Rumor: Hackers Crack PS3 Copy Protection
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I'm just so sick to death of of people wreaking the future of my favorite hobby. There's just no reason to hack the ps3 firmware, if you want to homebrew or install custom software, buy a pc and install Linux. Don't open a platform up to pirate leeches!!! Wa*kers!
You know guys this isn't actually a hack it's a leak.
The usb-dongle is the exact same ones they use when developing a game it puts it back into 'factory' mode. AKA this is a leak from within Sony.
This isn't smart this was just plain old thievery! This would be like someone actually taking a Dev-PS3 and selling it and going "Oh hey yeah totally cracked the code" No you didn't you fucking stole that.
I've always sat in the middle of the Piracy debate. On the one hand I understand wallets are just not robust enough to buy EVERYTHING and some people don't want to buy the game only to learn "Sorry it's total shit".
Now Downloading a game and saying "Well I wasn't going to buy it anyway" is just fucking annoying. If you weren't going to buy it then don't download it just like I'm never going to go watch a Twilight movie so I'm not teaching my idiot sister to burn a DVD or lending one of my rewritable DVDs for it (for the record I make BACKUPs I don't pirate)
This is especially wall banging because this is not FILM, with film and music there are a billion ways besides DVD/CD sales to make money, most films make it back in the cinema itself and that's the basis of making a sequel or not. Music gets to go on the radio and Music channels and live shows, actually touring and selling your CDs and merchandise at the gig is your main source of income.
But Video Games? Video Games only have that they are sold to an owner to be used, they may have merchandise but thats stuff like Nintendo. You are stealing the food out of there mouths especially in this day and age. THAT BEING SAID my personal opinion is if a game is not being sold in stores or even in your language OR if the game is for an old console then it starts becoming fair game if still a bit dickish.
The usb-dongle is the exact same ones they use when developing a game it puts it back into 'factory' mode. AKA this is a leak from within Sony.
This isn't smart this was just plain old thievery! This would be like someone actually taking a Dev-PS3 and selling it and going "Oh hey yeah totally cracked the code" No you didn't you fucking stole that.
I've always sat in the middle of the Piracy debate. On the one hand I understand wallets are just not robust enough to buy EVERYTHING and some people don't want to buy the game only to learn "Sorry it's total shit".
Now Downloading a game and saying "Well I wasn't going to buy it anyway" is just fucking annoying. If you weren't going to buy it then don't download it just like I'm never going to go watch a Twilight movie so I'm not teaching my idiot sister to burn a DVD or lending one of my rewritable DVDs for it (for the record I make BACKUPs I don't pirate)
This is especially wall banging because this is not FILM, with film and music there are a billion ways besides DVD/CD sales to make money, most films make it back in the cinema itself and that's the basis of making a sequel or not. Music gets to go on the radio and Music channels and live shows, actually touring and selling your CDs and merchandise at the gig is your main source of income.
But Video Games? Video Games only have that they are sold to an owner to be used, they may have merchandise but thats stuff like Nintendo. You are stealing the food out of there mouths especially in this day and age. THAT BEING SAID my personal opinion is if a game is not being sold in stores or even in your language OR if the game is for an old console then it starts becoming fair game if still a bit dickish.
I bet Sony has had a firmware update ready and waiting for just such an eventuality; it'll download and while you won't see any changes to the system, half the software architecture would be subtly changed and re-encoded: rendering the devices useless...and inadvertently erasing important files, accidentally disabling anything that might conceivably lead to piracy like usb ports, the disc drive, or the video out, and potentially growing a pair of robotic arms: one with a death ray and the other with a credit card reader.
Just to give an update: The usb-dongle creates a backup option in the PS3 menu and allows the user to copy games onto the PS3 harddrive or an external harddrive (unless the game has files which are bigger than 4gb) The manufacturer states that it works with the recent firmware but might not work with updates. I really can't see this mod lasting very long. There are just too many ways in which sony can intervene. For those of you who speak german, here is the link where I got the information from http://www.golem.de/1008/77346.html
Because the that entire idea is a blatant lie to cover up money/powergrabbing?Joe Kilner said:
"Your game is so expensive because PIRATES"
"Your taxes are so high because IMMIGRANTS"
"Your have no privacy because TERRORISTS"
"You are drafted into the army to be shipped to vietnam because COMMUNITSTS"
On topic: I hope homebrew artists find a way to work around the tiny RAM and make something good.
Ah yes, DLC. The boon/bane of games everywhere. I'd like to say that it's certainly a good thing if it increases the replayability of the game, but that's a discussion for another day...Dioxide20 said:
Hey, let's not forget the Dreamcast. All you needed to do was burn a game...ANY sort of protection is better than that.JediMB said:
OT: They say that it can't be used without the specific dongle. IE: Hackers have found the code contained on the dongle but say it doesn't work when they use their own USB thumb drives. Part of me still says it's a hoax. I had visited a website selling these, that said they were sent it on the 19th, yet all their videos were dated the 18th. Who knows.
How did it take this long? Seriously, how is that possible?
Eh, I'm pretty pissed at Sony over the PS3, mine is just collecting dust, and I got it back when it was super expensive at launch.
So yeah, knock yourselves out pirates.
Eh, I'm pretty pissed at Sony over the PS3, mine is just collecting dust, and I got it back when it was super expensive at launch.
So yeah, knock yourselves out pirates.
If it is true, I hope Sony feels really stupid about removing Install Other OS from all the old PS3s, because it doesn't seem to matter to hackers and pirates anymore.
Oh shit that's probably what they'll do isn't it? =PMarter said:
So did you guys forget that developers and publishers have to try and make all the millions of dollars they spent making that game and that's why it's expensive? I mean, right, piracy isn't a problem and blu-ray discs are a little over $2 a disc, so clearly all PS3 games should be $3 right?mad825 said:
You think Sony doesn't know that?Dioxide20 said:
That any of the industry giants don't know that?
They do not make this sort of DRM as a "Final Solution", but rather as a preserving measure for their profits. Sony in particular must be aware of this already, seeing how they can only turn a profit on the PS3 through game license royalties.
You are still quite correct in your statement, I merely mean to clarify the situation; What looks like complete idiocy to us does have some logic behind it in a business sense (Ubisoft's online-only DRM was doomed to failure from the start, but the tech is still there, ready for other potential applications).
The fact that the PS3's software sales were minimally impacted by piracy for this long was a boon for Sony.
Jailbreaking hasn't affected the Iphone app store too much. PC gaming is still here and their revenue went up last year, so how is it that jailbreaking is a problem? Oh wait of course it isn't. I would like to dump my games to my hard drive and not have to get up to get the individual discs especially now that I have moved my PS3 to my computer desk as my new Dell monitor is better than my HDTV. But of course I can't because these corporations are too stupid to just give up on this whole piracy thing since they were never guaranteed a sale in the first place.
Edit: It doesn't help that Sony decided to give people a reason to get into the system with the whole Otheros debacle.
Edit: It doesn't help that Sony decided to give people a reason to get into the system with the whole Otheros debacle.