Rumor: Plot for Star Wars 7 Leaks Out

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Rumor: Plot for Star Wars 7 Leaks Out


Potential spoilers within where it talks about Star Wars: Episode VII's plot and what the characters are up to.

While the plot for J.J. Abrams' Star Wars: Episode VII has been kept under lock and key from the public, could we finally have the first plot details leak out? In a report by the normally reputable Badass Digest, the site claims it has the general premise of the upcoming seventh entry to the Star Wars film franchise. Keep in mind that even if what you'll be reading has not been confirmed and should be treated as a rumor, there's a chance that this could all be legit. So best to consider some of the details as potential spoilers.

Just so nothing will be lost in translation, since the site's report on the plot tried its best to be very basic and not go into anything specific, we've included the plot details as is.

On how Star Wars: Episode VII will start out:


Imagine the standard Star Wars crawl, and when it ends the camera pans up to the stars. But instead of a spaceship zooming into frame we see... a hand! A severed hand, tumbling through space. A severed hand gripping a light saber.

That hand falls onto a desert planet, where it is discovered by characters who will be our heroes. One is Daisy Ridley. The other is John Boyega, who is playing someone trying to change his path in life (again, I'm keeping it vague here). They recognize the light saber as a Jedi relic and decide to return it to the proper people.

It's said that on their quest, they then meet Han Solo and Chewbacca who recognize the lightsaber as belonging to someone they know.


Their quest takes them off world, and they meet up with Han Solo and Chewbacca, who aren't flying around in the Millenium Falcon anymore but are piloting... well, that could be a spoiler. I'll leave it. Anyway, Han and Chewie recognize the light saber as Luke's, and they say they haven't seen their friend in thirty years, since the events of Return of the Jedi.

So begins a quest to find the missing Jedi Master. Meanwhile, on an ice planet, nefarious forces are building a super weapon, one capable of destroying not planets but entire solar systems...

According to the report, it says the plot of Episode VII is an "echo" of A New Hope, with the basic "sweep" of the story being similar and intentionally made that way. However, it does add that fans shouldn't assume that every " every ice or desert planet in the galaxy has already been visited." Supposedly, this is just the broadest of outlines, but it's said that they're hearing "extremely positive things about the action, and very, very good things about the characters themselves."

In other Star Wars: Episode VII rumors, don't forget that just last month, we reported that the movie's villains will be called "Jedi Hunters," [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/135494-Report-Star-Wars-Episode-VII-Villains-to-be-Known-as-Jedi-Hunters] who are said to worship the Sith and are working to bring them back. Could this really be the plot for Star Wars: Episode VII? What do you make of it so far?

Source: Badass Digest [http://badassdigest.com/2014/07/20/exclusive-star-wars-episode-vii-plot-details-revealed/]

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...That sounds so bad.

No, for real.

Granted it's not much, but if what we see here is the summary of the overall plot, is it REALLY the best they could come up with?

Ugh, should have gone with Thrawn.
 

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Wait, they find the severed hand of luke? Really? A hand went from a gas giant to space and then somehow survived the re-entry? Presumably to tatooine because hollywood has no original ideas left? Neither of those planets are anywhere near each other, by the time the hand stumbles there everyone will be long dead. Even a planet right next to each other would take a lot of time and a lot of luck.

This plot sounds awful, so awful it must be a parody.
 

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It's all marketing. The odds are against the movie being good in the first place because... the hype the marketing department keeps stoking is just going to make people hate it.
 

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Yeahhhh.... no. I'll doubt that with some gusto, just because it sounds too much like bad fanfic (is there good fanfic? I don't know and don't really want to know). If it is in any way related to the actual movie, it sounds like a nebulous first draft rather than a final copy so, yeah.
Hell, who knows, maybe thats what George Lucas was going to do before he realized he was going to have a mob of fake-lightsaber wielding fans show up like a torch mob at his ranch because they finally had enough of his bullshit.
 

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Oh Jesus, they're doing the super weapon race the post Return of the Jedi Expanded Universe was plagued by, only a matter of time before we get the Sun Crusher

Really hoping this isn't the actual movie plot, it's dumb, dumb, dumb
 

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So Star Wars is going to be a buddy road-trip movie? I'd be okay with that if it centered around Han and Chewie having adventures rather than two people we know nothing about.

And this bit sounds a bit dumb:

Their quest takes them off world, and they meet up with Han Solo and Chewbacca, who aren't flying around in the Millenium Falcon anymore but are piloting... well, that could be a spoiler.
Piloting something other than their iconic space bucket? The only thing that would be kind of fun to see them pilot is the bloody Death Star.
 

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That sounds pretty fucking rubbish.

Also I burst out laughing at a disembodied hand somehow surviving reentry into a planet's atmosphere.
 

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So the villains got their hands on Lucifer's cannon? *reference no-one will get*

Ultratwinkie said:
Wait, they find the severed hand of luke? Really? A hand went from a gas giant to space and then somehow survived the re-entry? Presumably to tatooine because hollywood has no original ideas left? Neither of those planets are anywhere near each other, by the time the hand stumbles there everyone will be long dead. Even a planet right next to each other would take a lot of time and a lot of luck.

This plot sounds awful, so awful it must be a parody.
Hey he has two hands, maybe it was his other one.
 

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Hey he has two hands, maybe it was his other one.
Luke has so much trouble keeping his lightsaber hand attached lol

Losing it twice now.
 

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If this remour is real then so far I have an "meh" reaction. Also I take it the lightsaber is the green one that Luke make himself?
 

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Why would anyone read it? Seriously, either you don't give a fuck about Star Wars, in which case you don't care, or you are interested in it, in which case you only stand to lose by reading any of it. I don't get people sometimes...
 

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Why would anyone read it? Seriously, either you don't give a fuck about Star Wars, in which case you don't care, or you are interested in it, in which case you only stand to lose by reading any of it. I don't get people sometimes...
It's not that detailed. It's just the premise. Though I have gained somewhat, because should this be true, I can excpect nothing but dissapointment and have the potential to be pleasently surprised.

EDIT: "Spoilers" discussed further below in this post, avert your eyes if you don't want to see.

Dominic Crossman said:
I swear people preemptively hate on movies just so they can feel smug if they're crap.
The only big movie that's coming up that doesn't seem to suffer from this is Guardians of the Galaxy (probably because it's from Marvel)

I understand people don't want to get their hopes up but it is getting to point where the things people hate on contradict each other. Like having old characters appear is stupid because they're old and having new characters is shit because they're not established.

Somethings got to give people. Now let the hate begin because I missed some point.
Well nobodies complained about the new characters in this thread yet. Plus different people like /different/ things, why would the complaints be completely uniform for something like this? It's not like the same people are complaining about new and old characters.

No my issue is...the premise sounds dodgy as all hell if this turns out to be true. Luke losing his hand again? Why? He lost it in Empire to draw parellels between him and Vader, Anakin lost it in the prequals for the (unnecessary) reason of hammering in a parellel between Anakin and Luke, before they diverge character wise.

The hand going through whatever took it off, space, and then the atmosphere is bollocks. A desert planet, ooh how original. I wonder if it's Tatooine? Even if it isn't, it's a bad idea, there's no reason to echo beats of the plot from the 2 other trilogies. Especially not if it leads them into meeeting Han and Chewbacca, it just sounds lazy.
 

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I swear people preemptively hate on movies just so they can feel smug if they're crap.
The only big movie that's coming up that doesn't seem to suffer from this is Guardians of the Galaxy (probably because it's from Marvel)

I understand people don't want to get their hopes up but it is getting to point where the things people hate on contradict each other. Like having old characters appear is stupid because they're old and having new characters is shit because they're not established.

Edit: But I never see the opposite (personally), such as someone praising the inclusion of old characters or how new characters keep it fresh for instance. People do read different sites to each other however so I might of just missed it, like some might not have seen certain complaints.

Somethings got to give people. Now let the hate begin because I missed some point.
 

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As soon as the hand in space lands on planet line came up. I started head butting a wall. Rally? That shit won't fly even if your five feking years old! This hogwash can not be real.
 

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luvd1 said:
As soon as the hand in space lands on planet line came up. I started head butting a wall. Rally? That shit won't fly even if your five feking years old! This hogwash can not be real.
This is from the same person who gave us "alternate universe Spock" in the very first movie, so I'm not exactly surprised if it turns out to be true
 

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This doesn't surprise me in the least. J J Abrams relies heavily on established tropes, call-backs and iconography for movies he make with established franchises. Even his film Super 8 was essentially his best attempt to mimic 80s SciFi Spielberg.

So of course the story will have the same basic structure and beats from New Hope. Abrams isn't an innovator. He's just really good at boiling down everything into its key components and presenting them in a decent way so long as you're willing to not dwell too much upon the how or why. Also, something, something lens flares.
 

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I just threw up in my mouth a little. Everything about this is setting off red flags for me. Just no. Final judgement will be given when it comes out, but for now I'm going for this is most likely going to be shit.
 

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it just sounds lazy.
That's mostly the vibe I get yes. It all seems like re-treading old ground again. I'm not going to go rage all about it, but it's not the most optimistic premise either. Abrams being the nostalgia fan he is, we shouldn't be really surprised. Ah well, well see.
 

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SNCommand said:
luvd1 said:
As soon as the hand in space lands on planet line came up. I started head butting a wall. Rally? That shit won't fly even if your five feking years old! This hogwash can not be real.
This is from the same person who gave us "alternate universe Spock" in the very first movie, so I'm not exactly surprised if it turns out to be true
Shit, what if this hand is from an alternate universe where Luke turned to the dark side? It will be like the Emperor except it can only communicate through space sign language. Then the final battle will be between Darth Hand and Luke's other hand that gets chopped off in Episode VII for some reason (space toast buttering accident?). Let the terrible CGI and lens flares commence!
 

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LOL this had to be a joke. Their are massive plot holes all over just the premise of the opening. For example can we assume its the same hand from Empire Strikes Back? If so how did the hand get into space? Or does Luke just have a habit of getting his hand lopped off? Also how did the hand survive reentry to a planet? Why is the husband of rebel hero that is also a high ranking noble still gallivanting around the galaxy as a smuggler? And seriously a solar system destroying super weapon? That just stinks of dumb and trying to out do the original trilogy when most people acknowledge that the Death Stars were silly weapons in the first place. And than the names granted, Luke is a common name but the rest of the names in the universe tend to not be modern generic names. John and Daisy... and since its probably Tatooin they're on, get the hell off that planet. JJ Abrahms don't just rehash the worst elements of the original trilogy and the prequels.
 

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It's like somebody mixed The Glove of Darth Vader with the Sun Crusher plot of the Jedi Academy Trilogy. This is a bad thing.
 

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What rubs me the wrong way is the "Hasn't seen Luke since the end of the last movie" part. Why? He was in love with the guy's sister, they were best friends and were working in the same alliance. Is the movie going to pretend that the Star Wars-universe literally just stopped for 30 years, before Luke's severed magic hand drops from the sky and two craaaa-zy characters go on an "adventure". The problem with this is, it goes against every expanded universe story, game, spin-off and book that has attempted to make the Universe feel like a real living, breathing place.
 

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Yeah, how does anyone expect to believe that a hand could survive re-entry? You know, in a universe where...

Where magic users use magic to keep lasers from coming more than a couple hundred cm out of their LASERSWORDS.

All planets consist of only one biome.

A gaseous fuel source allows spaceships to travel outside of reality to circumvent the speed of light.

Laserblasts somehow travel slower than the speed of light and somehow can be dodged.

And so on...

Sheesh, learn how to suspend disbelief. At least they tried to "explain" the force with the microscopic parasites. Everyone loved when they did that right?

I kid, it does sound pretty dumb.
 

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CriticalMiss said:
And this bit sounds a bit dumb:

Their quest takes them off world, and they meet up with Han Solo and Chewbacca, who aren't flying around in the Millenium Falcon anymore but are piloting... well, that could be a spoiler.
Piloting something other than their iconic space bucket? The only thing that would be kind of fun to see them pilot is the bloody Death Star.
we already know the Millenium Falcon is in the movie.

its a full scale physical set at Pinewood.

Kevin Smith has been on it...

JJ has posted "accidental" pictures of the chess table...

as such this sounds a bit more than "dumb"...

and the hand ?...imo this is a clear allusion to the fate of Lukes hand from Empire



and NOT something somehow related to a new happening...because lets face it...that would be really fucking stoooopid ("poor kids got no luck with hands eh ?...")...and its my belief that this supposed script is probably little more than "fan fiction" at worst or a junked script that predates the one shooting now at best...maybe even something from Lucases scribblings...

but i dont think there's much truth in this particular rumor...the falcon aspect just flags it as bullshit as far as i'm concerned.
 

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Scorpid said:
LOL this had to be a joke. Their are massive plot holes all over just the premise of the opening. For example can we assume its the same hand from Empire Strikes Back? If so how did the hand get into space? Or does Luke just have a habit of getting his hand lopped off? Also how did the hand survive reentry to a planet? Why is the husband of rebel hero that is also a high ranking noble still gallivanting around the galaxy as a smuggler? And seriously a solar system destroying super weapon? That just stinks of dumb and trying to out do the original trilogy when most people acknowledge that the Death Stars were silly weapons in the first place. And than the names granted, Luke is a common name but the rest of the names in the universe tend to not be modern generic names. John and Daisy... and since its probably Tatooin they're on, get the hell off that planet. JJ Abrahms don't just rehash the worst elements of the original trilogy and the prequels.
John and Daisy are the actors' names. No one outside of the film's production knows what their characters' names are yet.

From the author of the scoop, Devin Faraci, on Twitter:

Also, I'm not sure why people are so convinced my scoop ties into EMPIRE at all. That is never stated. And doesn't make much sense.

— Devin Faraci (@devincf) July 20, 2014 [https://twitter.com/devincf/statuses/490967677087657984]


One other thing: what if the object's origin is SUPPOSED TO BE THE DRIVING MYSTERY OF THE MOVIE? This isn't rocket science.

— Devin Faraci (@devincf) July 20, 2014 [https://twitter.com/devincf/statuses/490968847462064128]


"How did it get there? Where did it come from? This makes no sense!" Yes, you have identified the plot driver. Congrats.

— Devin Faraci (@devincf) July 20, 2014 [https://twitter.com/devincf/statuses/490969374547644416]

In other words, yelling about plot holes in a movie that we have not seen a second of footage from and know a suggestion of a premise is incredibly premature. We shouldn't be so quick to assume things. Yes, the lightsaber is Luke's, but does that mean it is Luke's hand? What if someone took it from him, then lost THEIR hand? Very possible. Yeah, why IS Han still gallivanting around the galaxy? Maybe he and Leia didn't work out. Maybe he has an official mission of some kind. We just don't know, so complaining about it now simply doesn't fly.

Kyrian007 said:
Yeah, how does anyone expect to believe that a hand could survive re-entry? You know, in a universe where...

Where magic users use magic to keep lasers from coming more than a couple hundred cm out of their LASERSWORDS.

All planets consist of only one biome.

A gaseous fuel source allows spaceships to travel outside of reality to circumvent the speed of light.

Laserblasts somehow travel slower than the speed of light and somehow can be dodged.

And so on...

Sheesh, learn how to suspend disbelief. At least they tried to "explain" the force with the microscopic parasites. Everyone loved when they did that right?

I kid, it does sound pretty dumb.
Took the words right out of my mouth. I'm not exactly relying on scientific accuracy from Star Wars.
 

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CriticalMiss said:
And this bit sounds a bit dumb:

Their quest takes them off world, and they meet up with Han Solo and Chewbacca, who aren't flying around in the Millenium Falcon anymore but are piloting... well, that could be a spoiler.
Piloting something other than their iconic space bucket? The only thing that would be kind of fun to see them pilot is the bloody Death Star.
we already know the Millenium Falcon is in the movie.

its a full scale physical set at Pinewood.

Kevin Smith has been on it...

JJ has posted "accidental" pictures of the chess table...

as such this sounds a bit more than "dumb"...
He said that they do not START OUT in the Falcon. He never said the Falcon is not in the movie. They probably reacquire it about halfway through.
 

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This sounds like the beginning of a really awful fanfic.

But, oh well, I don't care. I don't have even the slightest hope that these movies will be any good. There's not a single movie from Abrams I liked that much. Maybe Lost and Fringe were okay in the beginning but his movies? Super 8 was a nice throwback, but the rest was kind of dull.
 

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CriticalMiss said:
SNCommand said:
luvd1 said:
As soon as the hand in space lands on planet line came up. I started head butting a wall. Rally? That shit won't fly even if your five feking years old! This hogwash can not be real.
This is from the same person who gave us "alternate universe Spock" in the very first movie, so I'm not exactly surprised if it turns out to be true
Shit, what if this hand is from an alternate universe where Luke turned to the dark side? It will be like the Emperor except it can only communicate through space sign language. Then the final battle will be between Darth Hand and Luke's other hand that gets chopped off in Episode VII for some reason (space toast buttering accident?). Let the terrible CGI and lens flares commence!
...That statement is so beautiful and full of win, I want to print it out and marry it. Thank you for brightening my day. :)

OT: A severed hand floating in outer space? What is this, Dead Space? Or is Space Oprah just giving out severed hands for no reason? "YOU get a severed hand, and YOU get a severed hand! Every! Body! Gets! A! Severed! HAAAAAAND!"

Also, unless the ship they're piloting is some royal cruiser they got from Leia, there's probably no good reason to dump the Millennium Falcon. Seriously, how is the type of ship a spoiler in and of itself? ...Can't be an X-Wing: too small. An A-Wing (or whatever the Emperor's ship Luke used at the end of Return called)? Luke could've just given it to Han after he was done with it...Would he?

Yeah, this may be a small snippet of what might be in Episode 7, but if it's at all indicative of the final product, then I might just skip on this. Or at least wait for the reviews to start coming in.
 

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SNCommand said:
Oh Jesus, they're doing the super weapon race the post Return of the Jedi Expanded Universe was plagued by, only a matter of time before we get the Sun Crusher

Really hoping this isn't the actual movie plot, it's dumb, dumb, dumb
You mean like in the synopsis we already have?

Alex Co said:
Their quest takes them off world, and they meet up with Han Solo and Chewbacca, who aren't flying around in the Millenium Falcon anymore but are piloting... well, that could be a spoiler. I'll leave it. Anyway, Han and Chewie recognize the light saber as Luke's, and they say they haven't seen their friend in thirty years, since the events of Return of the Jedi.

So begins a quest to find the missing Jedi Master. Meanwhile, on an ice planet, nefarious forces are building a super weapon, one capable of destroying not planets but entire solar systems...
 

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I want this to be true. I will make SPACE HAAAAAAAAND jokes for the rest of my life if it's true. Which probably won't be long, because I'm sure if I keep saying "SPACE HAAAAAND!" someone will kill me.

Ultratwinkie said:
Wait, they find the severed hand of luke? Really? A hand went from a gas giant to space and then somehow survived the re-entry?
It's a little known fact, but most of a Jedi's power is derived from his hands. That's where the term "disarmed" comes from. Anakin was so strong with the Force that losing both his hands didn't stop him, but you'll notice Mace Windu was screwed.

Oh, hey, that's it! They say the hand belongs to someone they know, but there's some mystery here apparently. Maybe it's Vader's hand, and it found its way to a desert planet when the Death Star exploded! Sith cybernetics are well known for withstanding re-entry.

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and the hand ?...imo this is a clear allusion to the fate of Lukes hand from Empire
It's not an allusion. It's clearly Luke's hand. It's a Jedi hand that fell from space that Han and Chewie recognise. I mean, literally, what else would it be? There's not much in the way of ambiguity here. There's no need for an "IMO." This is clear to pretty much anyone who's watched Empire.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Sleekit said:
and the hand ?...imo this is a clear allusion to the fate of Lukes hand from Empire
It's not an allusion. It's clearly Luke's hand. It's a Jedi hand that fell from space that Han and Chewie recognise. I mean, literally, what else would it be? There's not much in the way of ambiguity here. There's no need for an "IMO." This is clear to pretty much anyone who's watched Empire.
it's there because for some reason this forum makes me over cautious so i stick in loads of caveats.

wonder why that might be hmmm.....

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Ugh, why does everything have to go back to the Jedi? The Extended Universe at least kept the Jedi stuff interesting a lot of the time by not deifying them, but thats exactly what Lucas did in the prequels, and it'll probably pan out into the sequel trilogy. Why did we get rid of Thrawn for a plot copying major elements of the KOTOR games? Just give us the blue guy back and you'll be quite happy, Disney.

Also, John and Daisy? Fucking what? You gave one of the characters the most fucking common male name in the United States and named the other after a flower that might not even exist in the universe? Come on, at least give them uncommon names. I feel like they just looked out the window and went "Hey, thats Juan, tending the daisies in the garden! Gasp, thats it, a stroke of genius!"[footnote]That bit might be a teensy smudge racist.[/footnote]

Ultratwinkie said:
Wait, they find the severed hand of luke? Really? A hand went from a gas giant to space and then somehow survived the re-entry? Presumably to tatooine because hollywood has no original ideas left? Neither of those planets are anywhere near each other, by the time the hand stumbles there everyone will be long dead. Even a planet right next to each other would take a lot of time and a lot of luck.

This plot sounds awful, so awful it must be a parody.
Could've been his prosthetic hand, which is the one he uses to hold his lightsaber.
 

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Also, John and Daisy? Fucking what? You gave one of the characters the most fucking common male name in the United States and named the other after a flower that might not even exist in the universe? Come on, at least give them uncommon names. I feel like they just looked out the window and went "Hey, thats Juan, tending the daisies in the garden! Gasp, thats it, a stroke of genius!"
John Boyega and Daisy Ridley are the actors playing the two leads of the film. Those are NOT the characters' names.

I know I'm being "that guy" about this particular point, and I apologize, but it's bothering me that multiple people have this misconception.

Alex Co said:
The other is John Boyega, who is playing someone trying to change his path in life (again, I'm keeping it vague here). They recognize the light saber as a Jedi relic and decide to return it to the proper people.
 

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An A-Wing (or whatever the Emperor's ship Luke used at the end of Return called)?
That's a Lambda-class shuttle. The A-Wing is the fighter that guy crashes into the Super Star Destroyer which takes it out.
 

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I hope Daisy Ridley the actress is that pteranodon boss from metroid so that we can at least have a cool dinosaur.

Right now, all this movie needs is a wacky animal sideki- STAY IN YOUR CAGE, JAR-JAR!

"It's scooby doo and the mystery of the missing hand with special guest stars han solo and chewbacca!"
 

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Sleekit said:
it's there because for some reason this forum makes me over cautious so i stick in loads of caveats.

wonder why that might be hmmm.....

-.-
Come to think of it, that's more than fair.
 

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I was hoping for something related to the extended universe books. This sounds less than promising. Since this is a leak, I'm hoping that it's some kind of hoax/untruth and that we get something better.
 

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John Boyega and Daisy Ridley are the actors playing the two leads of the film. Those are NOT the characters' names.

I know I'm being "that guy" about this particular point, and I apologize, but it's bothering me that multiple people have this misconception.
Its cool. Its actually rather placating that it hasn't gone full-derp and even abandoned the strange names that is practically a hallmark of the Star Wars franchise.
 

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Ok, why not use the Thrawn trilogy and make an evil clone of Lukes hand? at least these books are really awesome. Also, why should Han not see Luke for over 30 Years??? Abandoning the old expended universe was really really bollocks. So i guess Han never had children with Lea now, even so that would be a good plot point for a later generation. I hope this leak is false because it sounds really bad as a story. Indiana Han raiders of the lost Hand.
 

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I gotta say the idea of developing a doomsday device that destroys solar systems sounds awful, hopefully by the time we will hit episode IX they will develop a weapon that can destroy galaxies, stakes will be high indeed.

Also that severed hand can belong to Darth Vader! I'm sensing a plot twist! also Jar Jar will be the main villain.
 

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Oh Jesus, they're doing the super weapon race the post Return of the Jedi Expanded Universe was plagued by, only a matter of time before we get the Sun Crusher

Really hoping this isn't the actual movie plot, it's dumb, dumb, dumb
It actually sounds like they're starting with the Sun Crusher. Note how they explicitly made mention that the bad guys have a super weapon that can destroy entire star systems.

As for the plot itself: It sounds retarded. I've read multiple fan works with substantially better premises as a continuation from RotJ. I've never expected much from this production, but this really does seem to be scraping the bottom of the barrel. It's getting really hard to try and keep an open mind about this movie.
 

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PortalThinker113 said:
John Boyega and Daisy Ridley are the actors playing the two leads of the film. Those are NOT the characters' names.

I know I'm being "that guy" about this particular point, and I apologize, but it's bothering me that multiple people have this misconception.
Its cool. Its actually rather placating that it hasn't gone full-derp and even abandoned the strange names that is practically a hallmark of the Star Wars franchise.
Oh, of course. Bizarre names are Star Wars tradition. If the writers can come up with something goofier than "Count Dooku," I will be very pleased.
 

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Piloting something other than their iconic space bucket? The only thing that would be kind of fun to see them pilot is the bloody Death Star.
"Hit it Chewie"
"NNnnnnngarrrrrr!"
"No not that butto-"

*BOOM*

"Oh well. I never liked that planet anyway."

Otherwise this sounds pretty bad, and it sounds like Tatooine again.
Why is it that Star Wars always appears to have more storylines based in a desert than Dune?!?
 

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LOL this had to be a joke. Their are massive plot holes all over just the premise of the opening. For example can we assume its the same hand from Empire Strikes Back? If so how did the hand get into space? Or does Luke just have a habit of getting his hand lopped off? Also how did the hand survive reentry to a planet? Why is the husband of rebel hero that is also a high ranking noble still gallivanting around the galaxy as a smuggler? And seriously a solar system destroying super weapon? That just stinks of dumb and trying to out do the original trilogy when most people acknowledge that the Death Stars were silly weapons in the first place. And than the names granted, Luke is a common name but the rest of the names in the universe tend to not be modern generic names. John and Daisy... and since its probably Tatooin they're on, get the hell off that planet. JJ Abrahms don't just rehash the worst elements of the original trilogy and the prequels.
It can all be explained away...with midichlorians and the "will of the force" ;3
 

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Another rumor associated with the movie, one that has been reported elsewhere and that Devin swears was verified by multiple sources, makes this concept sound a hell of a lot cooler.

apparently, John Boyega's character is a Storm Trooper who has just deserted the service and is trying to do something different with his life.

Other rumors have suggested that:

the galaxy is in a kind of cold war state between what remains of the Empire and whatever government the Rebels established after the destruction of the second Death Star

I'm not going to lie, that sounds awesome. It sounds like, though the EU (which IMO was a bloated, convoluted mess defined mostly by terrible writing, except for the thrawn trilogy and some of the short stories. And was also way too reliant on the Lucasian tendency to have every protagonist be related to every other protagonist in some capacity) has been struck from canon, the production might be taking a cue from Marvel and distilling elements from the EU into the new trilogy. There are some good concepts in the EU after all.

Anyway, I never expected that I'd say "this sounds vaguely awesome" about anything Star Wars related ever again, especially once JJA was announced to direct. But looks like I just did.
 

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...<_<

...>_>

...Am I the only one who actually kinda liked the script scrap? Could be a controlled leak too by the producers, to gauge the public reaction to this tiny story morsel, and to see what the scanner says about the Hype Level.

Also remember it's his robot jedi magic hand, so perhaps that's why it survives the heat from entering a planet's atmosphere and conveniently lands in the immediate vicinity of the movie's BFF protagonists.
 

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On the one hand (pun not intended), this plot is so lame I don't believe it, but then again it's a J.J. Abrams movie.

Zachary Amaranth said:
I want this to be true. I will make SPACE HAAAAAAAAND jokes for the rest of my life if it's true. Which probably won't be long, because I'm sure if I keep saying "SPACE HAAAAAND!" someone will kill me.
Even better will be if one of the people who discovers this hand will be a Jar Jar Binks type who yells "SPACE HAAAAAAAND!" and then runs around in a goofy manner for five minutes.
 

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*sigh* You know, they could've had the lightsaber fall instead of the hand. That would be perfectly acceptable. Han would've identified the saber, as he was around when Luke was training with it.

But having an actual hand would be so much better, because we could make Episode VII into a morality play called "The Jedi's Paw". It's an ancient relic of the Old Republic that grants wishes to whomever holds it. The catch to it is that the wishes are twisted horribly. For example, a die-hard Star Wars fan got a hold of it in the present day, and wished that Episode VII would come out...
 

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On the one hand (pun not intended), this plot is so lame I don't believe it, but then again it's a J.J. Abrams movie.

Zachary Amaranth said:
I want this to be true. I will make SPACE HAAAAAAAAND jokes for the rest of my life if it's true. Which probably won't be long, because I'm sure if I keep saying "SPACE HAAAAAND!" someone will kill me.
Even better will be if one of the people who discovers this hand will be a Jar Jar Binks type who yells "SPACE HAAAAAAAND!" and then runs around in a goofy manner for five minutes.
This movie needs Jar-Jar. And Ewoks. They can all worship the space hand.
 

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It hurts that so many people even remotely think this could be the possible plot. I'm convinced that anyone who would've looked at this as a plot would've slapped the writer with first a physics and then a biology text. No, this has to be a troll leak. We want this to be bad, so it's so easy to believe.
 

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sorsa said:
...<_<

...>_>

...Am I the only one who actually kinda liked the script scrap? Could be a controlled leak too by the producers, to gauge the public reaction to this tiny story morsel, and to see what the scanner says about the Hype Level.

Also remember it's his robot jedi magic hand, so perhaps that's why it survives the heat from entering a planet's atmosphere and conveniently lands in the immediate vicinity of the movie's BFF protagonists.
The hand was REPLACED with a robotic hand BECAUSE it was severed on Bespin. Also, things much bigger than medical prosthetics burn up on atmospheric entry all the time. Then again, "Jedi magic hand" makes me wonder if you're baiting...
 

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luvd1 said:
As soon as the hand in space lands on planet line came up. I started head butting a wall. Rally? That shit won't fly even if your five feking years old! This hogwash can not be real.
This is from the same person who gave us "alternate universe Spock" in the very first movie, so I'm not exactly surprised if it turns out to be true
Have you not even watched Star Trek? There's timme travel and interdimensional doppelgangers galore, and not in one-offs from the first series either.
 

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Leak + JJ Abrams = Mystery Box = You got trolled, son.
Basically.
Though calling back to the first movie sounds like something Abrams would do even if it makes absolutely no sense. (based on his Star Trek films anyway)
 
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The report didn't mention the fact that the severed hand was floating through space with middle finger extended as a not so subtle "fuck you" to fans.

As so many people have stated, there are two many things wrong with this idea that it can't be true. It would be a tragedy of Jar-Jarian magnitude.
 

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Return it to the 'proper people?' What, Luke HASN'T been rebuilding the Jedi order for the last 30 years? I mean, seems like if he was it wouldn't be very hard to find them. Just go to Coruscant - problem solved, series over. I can imagine that they'll probably have to deal with Jedi Hunters that want the stupid lightsaber for some reason, all so the main characters can be drawn into an over-arcing plot in the flimsiest of ways.

It all just reeks of being lazy, especially running into the Han Solo. It's like contacting Old Spock just so that he can flat out tell you who the fuck Khan is instead of letting the characters make decisions on their own that might, I don't know, actually lead them on an adventure. I'm not saying Star Wars has to be spectacularly more clever, but if this is how you plan to start your new space-adventure series, I have been right to be wary of this project from the start. It'll take a lot to get me to pay money to see it.
 

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Spaceships, lasers, Lightsabers, The Force. Good guys, bad guys, cameos and "nostalgia".

There, I've just called it. No need to hurry, I'll wait for my thanks. \o/
 

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Oh my god, between this and the nitpicks on the X-wing picture I will likely be completely avoiding all internet discussion leading up to the films. I mean, seriously people. A vague hint at what might be the plot of a film that is a year off and hasn't even finished filming, and everyone is already making judgements as to the film's quality. Can we just wait and actually SEE what comes up in the future before jumping on the Abrams hate train and declaring the movie an abomination? Please? All this doom and gloom when we haven't actually seen anything of the film and have no concrete details about anything going on in it, it's rather silly and preemptive.

Also, people need to stop pining for the EU. Seriously. Most of it was utter rubbish and I'm glad to see it gone, so all the crap can be scraped away and we can get new things that aren't bogged down by what came before. Thrawn isn't gonna be in these films, we aren't gonna have Jacen and Jaina running around. Stop looking at this through the lens of the long overdrawn glorified fanfaction that was the EU.
 

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Also, people need to stop pining for the EU. Seriously. Most of it was utter rubbish and I'm glad to see it gone, so all the crap can be scraped away and we can get new things that aren't bogged down by what came before. Thrawn isn't gonna be in these films, we aren't gonna have Jacen and Jaina running around. Stop looking at this through the lens of the long overdrawn glorified fanfaction that was the EU.
Oh just fuck off.
 

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Magnus Greel said:
Comic Sans said:
Also, people need to stop pining for the EU. Seriously. Most of it was utter rubbish and I'm glad to see it gone, so all the crap can be scraped away and we can get new things that aren't bogged down by what came before. Thrawn isn't gonna be in these films, we aren't gonna have Jacen and Jaina running around. Stop looking at this through the lens of the long overdrawn glorified fanfaction that was the EU.
Oh just fuck off.
Agreed, the thing is that the parts that make star wars pretty damn good at times such as mandalorian culture and history as well as the long evolving history of the sith order. The old republic era, Revan, the sith empire, Malgus. And so on. They are simply unofficial now, we are supposed to forget about the best parts of the star wars universe while comic relief droids, a sociopath teens "fall from grave" and freaking Jar Jar Binks stays.

Just nope.

I recently bought the "Book of Sith" that is a collection of writings from various Sith Lords ranging back to the Jedi Exiles. It is damn good, has actual philosophical and spiritual value and manage to capture the essence of an ideology that changes slowly throughout millenia.

The story of Revan and the latter great galactic war is fantastic, the writing is way better than the "official" material.

Fans are called such due to being fanatical, well worth remembering.