Rockstar Sold Max Payne 2 Using Pirated Code

[Akalistos]

Also, is it unethical to pirate the work of a pirate?

While I'm not a lawyer, it strikes me that yes, it could potentially not only be unethical but illegal.

Simply put, while the cracker creates something he may have no right to create, the game developer does not gain any right to that code. So it depends what licence the cracker publishes his works under, if any.

You can't steal what someone doesn't want. Which is why i found that so funny. If your the hacker that did it and step out of the open, YOUR TOAST! So it not like they can sue them. And as Legitimate owner, they have a right on the property (aka Max Payne 2). Therefore, i think that Rockstar did the most magnificent Fu** *ou Hacker ever. I salute them for it.

 

[Dogstile]

I argued this on the BAY12 forums. It was available, they used it and saved time. Big deal.

 

[Ne1butme]

This seems very familiar. Didn't this happen before? Not with Steam, but with developer releasing a crack exe as a no-cd fix?

 

[WitherVoice]

Also, is it unethical to pirate the work of a pirate?

While I'm not a lawyer, it strikes me that yes, it could potentially not only be unethical but illegal.

Simply put, while the cracker creates something he may have no right to create, the game developer does not gain any right to that code. So it depends what licence the cracker publishes his works under, if any.

You can't steal what someone doesn't want. Which is why i found that so funny. If your the hacker that did it and step out of the open, YOUR TOAST! So it not like they can sue them. And as Legitimate owner, they have a right on the property (aka Max Payne 2). Therefore, i think that Rockstar did the most magnificent Fu** *ou Hacker ever. I salute them for it.

The crack is code. That code is intellectual property of its creator. They may not want to ENFORCE that right, and in fact, I would hold them in contempt were they to try. However, your idea that because Rockstar own Max Payne 2 they have some mystical right to everything that modifies Max Payne 2 is ridiculous.

 

[Smokeydubbs]

Wow does this really matter at all? Sure in a PR view it does but really, anyone that actually buys the game now doesn't care.

Like what someone said earlier, there's like one guy in charge of making it distributable on Steam and chances are he doesn't know anything about the DRM or code of the game.

 

[Jared]

Well, cartainlt a unique method to get it on...

 

[Mr.Pandah]

Here is an idea...who really cares? If it works, it works. If I were them, I'd have just taken out the image and that'd been the end of that story.

 

[Cousin_IT]

maybe the guy Rockstar put in charge for making the game Steam compatible used to be part of Myth & figured he'd save time by using one he made earlier?

 

[MercenaryCanary]

Poor Rockstar. Actually they probably put one guy in charge of readying it for distribution, and he used some initiative.



Well it seems Rockstar has finally... *Puts on Glasses*

Cracked

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Well that's today's meme quota filled

This meme always makes my day for some reason.

 

[Akalistos]

Sorry Rockstar, you can't just steal things from pirates. That makes you no better than them, cowboy.

Well, if you work at a job and expected to get paid, only for a group of dumbass trying to steal everything from under your nose (which included your pay). Yes, i guess it does. If your stolen by someone and get it back, are you a thief?

Stealing is stealing. And people are just going to look at this and use it as a justification. Wrong or not, thats what the response is going to be.

Than what the justification when your force to lay off employees because someone turn your hard work into freeware?

 

[Irridium]

Sorry Rockstar, you can't just steal things from pirates. That makes you no better than them, cowboy.

Well, if you work at a job and expected to get paid, only for a group of dumbass trying to steal everything from under your nose (which included your pay). Yes, i guess it does. If your stolen by someone and get it back, are you a thief?

Stealing is stealing. And people are just going to look at this and use it as a justification. Wrong or not, thats what the response is going to be.

Than what the justification when your force to lay off employees because someone turn your hard work into freeware?

Not sure, I don't pirate things.
But pirates will think of a reason. No matter how lame, they will think of a reason.

 

[Akalistos]

Also, is it unethical to pirate the work of a pirate?

While I'm not a lawyer, it strikes me that yes, it could potentially not only be unethical but illegal.

Simply put, while the cracker creates something he may have no right to create, the game developer does not gain any right to that code. So it depends what licence the cracker publishes his works under, if any.

You can't steal what someone doesn't want. Which is why i found that so funny. If your the hacker that did it and step out of the open, YOUR TOAST! So it not like they can sue them. And as Legitimate owner, they have a right on the property (aka Max Payne 2). Therefore, i think that Rockstar did the most magnificent Fu** *ou Hacker ever. I salute them for it.

The crack is code. That code is intellectual property of its creator. They may not want to ENFORCE that right, and in fact, I would hold them in contempt were they to try. However, your idea that because Rockstar own Max Payne 2 they have some mystical right to everything that modifies Max Payne 2 is ridiculous.

If your talking about MOD and MODING the game, i understand. But that code was make to steal and therefore isn't the same. Try to see that my way. You create something and sell it. One day a guy tell you that it like it better with something he done. It wouldn't piss you off. But if another one came and take everything just for the sake of not paying for it. Wouldn't that piss you off. Today, laws are more for criminal than victims. A thief cut himself at your house, not only would he walk free but he would sue your ass for everything he couldn't take.

Beside, that intellectual property was use to stole the intellectual property of another. And...Wait, wait... Speaking of freeware! Didn't that code end up being one? It made for hacking but Myth or whatever didn't charge anything for it. It was free for everyone. How come they can't use it? Their work was acknowledge right? Ergo, they could use it. Beside, it what i call Poetic Justice. You can't be against it without being against hackers.

 

[Akalistos]

Sorry Rockstar, you can't just steal things from pirates. That makes you no better than them, cowboy.

Well, if you work at a job and expected to get paid, only for a group of dumbass trying to steal everything from under your nose (which included your pay). Yes, i guess it does. If your stolen by someone and get it back, are you a thief?

Stealing is stealing. And people are just going to look at this and use it as a justification. Wrong or not, thats what the response is going to be.

Than what the justification when your force to lay off employees because someone turn your hard work into freeware?

Not sure, I don't pirate things.
But pirates will think of a reason. No matter how lame, they will think of a reason.

There no reason to steal beside feeding your starving family and only if it food. They don't need the game to live, they do it because they think they are better than the programmer. Beside like i said earlier:

Speaking of freeware! Didn't that code end up being one? It made for hacking but Myth or whatever didn't charge anything for it. It was free for everyone. How come they can't use it? Their work was acknowledge right? Ergo, they could use it. Beside, it what i call Poetic Justice. You can't be against it without being against hackers.

 

[Sporky111]

I think they should have left it up. Imagine the grief of those pirates when they found out that Rockstar was selling their hard work for profit on Steam. It would be beautiful, ironic justice.

 

[KingPiccolOwned]

Also, is it unethical to pirate the work of a pirate?

While I'm not a lawyer, it strikes me that yes, it could potentially not only be unethical but illegal.

Simply put, while the cracker creates something he may have no right to create, the game developer does not gain any right to that code. So it depends what licence the cracker publishes his works under, if any.

You can't steal what someone doesn't want. Which is why i found that so funny. If your the hacker that did it and step out of the open, YOUR TOAST! So it not like they can sue them. And as Legitimate owner, they have a right on the property (aka Max Payne 2). Therefore, i think that Rockstar did the most magnificent Fu** *ou Hacker ever. I salute them for it.

The crack is code. That code is intellectual property of its creator. They may not want to ENFORCE that right, and in fact, I would hold them in contempt were they to try. However, your idea that because Rockstar own Max Payne 2 they have some mystical right to everything that modifies Max Payne 2 is ridiculous.

Well Blizzard and Square Enix apparently do, so why not Rockstar?

 

[McNinja]

This situation raises some interesting questions. Why the hell would Rockstar sell a version of its game cracked by pirates? Is it really that hard to "crack" the game themselves? Also, is it unethical to pirate the work of a pirate?

They're lazy, no, and... maybe?

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

Now Rockstar can't sue whenever anyone pirates any of their software. Ever again.

 

[sunburst]

This is pretty messed up. Yet no matter how hard I try, I cannot hold this against Rockstar. I seriously wish I could, but it's just too karmically balanced to look down on. Well played guys. This deserves some kind of retarded award.