Rumor: Next Resident Evil is a Tactical Shooter

Dok Zombie

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So basically what's happening is Capcom collectively shat themselves when they realised none of the original fans liked Resi 5, so now rather than make it up to legions of beleaguered and disappointed fans, they're taking the easy way out and repackaging the whole franchise into another bland shooter for the COD brats pocket money. Hell, why not even throw in a couple of HD remakes, easily available on Xbox Live Arcade and PSN, that way the original fans can shell out for one last opportunity to see the gaming franchise they were brought up on in shiny, modern graphics for one last time before it's ruined forever by games looking more and more likely to one day include the voice acting talents of Milla cunting Jokovich.

And before you ask, yes. I AM MAD.
 

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Day ONE purchase. Damn you Capcom!!! No honestly I dont understand what all the bitchin is about either, I liked the old fixed camera, creepy RE's just as much as i like the recent "Got some rare stuff on sale, Stranger" upgrading your sniper rifle RE's. I am happy that they keep trying to see what they can do in the Resident Evil Universe, and not have it limited to "slow walking through creepy environments and constantly running out of bullets while looking for green herbs" (dont' get me wrong, I'm fond of those too). I tend to think though, when the sh*t hit the fan and the outbreak took hold of Raccoon City, there was plenty of running and gunning.
Hell, they can even make a GTA style "Get outta Raccooon city" by anymeans necessary MMO online, where everyone is trying to get one of the few cars available with gas out of the city without it breaking down, or getting carjacked by other survivors.... (wait a sec, lemme write that one down)
I guess it's a good thing I havent been purchasing all the yearly installments of CoD that makes the nay-sayers tired of zombies and machine guns. As for me, I'm all in, and will be up all night.

cursedseishi said:
Could go for a... 4 vs. 8. vs 4 setup (throwing out numbers is all), with the 2 "4"s being the human team and the "8" the infected/zombie team mentioned.
effing Brilliant. That sounds awesome, it would be cool if you could infect the other players too, like in Outbreak.

cgentero said:
but not sure if it will try to be too much like L4D, especially with the ability to play as the BOWs.
RE:Outbreak was first that had you playing infected, so you could say that l4d took the idea from there, depending on how you look at it.

ReturnPostage said:
this is the exact opposite of what I, along with a lot of other fans, were hoping for when Capcom said "reboot". Thanks for another giant disappointment, you sell outs.

My only hope for some scares now is Downpour.
What exactly were you looking for? You know Resident Evil is about conspiracy, biological weaponry, guns, police, and coverups (and monsters and headshots and green herbs). What leaves you disappointed exactly? Protip: you want old school? Sign on PSN And I'll gladly play lost in nightmares with you. I still havent finished that online anyways. you can even do that trick that makes the camera fixed like the days of yore. My PSN name is the same as it is here.

Yeah if you've been looking for "scares" you have been in the wrong series for a LOOOOONG time. Either that or you scare really easy. (although the first time I bumped into one of those guys in Lost in Nightmares, it gave me the shivers). How exactly are they selling out? But yeah I hope SH:Downpour is scary and good as well.

You gotta realize, Capcom does alot with the undead, between their RE and their DR, and I'm hoping someday the two worlds will magically overlap.
 

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Well Resident Evil jumped the shark years ago so why not? Though to be honest it doesn't sound too bad, this one might actually be scary. Like the idea that they are doing and H.D remake of them and I'd be happy if they controlled similar to the new games... Thats one thing I didn't miss about the old games... Terrible tank like controls.

That being said, I don't think Resident Evil as been scary since the third one. Well, not counting the outbreak spin offs which weren't too bad. I hope this new game remembers to be scary. The last few games have been really lacking in that department. Resident Evil 4 might have had one or two scary moments at the most but me'h... The fifth game had one involving the brainlickers and thats about it.

Don't take that the wrong way though, I really liked Resident Evil 5 even if it had continued in jumping the shark. I had a hell of a lot of fun with it and I thought it had plenty of replay value. The co-op also added a good amount of fun to it... However I'd like the games to return to the more survival horror days rather than the arcade adventures.

Speaking of which, Resident Evil: DR as finally hit the PSN for us Brits (and the rest of Europe I think, not sure if we share the same sort of market) so I've bought that to give it a nostalgic whirl. Maybe one day it will catch up with the American marketplace has the lot on and more...
 

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Dansrage said:
Super Duck said:
Dansrage said:
Snip.
NOPE

Did you ever play RE, RE2, RE3, Code Veronica, Outbreak etc?
It's not about running and screaming monsters, the fear you feel in the older games is an IMPENDING fear, it's like modern horror films and 80s horror, shit jumping out at you isn't scary, it's shocking. What is scary is being lost and alone with unmentionable horrors creeping in the shadows.
Having a guy run at me with an axe shouting is not scary, being backed up against a wall with 20 zombies ambling towards me, arms outstretched, as i realise i just used my last bullet is VERY scary.
What are you talking about? The older games were VERY hard, and ammo was very difficult to find on many occasions, you had to be strategic in what guns you used on what enemies and what injuries needed to be treated.
Do i use the 5 magnum rounds on this Licker blocking the hall or do i try to run past him?
Do i use my last green herb on this wound or do i wait and try and combine it?
Should i carry the weapon that does more damage, or the weapon with more ammo?

There is none of that in the TPS RE games, ammo is everywhere, you can freikin' BUY ammo, you get weapons more fitting to Bad Company than Resident Evil, it's an action, not survival horror.
I have played through the original completely, but I've never finished any of the others up to RE4, though I have played a few hours of them. They were just...boring. This is before RE4 came out, mind you, so don't go off about me just being raised on the new versions. Which game were you playing that you were facing down twenty zombies at once? And you seriously ran out of ammo? Did you just shoot at everything that moved? I rarely found the need to kill anything other than the bosses.

Also, I was unaware that you can buy ammo in the TPS RE's. Is that a feature of 5? I know the closest thing to purchasing ammo in RE4 was upgrading your weapon's capacity. I'm sorry, but I just can't get my head around this "being scared by the original RE" thing. It's not even a matter of graphics. Silent Hill's graphics in the beginning weren't all that hot, and those games are far more frightening.
 

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Dansrage said:
ARGH, RAGE.
STOP RUINING IT YOU ASSHOLES

Seriously, ever since RE4 i've been waiting for a return to SURVIVAL HORROR, anyone here remember that term? It's this really, really old and almost forgotten concept where you have to save ammo and health and explore your environment while trying to stay alive against increasingly difficult odds.
I know it sounds really crazy and stupid and outdated, i mean, who could ever imagine guns ever running out of bullets?
Resident Evil is of course about muscled, immortal action heros with unlimited ammunition who plow through waves of wacky monsters while spouting clever quips.
Resident Evil 4 and 5 were brilliant, they even got rid of the whole "Zombies" thing that had been holding the series back!
Now excuse me while i go play this ancient game called Resident Evil 2, it's pretty dumb, you have this overhead view which is really outdated and the zombies don't even run!
FUCKING THIS.

Normally I don't get too ranty on The Escapist, but since I barely ever post here anymore I don't give a fuck if this ends in a flamewar.

It feels to me like we've watched videogaming grow up as a medium and almost reach it's zenith, before being snatched up at the last minute by studios with delusions of Hollywood, who want to churn out this 80's action movie FPS bullshit for the easy money. Fuck this shit, I know it's pathetic and nerdy to get so pissed off about the state of videogames today, but this something I spent most of my life doing and loving, only to see it taken away and repackaged as shallow, flashy, explodey, macho bollocks for the kids that used to bully us for playing games years ago.
 

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Dok Zombie said:
So basically what's happening is Capcom collectively shat themselves when they realised none of the original fans liked Resi 5
Umm. Speak for yourself. I've played 5 online with plenty of your so called "original fans" and we (us original fans) all like 5 quite alot (and they are usually more than happy to tell you how familiar they are with RE, and their personal history with the series, even if you didnt ask them, and no matter how much you DONT really want to hear it - come to think of it, I've probably done that a couple times too). So I'm not sure you can rely on your sources to give you accurate information.

And I've bought just about every incarnation of resident evil, including the gun survivors series. I havent gotten all the Wii on-rail shooters though.
 

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Azure Sky said:
shadowform said:
...you know what?

If they made an FPS game with RE's limited ammo, a basic inventory system (for ammo, weapons, and restoratives), and set the whole thing in the moodier, more atmospheric, somewhat slower paced game style the first few RE games had, I'd probably buy it. It sounds like Dead Space without the tension-stripping violins every time a monster pops up nearby.

That, and watching a corpse slowly bleed out until you're absolutely SURE that it's dead with modern gen graphics sounds like it could be a really tense experience.
This.

I was actually thinking something along those lines last night actually.
More a Resident Evil: Outbreak cross L4D, With the heavier emphasis on RE:O.
Sweet Mary no. Not First person perspective for Godssakes
 

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Spookimitsu said:
Dok Zombie said:
So basically what's happening is Capcom collectively shat themselves when they realised none of the original fans liked Resi 5
Umm. Speak for yourself. I've played 5 online with plenty of your so called "original fans" and we (us original fans) all like 5 quite alot (and they are usually more than happy to tell you how familiar they are with RE, and their personal history with the series, even if you didnt ask them, and no matter how much you DONT really want to hear it - come to think of it, I've probably done that a couple times too). So I'm not sure you can rely on your sources to give you accurate information.

And I've bought just about every incarnation of resident evil, including the gun survivors series. I havent gotten all the Wii on-rail shooters though.
How did I know this would turn into an "I played more of the old old shit than you" dick swinging contest.
 

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Dok Zombie said:
So basically what's happening is Capcom collectively shat themselves when they realised none of the original fans liked Resi 5
-shyly holds his hand up in the air- I'm an original Res Evil fan who likes Resi 5....
 

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Why does the guy named Vector have a cloaking ability, and not the guy (or possibly girl) named Spectre? Also, I hope this goes to PC and is a decent Left 4 Dead: Resident Evil edition. That's really all I can hope for.
 

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Spookimitsu said:
Azure Sky said:
shadowform said:
...you know what?

If they made an FPS game with RE's limited ammo, a basic inventory system (for ammo, weapons, and restoratives), and set the whole thing in the moodier, more atmospheric, somewhat slower paced game style the first few RE games had, I'd probably buy it. It sounds like Dead Space without the tension-stripping violins every time a monster pops up nearby.

That, and watching a corpse slowly bleed out until you're absolutely SURE that it's dead with modern gen graphics sounds like it could be a really tense experience.
This.

I was actually thinking something along those lines last night actually.
More a Resident Evil: Outbreak cross L4D, With the heavier emphasis on RE:O.
Sweet Mary no. Not First person perspective for Godssakes
It could work, if done right.
First person has the potential to be a far better mood-setter than fixed-cameras and third person. The lack of resources, combined with a more restrictive viewpoint (eye-level) can be made to enhance the feeling that you almost helpless in the given setting, it can make you feel small if you will.

Keep in mind, I think that 4 and 5 are the biggest failures in the series as they are no longer a survival horror, they are an action shooter. They almost have more in common with CoD than RE games.
People jumping out at you with axes and chainsaws is not scary, it is startling.
Especially if you have an arsenal as big as most FPS titles, as well as enough ammo to capsize a freight tanker.
 

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Dok Zombie said:
How did I know this would turn into an "I played more of the old old shit than you" dick swinging contest.
call it what you want, no one told you to make an uninformed blanket statement as you did. Are you trying now to hide the fact that you said something stupid, by insulting our opposite opinions as nothing more than (let's see... what did you call it...) Oh yeah a "dick swinging contest."

I never said I've played more than you, and I couldnt give a shit if I did or you did. What I'm trying to say is this, I'm one of those classic fans you are misrepresenting to try to make a point. Are we now moving away from discussion to mindless dribble because we disagree?
 

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Perhaps I was alone in thinking that RE5 wasn't bad. What is wrong with continuing the line of games we have? Why backtrack at this point?

I really wanted to see a game where Chris and Leon would be reunited and have to take down a threat together.

And are we just throwing any sense of urgency or horror out of the window? I don't want to play as a biological monster. The best about about the RE series is when a big scary monster pops out and you have to kill it. Being a monster would just make all other monster appearances seem... lame.

Maybe I'm just being cynical. Oh well. I won't totally damn the game before it comes out, but color me skeptical until more information, screenshots and gameplay videos come out.
 

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The Floating Nose said:
Is this some kind of fucking joke ??? That's a terrible idea ! I've read that they are doing some HD remakes...it can be interesting but they better not change the gameplay of the good old Resident Evil (i am boycotting this fucking series if they change resident evil 2 & 3 to be like the 4th and 5th). It's like if the people at CAPCOM are out of their fucking minds WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THEM ???
Wesker is using them to spread the S-Virus. The virus that turns every game franchise into a shooter. He wants to turn everyone into zombies.