Robocop Remake Trailer Hits the Streets
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So .... they've made Robocop into an evil version of the Six Million Dollar Man. *golf clap*
I figured the project was going to fail to deliver when I found out they had hired Sam Jackson but didn't cast him as Murphy/Robocop. "GET THESE MUTHABLEEPIN THUGS OFF MY MUTHABLEEPIN STREETS!" sigh
It could have been magnificent.
I figured the project was going to fail to deliver when I found out they had hired Sam Jackson but didn't cast him as Murphy/Robocop. "GET THESE MUTHABLEEPIN THUGS OFF MY MUTHABLEEPIN STREETS!" sigh
It could have been magnificent.
Well, if I may, he was set up to be a symbol in the original as well, though that was focused more on Detroit. He was supposed to be the sort of invincible cop who the people could get behind and feel safe. His whole existence was far more political than anything from the view of the people running the city.008Zulu said:
I totally agree that he shucked that mantle and things got real personal, which is why the movie was more effective than if he had been just a super hero. Hopefully, they'll go the same route this time. Based on the trailer, it does seem like they are going to lean that direction a bit more. Hold out for hope!
A Lot of bitching about exterior but only a few about interior.
This is in many basic points already something different.
In the origin Murphy was unwillingly, and unconscious too, drafted in to an ongoing cyborg-program for policeman and soldiers with amputees.
In the remake Murphy's wife is ask to write him in a reconstruction-program(because wheelchairs are evil, Dr.X).
In the origin Murphy dies officially and doesn't remember himself.
In the remake Murphy knows who he is and so does his family.
In the origin OCP made him a frontman, because he's the first success in the program.
In the remake OCP makes him a frontman, so the public calms down about the drone-program.
(Didn't see it? Androids: unmanned. ED-209: unmanned. Jet-copters: most likely unmanned.)
In the origin Murphy loses an arm and both legs through a executional shooting with failing and failed organs. The right arm could have been saved, but origin OCP wanted the full treatment tested.
In the remake Murphy loses left arm, and leg, and shatters spine through a car explosion, criminal revenge or most likely OCP (because in robocop everything leads to OCP).
I don't remember the source (official, ext. uni. or just fanfic) but origin Robocop was biologically just spine, lung, heart, face-skin and brain. Even eyes and stomach were artificial. So the metal was his body, life support and all. While the new goes more along the line of an exoskeleton. We see his right arm is still within the suit(even the black), so is probably his left leg and manly parts.
Something important we don't see is if the police is on strike or not. But this detroit looks more warzone then crime heaven. Everyone is heavier armed and more is destroyed, not simply ruined or neglected but destroyed. Just noticed we see poor people running, but the fighting doesn't have criminals, maybe cause PG 13 or they wear military equipment.
tl;dr.: This needs a Lets watch ...-trailer with Movie-Bob.
This is in many basic points already something different.
In the origin Murphy was unwillingly, and unconscious too, drafted in to an ongoing cyborg-program for policeman and soldiers with amputees.
In the remake Murphy's wife is ask to write him in a reconstruction-program(because wheelchairs are evil, Dr.X).
In the origin Murphy dies officially and doesn't remember himself.
In the remake Murphy knows who he is and so does his family.
In the origin OCP made him a frontman, because he's the first success in the program.
In the remake OCP makes him a frontman, so the public calms down about the drone-program.
(Didn't see it? Androids: unmanned. ED-209: unmanned. Jet-copters: most likely unmanned.)
In the origin Murphy loses an arm and both legs through a executional shooting with failing and failed organs. The right arm could have been saved, but origin OCP wanted the full treatment tested.
In the remake Murphy loses left arm, and leg, and shatters spine through a car explosion, criminal revenge or most likely OCP (because in robocop everything leads to OCP).
I don't remember the source (official, ext. uni. or just fanfic) but origin Robocop was biologically just spine, lung, heart, face-skin and brain. Even eyes and stomach were artificial. So the metal was his body, life support and all. While the new goes more along the line of an exoskeleton. We see his right arm is still within the suit(even the black), so is probably his left leg and manly parts.
Something important we don't see is if the police is on strike or not. But this detroit looks more warzone then crime heaven. Everyone is heavier armed and more is destroyed, not simply ruined or neglected but destroyed. Just noticed we see poor people running, but the fighting doesn't have criminals, maybe cause PG 13 or they wear military equipment.
tl;dr.: This needs a Lets watch ...-trailer with Movie-Bob.
Aside from a few nods to the original, I think it looks largely generic. Hate the new suit! Kinda gives me a Total Recall remake vibe.
Hmmm, this new version of Robocop looks interesting but why keep one of his hands normal when the old version had two cybernetic hands?
But I like how the eye strip on the black armor glows red.
But the true magic of Robocop was Murphy trying to find his true self and the crazy violence and humor.
Will have to see the movie to make a judgement call.
But I like how the eye strip on the black armor glows red.
But the true magic of Robocop was Murphy trying to find his true self and the crazy violence and humor.
Will have to see the movie to make a judgement call.
I file this in the same category I put Dredd 3D when it was being trailer'd, probably shit but I'll give it a go to find out. It looks a bit generic, more explosion and SFX porn than beloved retro movie but what is new these days?
Also, are 4th degree burns a thing? You can't just make stuff up in a movie!
Also, are 4th degree burns a thing? You can't just make stuff up in a movie!
I'm hopeful...it has a pretty good cast and the suit wasn't as bad as I had imagined. I thought they were on the right track with the gray armor, but when they revealed the black armor it was apparent they were only doing it to show the fans "hey look, we remembered it was gray, but it is WAY MORE XTREEEEME BLACK!". It didn't look like it has the same symbolism as before...but I'm not completely cynical yet. More like, 95% atm.
But in the original that was the point too. They made RoboCop to be a symbol, but they failed to take into account the possibility that his own memories and personality might make him hard to control.008Zulu said:
I don't know. The trailer is very, very generic but there's a few hints that there might be more to it than we're seeing. (And if you watch the trailer for the original movie, there's very little there that suggests you'd see more than a generic action flick either). One line in particular made me sit up and take notice - 'The illusion of free will'. Now *that's* a philosophical premise with some very interesting potential.
I'm not giving up on it yet. It won't be the same as the original, but that's fine - the original was great just as it was. But maybe they're doing something new with it.
So predictable. Lets make a robot with a guy in it, robot controls him, oh wait no he escapes control because humanity blah blah something something pretentious bullshit.
Awesome twist would be that in the end, the machine WAS Controlling him after all, just not following the orders of the people who assumed control over robocop. Queue skynet.
Awesome twist would be that in the end, the machine WAS Controlling him after all, just not following the orders of the people who assumed control over robocop. Queue skynet.
Ok I admit, I am willing to watched it eventhought we all know as hell it won't be an 18 (they went with the car explosion over being brutally gun down). Also I'm kind of surpise (I shouldn't be) that even ED 209 appear in it too.
What I liked: Ed209 looked good and it seems like they may have an even larger automated police group as well, which makes sense if they are updating the satire to include current fears about drones and such.
They give a nod to the original suit and then update it. While I don't like the new suit, this might be satirizing the way he's being marketed, especially if they are making some kind of false hope out of him.
The cast looks like they could be really good for this kind of movie.
What I did not like: Him keeping his arm. It was very poignant in the original that they took his arm off even though it could have been saved. The whole point was that he didn't belong to himself any more, he was considered property.
Him getting hurt by a car bomb is annoying as the scene will totally lack the sadism of the original and thus be less effective in making us crave revenge as an audience.
Her having the choice about whether he gets changed into Robocop or not is also highly annoying, as it continues to undermine the very important theme of company ownership of him as a person.
I'll hold off on judging it until I see the movie, but hopefully it will NOT be pg-13!
They give a nod to the original suit and then update it. While I don't like the new suit, this might be satirizing the way he's being marketed, especially if they are making some kind of false hope out of him.
The cast looks like they could be really good for this kind of movie.
What I did not like: Him keeping his arm. It was very poignant in the original that they took his arm off even though it could have been saved. The whole point was that he didn't belong to himself any more, he was considered property.
Him getting hurt by a car bomb is annoying as the scene will totally lack the sadism of the original and thus be less effective in making us crave revenge as an audience.
Her having the choice about whether he gets changed into Robocop or not is also highly annoying, as it continues to undermine the very important theme of company ownership of him as a person.
I'll hold off on judging it until I see the movie, but hopefully it will NOT be pg-13!
Huh, I managed to miss both parts where it mentioned them and skipped to the nice cartoon that didn't. The producers are forgiven.K.ur said:
They wanted to make it not a B movie like the original was. As good as the cheesy humour was, that style of action movie doesn't survive in the box office these days.BaronUberstein said:
OP:The fact that it's PG-13 will ruin it. I get that they want to stay away from the grade B nature that accompanies over the violence in films, but it really just makes them look like weak filmmakers if they can't even make an R rated Robocop movie. If you're going to make a Grade A film, put some work into it. Don't just make a movie using an idea that was done before and then water it down so you can sell it to teenagers for a good box office placing.
Well, this feels appropriate...
Sidenote: I'm surprised I found this clip on Youtube.
The trailer looks promising but the same could have been said for the Total Recall remake and look how that went. -_- It feels like the filmmakers completely missed the point of the original Robocop; the cheesy 80s action movie style, its dark humor, and its deep messages. This remake, while it may have a few things to say like the use of drones in the battlefield, feels like its lacking a soul-something the original had and then some. Plus the fact that it has great actors like Gary Coleman, Michael Keaton (sucks that he made the decision for the black Robocop suit), Samuel L. Jackson, and Jackie Earl Haley in this yet it feels like they're in it for a paycheck does not make me want to rush out to see it. I could be wrong but we just have to wait and see.
BTW. You think we're pissed about this, go see how Moviebob is handling this...
http://moviebob.blogspot.com/2013/09/robocop-remake-trailer.html
I'm dying to see his breakdown of this trailer in his next Intermission article and the inevitable Escape to the Movies review, if only for the cathartic value. It's bad enough to see Hollywood remake a modern classic into a bland cash-in in the sake of nostalgia, but knowing that they're doing this to Bob's all time favorite movie is pouring salt on an open wound.
Sidenote: I'm surprised I found this clip on Youtube.
The trailer looks promising but the same could have been said for the Total Recall remake and look how that went. -_- It feels like the filmmakers completely missed the point of the original Robocop; the cheesy 80s action movie style, its dark humor, and its deep messages. This remake, while it may have a few things to say like the use of drones in the battlefield, feels like its lacking a soul-something the original had and then some. Plus the fact that it has great actors like Gary Coleman, Michael Keaton (sucks that he made the decision for the black Robocop suit), Samuel L. Jackson, and Jackie Earl Haley in this yet it feels like they're in it for a paycheck does not make me want to rush out to see it. I could be wrong but we just have to wait and see.
BTW. You think we're pissed about this, go see how Moviebob is handling this...
http://moviebob.blogspot.com/2013/09/robocop-remake-trailer.html
I'm dying to see his breakdown of this trailer in his next Intermission article and the inevitable Escape to the Movies review, if only for the cathartic value. It's bad enough to see Hollywood remake a modern classic into a bland cash-in in the sake of nostalgia, but knowing that they're doing this to Bob's all time favorite movie is pouring salt on an open wound.
I'm one of the few who thinks the new armor looks really cool. Then again I never really saw the original robocop, so what do I know?
Nice of them to show the old Robocop armor (which was badass) before changing it to Spacemarine armor
It would've been more accurate if Michael Keaton had said..."Make him more...blah. Make him look...let's go with boring."
Also, did anyone else find it ironic Michael Keaton (AKA Batman) opted for black...it gave me a chuckle.
Anyway...this will be generic as hell and really boring (like the suit).
The only way to save this movie is to have Samuel L. have lots of screen time...and give him guns...and let him swear...and let him have badass robotic armor...and then have him kill Robocop 20 minutes in...and then let him be Robocop for the rest of the movie
Yea, that would be a great movie!
It would've been more accurate if Michael Keaton had said..."Make him more...blah. Make him look...let's go with boring."
Also, did anyone else find it ironic Michael Keaton (AKA Batman) opted for black...it gave me a chuckle.
Anyway...this will be generic as hell and really boring (like the suit).
The only way to save this movie is to have Samuel L. have lots of screen time...and give him guns...and let him swear...and let him have badass robotic armor...and then have him kill Robocop 20 minutes in...and then let him be Robocop for the rest of the movie
Yea, that would be a great movie!
That's actually the point. OCP is actually a parody of a the corporations of the 80's. Watch Wall Street then watch RoboCop and you'll see it. It may have been hard to grasp when you originally watched it, and nostalgia tends to hide heady concepts like that. RoboCop was always one of those weird message movies that you could get lost in the action, and miss the message. They're clearly keeping with the parody part, but instead of corporate 80's they've gone for modern day corporations. As long as they don't call him iRoboCop, and put out a half dozen different colors I'm fine with it.AxelxGabriel said: