RIP Monty Oum 1981-2015
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Everyone here wants to know what happened, but most people understand a person/family has a right to not disclose personal information like that.Zaeseled said:
Now some people claim it's not right to ask the public for money without disclosing exactly what medical emergency sent him to the hospital in critical condition, that's their prerogative, but honestly I believe the onus is on the individual to choose rather not disclosing information is a reason to not donate to his hospital costs, 7,093 people have put forward $174,180 without information so take that what you will.
That's pretty much where we're at now.
All we can really gather is that it was an out of work injury as by his family wanting it to be kept secret. I am not saying we deserve to know, but knowing can sometimes help those cope and deal with the grief.
someone clearly hasn't had their daily dose of the amazing Nora!Johnisback said:
Though seriously, RWBY isn't all that bad, i mean, it isn't the most terrible thing ever, I think the best way to take it is to take it as something not so serious, it's just a bit of stupid, enjoyable animu weeaboo fun! Even just as something you love to laugh at for being silly!
But you're entitled to your opinions.
Though on topic, I hope he gets well soon, I think he's actually a really talented person, and like anyone, you don't want to see them in pain, lets hope it's nothing he can't get cured of!
Even if there's no information other than he's in critical condition & it's currently unknown if he'll pull through, and his family wishes to maintain privacy on the matter, we can probably still make a fairly educated guess.
Due to the very suddenness of the situation, it isn't likely a medical illness (like cancer). Monty had also been regular in his Twitter updates, and as far as I'm aware, he never posted anything about his health declining in such a way, so it's probably safe to rule such guesses out.
We can easily write out this being due to him severely overworking himself, as his work isn't one that'd lead to such worry after working too hard too long (he works on computers rather than, say, building buildings).
Now, this leaves the guesses that he was maybe in a car accident, or shot. More likely to have happened, but due to how tightly they're keeping the situation to their chests, this seems a little less likely since the former isn't really something you'd be so intent on keeping secret. Being shot then sounds more likely, however people have looked up to see if there has been any shootings in Austin the past few days, but have turned up nothing.
So, this has led people to believe that he may have tried killing himself. It would explain why they don't wish to talk about it (it being a very personal matter, and likely so that if he does recover he won't have to deal with internet harassers), the very suddenness of it, and how upset everyone at Rooster Teeth seems.
And the whole thing being a scam to drum up money is so idiotic and ludicrous it's not worth thinking.
Regardless of what happened to him, I hope he recovers. Met him at NYCC, and he was a nice dude, and took time to complement me and my cosplay.
Due to the very suddenness of the situation, it isn't likely a medical illness (like cancer). Monty had also been regular in his Twitter updates, and as far as I'm aware, he never posted anything about his health declining in such a way, so it's probably safe to rule such guesses out.
We can easily write out this being due to him severely overworking himself, as his work isn't one that'd lead to such worry after working too hard too long (he works on computers rather than, say, building buildings).
Now, this leaves the guesses that he was maybe in a car accident, or shot. More likely to have happened, but due to how tightly they're keeping the situation to their chests, this seems a little less likely since the former isn't really something you'd be so intent on keeping secret. Being shot then sounds more likely, however people have looked up to see if there has been any shootings in Austin the past few days, but have turned up nothing.
So, this has led people to believe that he may have tried killing himself. It would explain why they don't wish to talk about it (it being a very personal matter, and likely so that if he does recover he won't have to deal with internet harassers), the very suddenness of it, and how upset everyone at Rooster Teeth seems.
And the whole thing being a scam to drum up money is so idiotic and ludicrous it's not worth thinking.
Regardless of what happened to him, I hope he recovers. Met him at NYCC, and he was a nice dude, and took time to complement me and my cosplay.
Yeah but that's what a lot of people said about the Extra Credits group when they had their charity drive for Allison Theus and we all know how that ended (that wasn't a "scam" scam but we know a lot of people were not happy with how those funds were ultimately used).soren7550 said:
However, as others have suggested, I just choose not to donate because I don't have enough information that I'm willing to put money on it. I wish the guy all the best and hope that they don't get themselves in their own Extra Credit-like snafu over this...
I'm not fully familiar with what happened with Extra Credits (they took the money left over from the medical expenses to fund game makers or something?), but EC is a YouTube series, whereas Rooster Teeth is an ever expanding multimedia company. It'd be suicidal of them to do such a thing.tippy2k2 said:
Excuse me, I never said I hated the man's work, in this case RWBY. What I don't like is how he's treated it the last two years. You want to call me an asshole because I didn't donate like everyone else did without second thought fine, but don't come here making a smart remark like that simply because I was thinking. It's my money, and I'll use it the way I want to. It's not like me not donating is going to hurt him.NiPah said:
Seems to me like donating for an unspecified medical emergency is pretty dumb.
Maybe if there was 'needs [x] surgery' or 'has [x] amount of hospital bills' it would be a lot more reasonable, but what point does giving such a large amount of money now serve? It's not going to help in the immediate future because unless he's at the worst hospital to have ever existed, they'll do everything they can now anyway. All it proves is there's 7000 people willing to just throw their money at any cause they have no idea about because of a single post. The donation thing had already made tens of thousands before any of the twitters or videos went up talking about it, what if somebody guessed burnies password and decided to make a quick buck?
As harsh as this is going to sound, if you live in the US and are as far above the poverty line as the RT people are, what excuse do you have for a lack of health insurance? What if he has health insurance and it'll all be covered anyway, where does the $200k go?
Can't tell if i blame stupid people donating or the RT people for asking. Go from talking about fucking wi-fi connected light bulbs in their houses to asking for donations for their friends life?
Maybe if there was 'needs [x] surgery' or 'has [x] amount of hospital bills' it would be a lot more reasonable, but what point does giving such a large amount of money now serve? It's not going to help in the immediate future because unless he's at the worst hospital to have ever existed, they'll do everything they can now anyway. All it proves is there's 7000 people willing to just throw their money at any cause they have no idea about because of a single post. The donation thing had already made tens of thousands before any of the twitters or videos went up talking about it, what if somebody guessed burnies password and decided to make a quick buck?
As harsh as this is going to sound, if you live in the US and are as far above the poverty line as the RT people are, what excuse do you have for a lack of health insurance? What if he has health insurance and it'll all be covered anyway, where does the $200k go?
Can't tell if i blame stupid people donating or the RT people for asking. Go from talking about fucking wi-fi connected light bulbs in their houses to asking for donations for their friends life?
I'd hardly call it baseless since we're running on probabilities and knocking out other aspects.Robot Number V said:
Drug overdose or attempted suicide are top two competitors. If it's neither of the two I'll eat my sock.
And yes, I'm under no obligation to give them anything and they have every right to request for money. Doesn't mean it can't be a topic of discussion and it especially doesn't mean that folks won't hypothesis as to the nature of the ailment.
No matter the issue I wouldn't donate because I don't know the individual from a bar of soap, I just find not revealing the cause/symptoms to be indicative of self-harm.
If they're asking people to give them money for treatment, people giving that money have a right to know what they're giving money for.Baffle said:
Actually, they have the right to give them money of their own volition. They have no right to any more information at all.Randomvirus said:
It would be considered polite or "good business" to reveal the nature of the ailment but there is certainly no "right" for those who donate to have that information revealed to them.
At the time of the inital posting regarding his hospitalization, they specifically stated they do not know if he will pull through. If no further information has been provided, then it is likely safe to assume that they still do not know. If he was getting better, they'd all be cheering over their twitter accounts and announcing it happily. If he was getting worse, they'd be sharing condolences. Since they are doing neither, logic would assume that he's still in a place of uncertainty.DirectorK said:
And considering what of their best friends is currently fighting for his life, they all have more pressing and important things on their mind than to waste time hopping online to say to everyone 'hey everybody, nothing new to report'.
While your loss is tragic and you have my condolences, these two situations do not compare. One is your close family and the other is a near-total stranger.
I normally don't talk on these forums, just stalk, but this is one thing I feel the need to jump into.
The internet age has basically destroyed privacy and good faith charity it seems. Back in the day, if somebody said somebody was hospitalized and needed money people would give it without needing to push further if they were asked not to pry. But now, thanks to pretty much everything being handed to us on the silver platter known as the internet, it seems asking for money to help cover what insurance may scoff at and say "you're on your own" has to come with thirty different questions from the potential donater about what happened to said person. It's sad and it breaks my heart. No matter the reasons, humans shouldn't forsake their generosity in somebody's time of need. And yes, I'm fully aware that scams have helped people become wary, but again this is the internet: people will find out and it won't be pretty. RT has too much going for it to do something stupid like scam it's fans.
I hope Monty pulls through, but if the worst should happen, I wish his family and the RT crew well.
Edit: Oh, and to those ruling out medical conditions: sometimes there really are cases where it just happens suddenly. You could be just casually walking down the street and then BOOM! You're in the hospital nearly dead because of something that'd been hidden from you the entire time, so don't rule that out quite yet despite how young he is.
The internet age has basically destroyed privacy and good faith charity it seems. Back in the day, if somebody said somebody was hospitalized and needed money people would give it without needing to push further if they were asked not to pry. But now, thanks to pretty much everything being handed to us on the silver platter known as the internet, it seems asking for money to help cover what insurance may scoff at and say "you're on your own" has to come with thirty different questions from the potential donater about what happened to said person. It's sad and it breaks my heart. No matter the reasons, humans shouldn't forsake their generosity in somebody's time of need. And yes, I'm fully aware that scams have helped people become wary, but again this is the internet: people will find out and it won't be pretty. RT has too much going for it to do something stupid like scam it's fans.
I hope Monty pulls through, but if the worst should happen, I wish his family and the RT crew well.
Edit: Oh, and to those ruling out medical conditions: sometimes there really are cases where it just happens suddenly. You could be just casually walking down the street and then BOOM! You're in the hospital nearly dead because of something that'd been hidden from you the entire time, so don't rule that out quite yet despite how young he is.