I have a Wii and a 360...

I have thought about getting a PS3, though, because I've gotten the R.R.O.D. four times now. Whatever happened to the good old days when you could shoot your Xbox with a twelve-gauge and it would still work with absolutely no change in performance? Now it makes grindy noises whenever I poke it.
I didn't exactly mean that, I just couldn't say "Xenophobia." because they had a Wii there.
 

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actually, now that I've had time to think about it, I think I'm with the angry conservatives in this forum.

Not ideologically necessarily, but was this really meant to lure undecideds? because from what I can see it wasn't... more of just a convention for conservatives who happen to like games, and there's nothing wrong with that.

bad spin escapist
 

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Fredrick2003 said:
This writeup made me laugh hysterically.

For some reason I laughed the hardest at "Guitar Hero, Dance Revoltuion, and Call of Duty".
That is because everyone who'd play them, already have them.
 

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God, what is this post even do...Informs me of some random crap maybe 100 people went too? Democrats and Liberals use tactics of this sort all the time. Look at ACORN they offered people some cigs to buy into their crap. This post is pretty much just a GOP flame. It's basically a troll thread to be honest.
 

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Sir John The Net Knight said:
ForgottenPr0digy said:
wait I thought republicans hated video games???
Actually, a lot of younger conservatives do enjoy that sort of thing. You know they're conservatives not bible thumping whackos.

DTWolfwood said:
The same ppl who bash videogames at every misstep or turn, using it to lure gamers into politics. My god these ppl really are EVIL.
Not really, most people here took one [small](und precisely von)[/small] unfavorable story by FOX news and decided to turn it into a rallying cry against the evil conservatives. When most conservatives probably couldn't care less and some, like myself, just flat out disagree. Don't lump us all in with the right-wing radical idiots like the conservative media watchdog groups.

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psrdirector said:
Considering how republicans lead the games are destroying our youth bandwagon, I find the hypocrisy of using games hilarious.
It's really about equal. The Family Entertainment Protection Act, for example, was introduced by Senator Hillary Clinton, and co-sponsored by Senators Joe Lieberman, Tim Johnson and Evan Bayh, all democrats.
An excellent point. It's not really wrong to think that there are some conservatives who would throw us under the bus for political gain. But don't think we don't have enemies on the left, we do.
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A good idea, not poorly, horrificaly executed.

It justs sounds like there going for there votes.

Also I can kick any Republicans ass at DDR.
Hmm, votes. Isn't that the point of conventions and public gatherings like this? To drum up support? I mean, it's rather unfair to low-blow the GOP for doing something to garner youth vote when the Dems have been doing it for years now. (Rock the Vote anyone? Don't tell me those people are trying to get you to vote for the other guys.)


Stephen Baldwin doing something like this makes perfect sense. I mean, he certainly isn't going to stand out by following his idiot brother around like a puppy and mimicking the crap that comes out of his mouth. Oh and I liked Bio-Dome. =P

I think this is a good idea for the GOP, albeit poorly executed. As I've stated I think there's a lot of silly stereotypes about conservatives that are flatly untrue. But persist because they sell to radical left-wingers and because foul-mouthed shock comics like Janeane Garafolo, who defy that their 15 minutes has long been expired, need material to stay on T.V. because they'd never go over in Branson, MO.

By the way, I'm an independent voter. Which takes away the counter-argument that I'm spewing rhetoric or talking points.

Edit: I noticed that the title of this thread is really selling it. It's almost like suggesting that the GOP is a fat, hairy child molester trying to lure a six-year old girl into his busted down 1971 Chevy Nova with a lollipop.

Seriously, I don't expect anyone here to agree with me. I imagine it might be easier to find the Holy Grail then it would be to find another moderate conservative on these forums. But, oh well.
Have to agree with what your saying with this, for some reason picking on conservatives is the hip thing to do when your on the internet(guess its sorta like saying raciest jokes when only one race is in the room). and could this have been more biased in the writing, this is about as unprofessional as it gets. And before people start bashing me I'm a Libertarian not a Republican.
 

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RJ Dalton said:
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EDIT: As an aside, when I first glanced at this story, I assumed there'd be something along the lines of a conservitive counterpart to Deus Ex, or the like. Which is, honestly something I could respect, if not enjoy. This just... I don't know, I think it broke my brain.
A conservative counterpart to Deus Ex? Is the implication that Deus Ex was liberal? Because I don't buy that at all. Deus Ex was about conspiracy theories, which exist in their own little world, separate from other ideologies (kind of like the people who ardently believe in all of those conspiracies). I don't think Deus Ex had a really strong political bent in either direction and I would not support the game if it did, regardless of which way it swung.

That aside, I really wish politicians would leave the gaming industry alone. In fact, I wish they'd leave all entertainment media alone. Movies and games should be about the expression of ideas in a manner that is enjoyable to view, not trying to preach political ideologies.
Deus Ex, and to an extent it's sequal are basically tripple stranded. There's the world conspiracy angle (as you mentioned.) There's a srong cyberpunk narrative. And there's a boatload of Liberal political theory/philosophy. To it's credit, all of these themes are pretty overt. When you're talking to a sentient AI the game lets you debate political theory with it by asking questions like, "What is the proper function of government?" The options it provides as answers are generally various branches of liberal theory. I completly misused conservitive in my post though, and I appologize for that. Generally speaking the game bends liberal rather than conservitive in the conclusions the various characters draw, but the player character is almost always allowed to buck the system in these dialog threads (if I recall correctly.)

I didn't mean to imply that the conspiracies in Deus Ex were somehow liberal ones, I was refering to a different recurring theme in the game.
 

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RJ Dalton said:
Starke said:
Well, another day another story about the GOP that makes me go WTF?

To be fair, I remember hearing something about this back in january '09. So it only took them a year to get from, "I think we should do something" to "how can we embarass ourselves more" or something.

EDIT: As an aside, when I first glanced at this story, I assumed there'd be something along the lines of a conservitive counterpart to Deus Ex, or the like. Which is, honestly something I could respect, if not enjoy. This just... I don't know, I think it broke my brain.
A conservative counterpart to Deus Ex? Is the implication that Deus Ex was liberal? Because I don't buy that at all. Deus Ex was about conspiracy theories, which exist in their own little world, separate from other ideologies (kind of like the people who ardently believe in all of those conspiracies). I don't think Deus Ex had a really strong political bent in either direction and I would not support the game if it did, regardless of which way it swung.

That aside, I really wish politicians would leave the gaming industry alone. In fact, I wish they'd leave all entertainment media alone. Movies and games should be about the expression of ideas in a manner that is enjoyable to view, not trying to preach political ideologies.
Deus Ex was libertarian, but there were some liberal leanings. Not really the main conspiracies, but some of the side ones deserve a second look.

1. Surveillance through the internet (Icarus) I would have chalked up to neutral, but after Bush I feel snooping to be conservative.

2. You defend Vandenburg with Communist Chinese mechs.

3. RX-84 was a real program approved by Reagan, but it's a contingency plan that's never been put into practice.

4. Notice how the big bad guy wasn't the government agent, even if he was the toughest fight, but the power-hungry businessman (Page).

5. Tapering with public water supplies. This one is a conspiracy Republicans have been worried about since McCarthy, so Deus Ex isn't all liberal.

And the endings had you siding with the New World order (liberal), blowing it all up (Luddite), or becoming God. It's not until the second game that there's a conservative ending (Templar). If you read interviews with Warren Spector, he comes across as somewhat liberal. I expected to find an AIDS cure in one of those labs.

Why would Republicans hate games, when so many games are gun porn? Shouldn't the left hate games more? It seems like the right hates RPGs, while the left hate shooters. And they both hate GTA.

It's kind of unsettling that the GOP likes playing MW2, considering about how its a future war with Russia. Bush should have played SimCity. (Floods in New Orleans! Fires in LA!)It would be hilarious if they played Bioshock at that conference. I wonder if any of them would disagree with Ryan?
 

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Dear Rebuplican party. spending the majority of your air time bashing video games, claiming that they corrupt and destroy the morals of your countries youth, and then using the VERY SAME video games to lure the children you claim to care so much about to listen to your political parties ideals is both Hypocritical and diabolical. Please stop. Please.
 

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Kelethor said:
Dear Rebuplican party. spending the majority of your air time bashing video games, claiming that they corrupt and destroy the morals of your countries youth, and then using the VERY SAME video games to lure the children you claim to care so much about to listen to your political parties ideals is both Hypocritical and diabolical. Please stop. Please.
Ironically this can be said about all politicians, lol.
 

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not much different from democrats buying off senior citizens with cigarettes and lies about free health care.
 

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I think it's safe to apply my standard "get away as fast as possible" strategy that I use whenever conservatives are involved.
 

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I'm all for the idea of having an epic lounge for pollitically like-minded young people, but when the fun comes before the ideals....

Well, after seeing footage of a Klan carnival, I'm agianst using fun and games to get people to think your way. Charity fair, yes. Prizes for attending a sports club newbie meet, yes. Seeing the campus pollitical party groups try and coax people to join by offering membership perks, no. And both groups are guilty of that here...
 

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It seems like the kids eat this shit up now. If I was a child around 9/11/01, and I interpreted the fear coming from my parents as a direct threat to my personal safety, my little world- and then george bush came and made it all okay again... I'd eat that shit up too.

It's funny how a little war, tragedy and fear suddenly brings out a swell of "conservative" values in the most recent adolescent generation.

I've said it before. The 2000's were the 1980's all over again. Hopefully this means another round of 90's peace and prosperity is coming our way.

This was probably the worst decade of many people's lives.
 

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psrdirector said:
Considering how republicans lead the games are destroying our youth bandwagon, I find the hypocrisy of using games hilarious.
Republicans are not about logic or facts. They're about what truth old, rich, white, christian, males are comfortable with believing. This means their rhetoric changes from month to month as hate and ignorance staggers about like a drug addict given the keys to the local pharmacy.

Allow me to elaborate by using Fox News as an example. Last Year Beck slammed video games and liberal media for inciting violence in America. But when that crazed gunman shot two police officers because he believed Obama had sent them to take away his guns, Beck back peddled and said "You can't blame the media for the actions of a crazed madman." Sara Palin criticized Obama for using a teleprompter WHILE she had cliff notes written in the palm of her hand. Global Warming doesn't exist while at the same time they push to claim resources uncovered by the receding ice caps. The list goes on and on and on and on it's insanity.

The Republican party is for people frightened of a big, changing world filled with people who look and talk funny.
 

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Oh! That's it! Quick, help me throw out all my core beliefs, I want to become a Republican so I can play Dance Dance Revolution!

Ugh, I know political parties have made some shallow moves over the years to gain support...but is bribing people with the idea of getting to play COD really expected to work? A large majority of gamers aren't even old enough to vote and by the time they will, I would think that most of them will have forgotten about this and voted for who ever they want anyway.

I suspect Michael Steele is just trying to look "Hip" again, so he can be "Home with Downies"
 

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The old saying of 'offer one hand, arm the other hand' goes quite nicely here actually.

You know that they are going to bash it all in the future, its just a matter of time.
 

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Republicans go from trying to ban video games because they think the violence corrupts our minds to trying to get people to vote republican buy making this lounge.....they must really be hurting.