Rumor: PC Features Cut From Dragon Age 2
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Sounds like exactly what I was about to sayMornelithe said:Sounds like a game I won't be buying then
Orcus_35 said:
Serious, PC elitists need to stop bitching. Consoles sell more, and companies exist to MAKE MONEY. Let me reiterate, these are companies who need to MAKE MONEY. Considering that so many companies have recently lost money, they need to do that more than ever. Ergo, they go where the consumers are.Khaiseri said:
It isn't greed, it's complete sense. If you were clever, you as the director of a company would do the same thing. If you wouldn't, then please never run a business, you'll probably bankrupt yourself.
Because "back in the day" games didn't cost millions and millions of dollars to create. Also, read above.matt87_50 said:
I'm willing to see where it goes. I own both the PS3 version and the PC version. Yes, I enjoy a few of the mods, but there's only one or two I really couldn't "live without" (the one that lets you skip the Into the Fade quest during the Circle Tower. It was bloody annoying, especially if your character was specced more for group support; and the one that let's you respec, but the latter seems to have been fixed with Awakening).
DA:O made more money selling on consoles. Plain and simple. They are a for-profit company, so listening to the players, and catering to the clear majority, is going to be how they operate.
It also sounds like the lack of modding is more of a technical issue than a jackass one. Calm down and see what happens.
DA:O made more money selling on consoles. Plain and simple. They are a for-profit company, so listening to the players, and catering to the clear majority, is going to be how they operate.
It also sounds like the lack of modding is more of a technical issue than a jackass one. Calm down and see what happens.
They're still keeping the overhead view, and as long as they do that then I'll be happy with the gameplay. Still not thrilled about the fixed PC, but I can live with that.
As for mods, we'll still have them - even games that don't come out with toolsets get mods, just not as many. It does suck, but there are plenty of people complaining that DA's toolset is too complicated to use, so it's not like we've seen anything near the scale of what NWN had.
As for mods, we'll still have them - even games that don't come out with toolsets get mods, just not as many. It does suck, but there are plenty of people complaining that DA's toolset is too complicated to use, so it's not like we've seen anything near the scale of what NWN had.
Not really excited about this game, Dragon Age: Origins lacked a certain something to make it a truly excellent game. Which is what I've come to expect out of Bioware, I played through Origins but at the end was disappointed with the overall gameplay experience.
How can a sequel deviate so much from the original? I don't think that since Super Mario Brothers has there been such a big change from the first game to the second.
Heh, I wonder if (and when) the tables are turned will the console gamers be so stoic about the issue.
When the new upstart takes titles from your prefered platform, and leaves you with a half done product...
... but that merely fans the flames, just remember that the console wars and the PC have be fought before.
Not that long ago the PC wasnt any good for much bar Leisure Suit Larry and Falcon flight sims, till a few titles changed the idea of the PC and gaming.
Also dont forget my console friends, you guys have a serious threat too... in the form of 'social gaming' and ' casual market gamers '. You may find you GoW (both titles) replaced with Farmville and Bejeweled clones as they are very lucrative.
When the new upstart takes titles from your prefered platform, and leaves you with a half done product...
... but that merely fans the flames, just remember that the console wars and the PC have be fought before.
Not that long ago the PC wasnt any good for much bar Leisure Suit Larry and Falcon flight sims, till a few titles changed the idea of the PC and gaming.
Also dont forget my console friends, you guys have a serious threat too... in the form of 'social gaming' and ' casual market gamers '. You may find you GoW (both titles) replaced with Farmville and Bejeweled clones as they are very lucrative.
The mod thing doesn't really affect me cuz...well I frankly didn't even know DA:O had mods. And i actually kinda wish that they would make the game more 3rd person friendly on the PC, because I feel really disconnected from my characters with the aerial view...
So far it's become pretty clear that Bioware wants to cut all ties with the Infinity engine style games of their past, and are pretty unapologetic about it, having said in a recent Game Informer article that they didn't want to feel constrained by older properties. That's a slightly more delicate way of saying they really don't want to be making RPGs in the classic mold anymore, but it's definitely where they're headed.
Their design decisions are such that they're trying to see just how much choice and character customization they can do away with before people start to complain too much, so that they can just work on providing an extremely polished set of more limited content. Does it really matter all that much, in the end, what character class you decide to play in DA? For that matter, Mass Effect 1 and 2 plays out pretty much exactly the same no matter what choices you pick in character generation, so they've just tightened it up and taken that illusion of choice away from you, so that you're pretty much just playing through an elaborate FPS with a pick your own adventure storyline.
It used to be that RPGs were more about the gameplay mechanics and the story, and Bioware has tried to extricate the story from the shackles of the mechanics, but to a lot of people the mechanics are the genre.
Their design decisions are such that they're trying to see just how much choice and character customization they can do away with before people start to complain too much, so that they can just work on providing an extremely polished set of more limited content. Does it really matter all that much, in the end, what character class you decide to play in DA? For that matter, Mass Effect 1 and 2 plays out pretty much exactly the same no matter what choices you pick in character generation, so they've just tightened it up and taken that illusion of choice away from you, so that you're pretty much just playing through an elaborate FPS with a pick your own adventure storyline.
It used to be that RPGs were more about the gameplay mechanics and the story, and Bioware has tried to extricate the story from the shackles of the mechanics, but to a lot of people the mechanics are the genre.
Yep. Should motion controls take hold of consoles, the resulting tide of shovelware should mean that PCs will return to their former glory (or at least the consoles will be barren wastelands).unabomberman said:
This is just wrong. Here was I, thinking BioWare were good. First they hit us with the Dragon Age dev tools, which were amazing, then they started rolling in those ridiculous DLC, but I said, hey, "We have free tools and we get mods, that's awesome". Then Mass Effect 2 came out with pretty much everything simplified and again they hit us with that DLC crap, but still, I and most of the fanbase went "Hey, why not, they have to make more profit somehow", and now they do this. I'm drifting away from being a fanboy, to openly hating BioWare.
*sigh* Lads, it looks like we only have Blizzard and Valve left.
*sigh* Lads, it looks like we only have Blizzard and Valve left.
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr256/JWALLBANGER/ohyeah.jpgFurburt said:
Sorry, had to.
OT: So, either the one guy was wrong when he said those things to the French magazine, or the PR guy is lying his ass off, OR the outrage caused by this decided to make them change their minds (I hope it's that last one).
Honestly, I'm still going to get this, and most of you saying "lol do not want" are probably going to get it, too.
I hated mass effect. Now they are going to make me hate Dragon Age.
Well at least I'm in Cataclysm beta.
Well at least I'm in Cataclysm beta.
*resists intense urge to defend Mass Effect 2*The_Prophet said:
I am curious though, why do you HATE Bioware. In what you said, I can't see anything that would deserve that kind of ire.