Rumor: Dead or Alive: Dimensions Pulled From Sweden Over Child Porn Laws

[Biodeamon]

This isn't the only game banned because a teenager in a videogame could be tooken advantage of...oh well, i still have Brawl for comprising position pictures...

 

[Royas]

It's a stupid law to begin with. The only reason to limit any type of media is that it can do harm to someone. CP (as in photos) are clearly causing harm, as they are basically recorded child abuse. Comics and illustrations, however, have no victims. They aren't real, nobody is being hurt, there is no justification for the law.

Real CP= Bad, real bad.

Drawn CP = Sick, but not harmful

 

[KarlMonster]

I'm not saying that anyone is doing something right or wrong, just...

What's with the Japanese comic/gaming culture and underage girls???

I mean... I get that this is a frequent theme in manga/anime, but why?
Are they appealing to underage boy gamers, or the tentacle porn crowd?
I'm fairly sure that a 22 year old young woman would be more plausible in most story roles.
[Not to mention the unrealistic anatomical development that gets ascribed to nubile teens!]

 

[Jabberwock xeno]

Sad to see a game not released somewhere over what I see as stupid laws.

DISCLAIMER: I mean no offense to anybody by that statement.

 

[ph0b0s123]

So Sweden doesn't respect that other countries have different ages for consent. Enlightening.

Our age of consent is 15, mind you. Pornographic representation, however, is 18.

I find it odd that there's a difference.
Is is just so they can sell porn to different countries?

Your sense and maturity to enjoy sex arrives before your sense of world-wide recognition through a morally grey media.

1. Drive out of country, purchase game.
OR
2. Import game with $5 extra shipping.

Problem solved.

Might be illegal...

Importing the game is a bad idea, as you run the risk of, if caught with it in your possession, being charged with possession of CP and all the fun that entails. Since people have been convicted of being in possession of books of photography officially sold without complaint from national book chains, having something unofficial leaves you even more vulnerable to arrest.


A quick check on wikipedia shows that Sweden will also not allow over 18's to pose naked if they look under 18.

This is the state all this has gotten to, with lot of countries including my own UK, treating fictitious children (children = under 18's) the same as real ones. And the dumbness of the having to be over 18, when the age of consent is much younger takes the biscuit. I could have sex with a 15 year old in Sweden, but if I have a drawing or photo of said 15 year old naked (even though I have already seen them like that with my own eyes), I'm guilty of having CP, give it a rest.

You want to stop under 18's wanting to appear in porn, great completely agree with doing that. But don't do it by having material of people over the age of consent treated the same as CP. Treat it differently and focus on the people creating the stuff and exploiting under 18's.

The idea that these characters with their very adult physiques are going to turn everyone into pedo's is the high of dumbness. By definition, no pedo is going to find the characters in the game appealing.

But for those hoping sanity will prevail, I think it is going to get worse before getting better, as laws like this have a lot of support from average joe public who actually would like the laws to go further, rather than softening them in this area. For any politicians, it would be career suicide to argue in favour of softening anything to do with child abuse.

And as I understand it its not Sweden that have forbidden the game company to release the games in Sweden, I understand it more to be that they do not want to risk it and then get associated with kiddie porn

"This potentially puts these underaged characters into a "pornographic situation," which could violate the Swedish law."

It doesnt say anywhere that Sweden decided to ban this game.

How come it is being released elsewhere. Surely it has just as much risk of being associated with 'kiddie porn' anywhere else as all of exported Japanese media does. Sweden's CP laws are not unique and there are the same things in place in the UK and the US where people have been convicted for having CP not involving real children. Why loss your bottle just for Sweden?

 

[Gigano]

Oh, the spineless idiocy...

The police found nothing wrong with the game [http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-20-nordic-dead-or-alive-release-ruined], yet the distributor still decided to pull it not only from Sweden, but from the rest of Scandinavia as well.

Not that I'd hold it to be much of a loss - English imports are significantly cheaper than Scandinavian retail, and DOA was always fairly tasteless anyway - but this spineless succumbing to moral panics really gets on my nerves. Not to mention how it trivializes and takes away resources from the fight against real child pornography.

The post which started this whole ridiculous mess can be found here [https://www.flashback.org/t1525412] (Swedish).

 

[General_Potatoes]

They better leave that " Figure mode " for the Australian release. Oh wait..... Its probably gonna get banned here too DX

 

[TheRealCJ]

"swedish DOA fans"

All three of them will just have to resort to the internet for their softcore pornography, just like the rest of us.

 

[Ghengis John]

You mentioned three characters:

The trouble arises from three characters in the game, Kasumi, Koroke and Ayane, who are all under 18.

Well that's fine and probably factual but you've got a typo in there. The fighter's name is Kokoro, not karoke. Karoke, while also delightful, is essentially a japanese tater-tot.

Mmmmm. Koroke.

Mmmmm. Kokoro.


While there are certain structural similarities shared between tater tots and Kokoro's digital counterpart, I thought I should toss you a friendly envoy to allay any potential confusion between the two.

There's a strong and basic recurral of themes and geometry I'm having a hard time putting my finger on...

But what could it be...

In any event, there's a typo there and I had thought I should point it out via a private message to avoid looking like that douchey know it all type who thrills in pointing out other people's mistakes in public. Because it's a small thing and I really hate that guy. But because you ignored my private message, here you go.

 

[TheAmokz]

You mentioned three characters:

The trouble arises from three characters in the game, Kasumi, Koroke and Ayane, who are all under 18.

Well that's fine and probably factual but you've got a typo in there. The fighter's name is Kokoro, not karoke. Karoke, while also delightful, is essentially a japanese tater-tot.

Also: Koroke = platform/stand

Finnish-English-Finnish Dictionary
http://www.virtuaaliyliopisto.fi/erillissivut/vy_sanakirja.html

 

[Ushiromiya Battler]

Now this doesn't make any sense....
Here in Norway, they still publish manga and anime that is far worse than that....
And I would think it's much the same in Sweden and Denmark....
I call BS on this!

 

[Ghengis John]

You mentioned three characters:

The trouble arises from three characters in the game, Kasumi, Koroke and Ayane, who are all under 18.

Well that's fine and probably factual but you've got a typo in there. The fighter's name is Kokoro, not karoke. Karoke, while also delightful, is essentially a japanese tater-tot.

Also: Koroke = platform/stand

Finnish-English-Finnish Dictionary
http://www.virtuaaliyliopisto.fi/erillissivut/vy_sanakirja.html

Point is: name's wrong. Ya know? But that is interesting.

 

[5mj7R7yf4Dwr3gdZyyu9PeGNwYjlNrjzuh3iTXQG]

My friends, it's gotten worse [http://www.news.com.au/technology/gaming/child-porn-concerns-over-nintendo-game-dead-or-alive-dimensions/story-e6frfrt9-1226066811839].

This really sounds more like specific politicos getting their jockstraps in a twist over mid-life crisis desires to do their own daughter('s friends). But sadly, Gaming is still a New Rock and Roll [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheNewRockAndRoll]

238U.

 

[holy_secret]

I think this was really odd... Because if you look at Swedish made movies for children at least in the classic have full frontal child nudity...

Nudity isn't something sexual in Sweden. Hell, I've seen my parents naked so many times I cant even keep track (something Americans for example find to be outrageous).
The problem here is that the underaged girls are being sexualized with their clothes, poses and "battle cries" (see:moans).

 

[Shycte]

Well, if it is against the law then yes. Go for it. It does not have to be nude in order for it to be pornographic.