Rockstar Uses Actual Gang Members for GTA V Voice Acting

[AgentLampshade]

I have only one issue with this. Humour. Rockstar are pretty renowned for their humourous dialogue but if the real gang members say "Naw, I'm not saying this" then is GTA still a parody of real crime or a simulation? Even the pedestrians of GTAIV were humourous.

 

[BarbaricGoose]

Isn't it a little naive to think that this one, single voice acting opportunity will be enough to magically turn their lives around, and get them out of the gangs and into a legitimate career? And no, it's probably not gonna lead to a career in VO. For just some throwaway role, they're probably being paid about $800. That's almost a month of rent, and nowhere near enough to start a new life. Maybe more if they're getting credit for supervising the script. Still, I wouldn't bet it's enough to turn their life around.

I don't know how to feel about this, really. For me, it's more about the fact that they'll probably suck at delivering their lines--they're not actors, after all.

 

[wulf3n]

I'm very interested to learn how one rejoins society without having left it.

Those who commit criminal activities to survive aren't a part of society, as they don't contribute to society. I didn't explain it because because it was so obvious.

Then you go on to assume I view prison as punishment and use that assumption to try and combat me. Which is funny, because I don't see prison as a punishment.

Then what do you see it as a day care center?

 

[Metalrocks]

i always had the feeling that rockstar is run by criminals but now they do hire criminals. the way they explain situations and pretty much know how things are in crime. just look at LA noire.
but well, i woulndt have bought part 5 anyway. gave up on it the series a long time ago.

 

[wulf3n]

They aren't part of society because they don't- oh man, even the people in the Space Station can see you are making this up as you go. You are a part of society until you are removed from it last time I checked.

Oh Glorious Genius Overload explain to me then exactly how one is removed from society [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society] and how that differs from what I said.

Prison is exactly what I said it is numerous times.

You know, it doesn't even matter what you "think" prison is because it doesn't change the fact that you prefer to send people there than prevent them from needing to be sent there.

Which again goes against the core of "violence breeds violence"

 

[BarbaricGoose]

i always had the feeling that rockstar is run by criminals but now they do hire criminals. the way they explain situations and pretty much know how things are in crime. just look at LA noire.
but well, i woulndt have bought part 5 anyway. gave up on it the series a long time ago.

So.. "know[ing] how things are in crime" makes you a criminal? By that logic, wouldn't detectives (and lawyers especially) be criminals themselves? Couldn't they just, I don't know, be talented writers?

And I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "explain situations."

Also, inb4 lawyer joke.

 

[SonicWaffle]

EDIT because fuck it, I can't be bothered. Not worth getting riled up over. Sorry if I've annoyed anyone, but this really isn't worth having it descend into petty insults and "no, YOU straw-manned first!" bickering.

Peace out y'all, and have a nice day.

 

[bafrali]

What the hell guys. Here is Rockstar getting their hands dirty (no pun and offense intended) for their craft and this is how you appreciate their work?

I personally applaud their creativity and guts.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Hiring convicted criminals is fine.

Hiring people specifically because they are convicted criminals, not fine. If the only way you can get that job is to be convicted of something first...that is very different from not being biased against hiring criminals.

(As an aside, I could see the game being banned in Australia over this, as under Australian law it's illegal to profit from a crime, which might include getting a job a law abiding citizen couldn't.)

 

[wulf3n]

(As an aside, I could see the game being banned in Australia over this, as under Australian law it's illegal to profit from a crime, which might include getting a job a law abiding citizen couldn't.)

I think that refers specifically to the criminal who committed the crime is not able to profit from that crime. Unless Rockstar are referencing actual crimes there shouldn't be an issue.

 

[Metalrocks]

i always had the feeling that rockstar is run by criminals but now they do hire criminals. the way they explain situations and pretty much know how things are in crime. just look at LA noire.
but well, i woulndt have bought part 5 anyway. gave up on it the series a long time ago.

So.. "know[ing] how things are in crime" makes you a criminal? By that logic, wouldn't detectives (and lawyers especially) be criminals themselves? Couldn't they just, I don't know, be talented writers?

And I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "explain situations."

Also, inb4 lawyer joke.

lol, i was being more sarcastic about it, not serious.
just to me, pretty much every game from rockstar (at least the once i have played), has something to do with crime. im not saying that knowing how crime it self works is bad, just the impression they give me that rockstar is run by criminals because of these games.

thats all.

 

[wulf3n]

Go ahead and show me where I said I "prefer to send people to prison instead of preventing a crime."

I'll wait.

OK.

I'd rather drug pushing pimps and thugs don't get paid out of my pocket. I'd rather they end up in prison

Hmmm, rather they end up in prison than get paid legitimate work.

 

[Simonism451]

I'd just love to know who this "specialist" is that found all these gang members. That would be one hell of an eye-brow raising CV.

A police reporter who is fairly competent at his job, someone who grew up in the poorer parts of LA but isn't a gangmember, ex-gangmembers or current gangmembers.

 

[verdant monkai]

Just more evidence that Rockstar are as scummy as the characters they make. By giving known criminals any kind of support or money they will be supporting organised crime.

All of you saying its honest work need to realise that this is just glorification of the criminal lifestyle for them. They need to get an honest job that is not at all related to gang activity, thats the way to reform people. Not paying them to be in a game glorifying criminals because they are in a violent gang.

I also cant see them being great voice actors... I think I may give GTA5 a miss.

 

[wulf3n]

Now you're trying to argue not wanting to give money to drug pushing pimps is the same as preferring they commit crime and go to prison.

I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of someone who claims to believe "violence breeds violence" but would prefer criminals keep commiting crimes and go to jail than give them legitimate work.

Do tell me how much money you give to sex slavers, drug dealers and murderous every day to prevent them committing crime. Oh, is that absurd? Yes. Yes it is absurd.

Is it absurd to give people alternatives to crime?

Almost as if someone was reaching so far to try and prove a point that they ignored context and reasonable logic.

Yeah I know how that feels.

 

[SinisterGehe]

Oh Fox news is so going to jump on to this....

I don't think this is a good idea... I don't think it adds anything to the game that talent voice actor udner someone's guidance who knows about gangs would have.

 

[wulf3n]

I said I refuse to pay drug pushing pimps and murderers.

For legitimate work, don't forget the most crucial part.

and technically you said Thugs not murderers, quit changing your argument.

I mentioned more than once that I want criminals to sever their ties to crime and then get a job.

So they can't get a job then sever their ties to crime?

Has the argument that has been made since the very start suddenly become clear to you?

You mean the argument in my very first post that you've yet to address:

"you prefer to send people there than prevent them from needing to be sent there.
Which goes against the core of "violence breeds violence"

 

[Erttheking]

Well the article says that they got out of prison, IE, they did the time for their crimes. I don't see the problem. The whole situation and how people are reacting to it kind of reminds me of Les Miserables where the main guy did 17 years for stealing a loaf of bread and then couldn't get work anywhere.

Then again Fox News is going to be jumping on this and talking about it day in...and...day...out..........Rockstar you clever bastards. You KNEW that people would find this controversial and would talk about it all the time. And there's no such thing as bad publicity is there? Christ, it's practically GTA tradition.

 

[wulf3n]

Oh, nice of you to go in a circle in your failing attempts to out debate me.

Going in a circle requires us to have moved from the initial post, we haven't gone anywhere.

We're back here again, eh.

We never left.

Back to you using a quote of me wrong as evidence that I somehow want FORMER gang members to go to gaol.

History will be the judge of that.

edit: I also never said or implied you want FORMER gang members to go to jail, I only ever showed that you said you want current gang members to go to jail instead of not be gang members.

Well I'm done with you.

So be it.

You've argued in a circle,

No I haven't.

used straw mans

No I haven't.

and generally refused to read anything.

I've read everything.

Bye bye.

See ya.

 

[Sangnz]

This hypemachine is getting beyond a joke, multistory buildings covered with GTA V images, now this, look at us we are using criminals to play criminals aren't we awesome!?

Who the hell is going to be able to tell the difference between a voice actor and a criminal? No one, the closest most people have been to a criminal is watching the sopranos. Hell the criminal is probably going to sound the worst out of the two because he is just a criminal trying to voice act as a criminal.

Argh shit like this smells of nothing more than a PR stunt.