Will there be crack addiction status effects? Cash would have to be really hard to come by too. Obviously you'd have to talk like a gansta too.
RPG set in the ghetto
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See that "games as art" bull? I know why we can't be taken seriously.lRookiel said:
Because we can't stand being taken seriously. We glorify violence and beating hookers (and I love it) but the moment someone makes a game like Six Days in Fallujah there are shitstorms.
Heck, even calling insurgents their actual name on Medal of Honor caused a shitstorm.
What is actually setting us back is that we look at certain themes and say "OH NOES THAT IS GOING TO FAR".
First person to mention pedophilia to counter my argument gets a kick in the teeth because honestly I am tired of those kinds of threads.
Not really. Saints row is an insanity simulator that features gangs. The OP seems to be after something a little (or a lot) more grounded.Thaliur said:
Ehhh, sounds a bit depressing. Then again i have disinterest in the gang culture in general. Back in the 30's is when gangsters were gangsters 
San andreas and saints row only worked because they were parodies and had A LOT MORE than just gang culture.
Then again, the drug running in GTA china town wars was pretty damn fun X) But again, thats because it had other things as well.
San andreas and saints row only worked because they were parodies and had A LOT MORE than just gang culture.
Then again, the drug running in GTA china town wars was pretty damn fun X) But again, thats because it had other things as well.
Sounds like a more realistic San Andres, I'm not really that interested in modern gang culture. Now a gang RPG set in the 1930's-1950's would be fantastic, missions where you run booze and run a speakeasy (But I'm a sucker for that type of stuff)
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Don't know. Doesn't sound very different from Saints Row.The_Blue_Rider said:
Well, before it got campy and ridiculous.
There have been plenty of games set in, or partially around, ghetto communities. The whole "Dark Future" genere with games like Shadowrun, Bloodnet, and others are example of this in a near future type setting. Then you have various crime simulators, ranging from say "San Andreas" to say "Kingpin: Life Of Crime" and others.
That said, none of these games have really been instructional in teaching people specifically how to commit crimes like cooking Meth, or making bombs, or whatever else. I suppose if they did, they could be defended the same way things like the "Anarchist's Cookbook" have been, but at the same time I figure there isn't much of an audience for this. Most people play video games to escape from that stuff.
What's more doing it "right" would probably cause outcries of racism and bigotry even louder than what we saw from "The Sopranos" and other mafia dramas from the Italian American community. Just because that's the way it is, doesn't mean people want to accept that.
I suppose in this case I might agree to an extent, because while hardly politically correct such a simulation seems like a toy for sheltered white kids who try and "act like ghetto folk", dress the part, and otherwise annoy everyone. It doesn't go as far as say the old "Bum Fights" video series, but taps a similar fan base.
Basically, if you live that why do you want a video game about it? If you want to play a video game like that chances are your not in the ghetto and too scared to go there (and are an outsider anyway), what's more say cooking drugs and cutting them with crap and stuff to make money through an entertainment product, is about as respectful as watching some dude in a safari outfit run around and tackle/terrify homeless people doing a Steve Irwin impression before "tagging and releasing" them.... yes we're talking about "Bum Hunter"... not to mention "Rufus The Stunt Bum". At one time I admit I watched stuff like that and then really thought about it and decided it was just wrong. What amounts to a video game version of the same basic "ghetto exploitation" stuff is equally tasteless even if real people aren't being terrorized.
That said, none of these games have really been instructional in teaching people specifically how to commit crimes like cooking Meth, or making bombs, or whatever else. I suppose if they did, they could be defended the same way things like the "Anarchist's Cookbook" have been, but at the same time I figure there isn't much of an audience for this. Most people play video games to escape from that stuff.
What's more doing it "right" would probably cause outcries of racism and bigotry even louder than what we saw from "The Sopranos" and other mafia dramas from the Italian American community. Just because that's the way it is, doesn't mean people want to accept that.
I suppose in this case I might agree to an extent, because while hardly politically correct such a simulation seems like a toy for sheltered white kids who try and "act like ghetto folk", dress the part, and otherwise annoy everyone. It doesn't go as far as say the old "Bum Fights" video series, but taps a similar fan base.
Basically, if you live that why do you want a video game about it? If you want to play a video game like that chances are your not in the ghetto and too scared to go there (and are an outsider anyway), what's more say cooking drugs and cutting them with crap and stuff to make money through an entertainment product, is about as respectful as watching some dude in a safari outfit run around and tackle/terrify homeless people doing a Steve Irwin impression before "tagging and releasing" them.... yes we're talking about "Bum Hunter"... not to mention "Rufus The Stunt Bum". At one time I admit I watched stuff like that and then really thought about it and decided it was just wrong. What amounts to a video game version of the same basic "ghetto exploitation" stuff is equally tasteless even if real people aren't being terrorized.
Racist =/= prejudice against blacks. Just sayin'. If you use latinos, it would still be called racist. Heck, probably even if it features a black person pedestrian, it could cause some sort of outcry. Have you learned nothing from video game haters?chuckman1 said:
OK, you get an internetz for reminding me of Destiny's Price. If somebody does decide to go for it, just take it with a grain of salt, some wackiness is involved (cybernetic DJs, for the win, though) however, some of the higher quality and most mature (as opposed to juvenile) material from Black Dog.malestrithe said:
Worth a look at, if only for the haunted basketball court which I fucking love.
Thank you, I don't understand why it's so hard to understand for others.MisterM2402 said:
Completely unrelated, your avatar looks very girly.
Would you mind holding that expression. And close your eyes, I have a surprise for you...MisterM2402 said:
Yeah, you could really convey the struggles of the Jews of occupied Pola-oh...that ghetto.
In all seriousness, it sounds like a great idea, like a super in-depth version of San Andreas.
While I could see it as ammo for the anti-gaming advocates, I'll support any RPG that goes beyond the standard medieval fntasy or sci-fi settings (well, goes beyond those settings and is a good game in-of-itself).
In all seriousness, it sounds like a great idea, like a super in-depth version of San Andreas.
While I could see it as ammo for the anti-gaming advocates, I'll support any RPG that goes beyond the standard medieval fntasy or sci-fi settings (well, goes beyond those settings and is a good game in-of-itself).
Great, all we need in this culture is another piece of crap glamorizing thug culture and glorifying hood life. GREAT. Lets all be wiggas and ballas and hood rats and ghetto hoes. That's exactly what I want to lead.
We play games to ESCAPE our normal lives. Who would honestly WANT to live in, or pretend to live in, a ghetto? Anyone who say's they do has never lived in a ghetto.
We play games to ESCAPE our normal lives. Who would honestly WANT to live in, or pretend to live in, a ghetto? Anyone who say's they do has never lived in a ghetto.
Took the words right out of my mouth.llagrok said:
Having said that, I think that a "ghetto" RPG would be absolutely hilarious if it would be done as a parody. I can see having to use my "Haul Ass" ability in order to evade the overpowered "Po-po's". Let's not even get into what the conversation options would be. The possibilities are endless.
You know, this is actually something that's very similar to an idea I've had for awhile. An RPG game set in a ghetto.
Something as delicate as this would need to be handled with seriousness. People here are saying this would glorify the gangster lifestyle... Maybe. But even GTA showed that the life of a gangster is an inescapable life of violence and trouble.
Although I disagree with the OP's ideas, they tread too close to "Gangster fantasy" which indeed seems to glorify life in the hood rather than show us Gangster Reality. The whole thing with 'stackin papers, gettin paid, and movin on up' is the allure to the gangster lifestyle, but a huge dodge to the reality of it. And I think this should be avoided if an RPG game were to try this, or at least address the fallacy of it.
The thing with ghettos, and the gangster lifestyle, is that people feel it's their only option. Becoming a gangster is a person's only way to do what they have to do to survive, Even if it's becoming a scumbag. It's their only avenue for success in a surrounding with no hope.
Could something as serious as that be portrayed in a videogame? I don't see why not. Especially an RPG one. And there's potential to this sort of Cash-Rules-Everything-Around-Me storylines. After all, gangs aren't a modern phenomena nor an american one. If an RPG could be set in the modern ghettos of today, we could see older or foreign ghettos too.
Ah it's probably too much to hope for. I wonder which developer would have the balls and skill to handle this sort of thing. Or we'd end up with another Call of Juarez: The Cartel. Eugh.
Something as delicate as this would need to be handled with seriousness. People here are saying this would glorify the gangster lifestyle... Maybe. But even GTA showed that the life of a gangster is an inescapable life of violence and trouble.
Although I disagree with the OP's ideas, they tread too close to "Gangster fantasy" which indeed seems to glorify life in the hood rather than show us Gangster Reality. The whole thing with 'stackin papers, gettin paid, and movin on up' is the allure to the gangster lifestyle, but a huge dodge to the reality of it. And I think this should be avoided if an RPG game were to try this, or at least address the fallacy of it.
The thing with ghettos, and the gangster lifestyle, is that people feel it's their only option. Becoming a gangster is a person's only way to do what they have to do to survive, Even if it's becoming a scumbag. It's their only avenue for success in a surrounding with no hope.
Could something as serious as that be portrayed in a videogame? I don't see why not. Especially an RPG one. And there's potential to this sort of Cash-Rules-Everything-Around-Me storylines. After all, gangs aren't a modern phenomena nor an american one. If an RPG could be set in the modern ghettos of today, we could see older or foreign ghettos too.
Ah it's probably too much to hope for. I wonder which developer would have the balls and skill to handle this sort of thing. Or we'd end up with another Call of Juarez: The Cartel. Eugh.
My next idea regarding this was a more lighthearted approach. That would be easier to accept, and to pull off, I imagine. An RPG along the lines of Menace 2 Society would be cool... or rather one along the lines of Don't be a menace to South Central while drinking your juice in the hood? hmmmmm. There is a huge potential for hilarity. I think the latter would be a more feasible game to make.Spitfire said:
