Add a fourth to that one, I was going to cast my vote on that but was beaten to it.chimpzy said:
Romance in Games that you thought was Well Executed
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I second this. Though I think that the True Law (was it?) The one with marriage was the better one. Still Vincent needs to learn to say no.VanQQisH said:
I bought Thomas Was Alone after reading Critical Miss last Friday. Since then I've played though most of the game, enough to say that the romance between Chris and Laura was really good, especially for being between a cube and a rectangle. Laura shares Chris' weakness (He can't jump very high), and offsets it with her bouncing ability. They complement each other both in personality and functionality.
A lot of people have already mentioned Junpei and Chidori from P3, and I definitely agree. When he falls in love with Chidori, Junpei realizes that up until that point, he didn't really have much of a reason to live. She gives him that and, while Junpei doesn't realize it, he does the same for her.
I also really liked the romances in Odin Sphere, though I've yet to finish that game because it's harrrrd. I'll admit that Gwendolyn is basically sold to Oswald to begin with, but that's more a testament to how much of a monster her father is. Oswald doesn't want to force her into anything, because he genuinely loves her, and when Gwendolyn realizes that, and that he's the first person love her unconditionally, she risks her life to save him.
A lot of people have already mentioned Junpei and Chidori from P3, and I definitely agree. When he falls in love with Chidori, Junpei realizes that up until that point, he didn't really have much of a reason to live. She gives him that and, while Junpei doesn't realize it, he does the same for her.
I also really liked the romances in Odin Sphere, though I've yet to finish that game because it's harrrrd. I'll admit that Gwendolyn is basically sold to Oswald to begin with, but that's more a testament to how much of a monster her father is. Oswald doesn't want to force her into anything, because he genuinely loves her, and when Gwendolyn realizes that, and that he's the first person love her unconditionally, she risks her life to save him.
Please elaborate, what part of that game was even natural to begin with? I played through it and though I could see it coming from the very beginning I was still disturbed by it. You know the snake half bit... *shudders*saintdane05 said:
Amata and you in Fallout 3. You grew up together and she does kind acts (party) and you help her out, in return she brings up the first example of self-sacrifice and it was obvious she liked you, but had to let you go.
Trip isn't really a sadistic captor, instead she's vulnerable and desperate. It's not like stockholm syndrome, because she needs him. It's not a one-way relationship where Monkey glosses over what Trip has done.Mr Cwtchy said:
Trip admits later on that she knows that enslaving him was wrong. It's kind of an example of good things coming about in the end despite bad actions. So the game does call it out for what it is.
Mass Effect. I genuinely cared for all the characters and what happened to them, especially Liara. I had never experienced feelings like that over a character before, and I initially thought it was kind of creepy until I found that pretty much everyone playing them had felt the same way about the characters.
So its supporting a romance where the romantic partners know nothing about each other (well, she doesn't know anything about him) and for all we know have completely different personalities that if they ever did decide to settle down on a headcrab farm would instantly be acidic without the immediate threat of the combine breaking down their door and smashing their faces in. Yes, great romance with a very positive message.Jim_Callahan said:
Well sorry, but, come on, heap all the praise you want on half life 2 but that relationship is just not a good one.Akratus said:
In The Walking Dead there's definitely some chemistry suggested between Lee and Carley (if you saved her of course, but really, who didn't?)
There's like one kiss on the cheek, but in a setting of so much despair and death, it means a hell of a lot more than any of the 'romances' in the Mass Effect games.
There's like one kiss on the cheek, but in a setting of so much despair and death, it means a hell of a lot more than any of the 'romances' in the Mass Effect games.
For me(and maybe other people) I think the reason is less the writing itself and more the gameplay mechanic that causes them. I think most people recognise that a lot of good writing goes into the pairings but it's delivered in such a push lever way. It's harder to value that writing when you know that you've picked an objective and are basically just cranking a lever, at the end of which will be a sex scene (I still think people get caught up in the romance, but the cranking level makes the sex seem more like a 'reward' than part of a story). I heard Dragon Age adopted a system more similar to KotoR 2 though? In that case I would have no issue with it.EmperorSubcutaneous said:
It's not only Bioware though, The Witcher also feels like cranking a lever for sex, but I suspect that was the goal in this case =D
But other than that I can't think of a game that handles relationships like Bioware do which is probably why it's Biowares reputation. It's kinda similar in Planescape but the important differences are a)The person approaches you sometimes and those interactions are judged and b) the good option can be a little harder to find than top-righting
I was actually surprised that there would be a romantic element to Deadly Premonition, but I thought it worked well. It felt unhurried and progressed naturally. Plus, it was nice to see a love interest that developed alongside the protagonist, working to protect him as he protected her.
Sorry, I think that's more your interpretation than an actual implication.EternalNothingness said:
The Last Story indefinitely, it had better than mediocre writing going for it at least. Yes the love story shown has been done to death a million times, but out of those a million at least it didn't shit all over itself, which is the best I could ask for.
The Witcher 2 romance between Geralt and Triss was quite wonderful in my opinion. I really enjoyed it, something that doesn't really happen with me.
Apparently Persona 3/4 does Romance quite well, but I haven't played it yet.
Apparently Persona 3/4 does Romance quite well, but I haven't played it yet.
Big Boss and The Boss. Wow.
Persona 4 social links with the main female cast members felt very real. Special mention to P4G for expanding on the relationships with said characters.
Nate Drake and Elena in Uncharted 2. The only game in the series that nailed the dialogue with them perfectly. Clowns.
Junpei and Chidori from Persona 3. Such a short time these characters spent together and it is deeeeeep. Not to mention the scene where Junpei finds resolve, that hit me hard.
Persona 4 social links with the main female cast members felt very real. Special mention to P4G for expanding on the relationships with said characters.
Nate Drake and Elena in Uncharted 2. The only game in the series that nailed the dialogue with them perfectly. Clowns.
Junpei and Chidori from Persona 3. Such a short time these characters spent together and it is deeeeeep. Not to mention the scene where Junpei finds resolve, that hit me hard.
True enough. That game receives far too much hate, mostly because it isn't a real paper mario game.Lord Garnaat said:
Detaching it from one's expectations for the franchise though, it's a very good game all on its own.
Squall and Rinoa from FFVIII, surprised this one hasn't been mentioned yet, sure it might not be the most believable romance out there, but for the time it was pretty engaging. Though me being a socially awkward angsty teen at the time it came out might have helped me be more moved by a socially awkward angsty teen romance. Parts of it still hold up though, all the stuff on the Ragnarok is great, when "Eyes on Me" starts playing. Also the Laguna relationships are pretty good as well, both with Julia, and later Raine.
However since playing To the Moon all other game romances seem to pale in comparison. Man that is a fantastic game.
However since playing To the Moon all other game romances seem to pale in comparison. Man that is a fantastic game.