Rumor: Sorry Folks, There Will be no DirectX 12 Support For Windows 7 - Update

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TechNoFear

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Strazdas said:
The blog you linked does not state anywhere that it will be supported on Xbox. The closest it got is claims that everyone, including Xbox owners, are waiting for it.
Yes it does, in the first paragraph. Clearly you need to work on your reading comprehension.

And it isn?t just for high-end gaming PCs either ? Direct3D 12 works across all the Microsoft devices you care about. From phones and tablets, to laptops and desktops, and, of course, Xbox One, Direct3D 12 is the API you?ve been waiting for.
 

Strazdas

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lordofpowies said:
You fucking people. You're not allowed to discontinue support for a product until the newer product is no longer a flaming pile of shit.
they are not discontinuing support. they are not adding new stuff to it.

Asuterisuku said:
I still feel like most of the hate directed at Windows 8 is for people who haven't used it, especially when it's functionally identical to Windows 7 in 90% of cases, is more efficient in another 8%. That makes them exactly 2% justified. I don't get it.
I cant vouch for everyone, but i used 8 and went back to 7. you are wrong about it being functionally indentical, both from user side and from kernel side.

TechNoFear said:
Strazdas said:
The blog you linked does not state anywhere that it will be supported on Xbox. The closest it got is claims that everyone, including Xbox owners, are waiting for it.
Yes it does, in the first paragraph. Clearly you need to work on your reading comprehension.

And it isn?t just for high-end gaming PCs either ? Direct3D 12 works across all the Microsoft devices you care about. From phones and tablets, to laptops and desktops, and, of course, Xbox One, Direct3D 12 is the API you?ve been waiting for.
you are correct. my mind was searching for DirectX12 and somehow missed Direct3D. my apologies.
 

Bat Vader

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TechNoFear said:
Strazdas said:
The blog you linked does not state anywhere that it will be supported on Xbox. The closest it got is claims that everyone, including Xbox owners, are waiting for it.
Yes it does, in the first paragraph. Clearly you need to work on your reading comprehension.

And it isn?t just for high-end gaming PCs either ? Direct3D 12 works across all the Microsoft devices you care about. From phones and tablets, to laptops and desktops, and, of course, Xbox One, Direct3D 12 is the API you?ve been waiting for.
There is no need to insult the guy.
 

Atmos Duality

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archiebawled said:
Did you use Win8 or Win8.1? Win8.1 comes with a simple option to log in and go straight to Desktop. Installing a classic start menu takes 5 minutes, including the google search for it. Not a huge effort really.
That was Win8.
Win8.1 didn't exist at the time, and I still see no reason to "upgrade". At this point, the benefits would be puny and I'd just end up wasting more time.

Are you using some esoteric hardware? In any case, drivers are the responsibility of their manufacturers. If the manufacturer of a device doesn't write a new driver for Win8, it's not fair to blame that on Microsoft.
Esoteric? Not really, no.
It's not a matter of driver creation, it's a matter of driver ACCEPTANCE.

In every other version of Windows, I could work around the architecture to get drivers to work for even all but the most ridiculously obscure hardware...EXCEPT 8, which kept rolling back drivers behind my back for seemingly no reason.

Legacy software not running on Win8 is also not a failing of Microsoft - you're running software on an OS it was never designed to work on, so why would you expect it to work? It's not reasonable to expect Microsoft to maintain backwards compatibility indefinitely.
In other words: Win8 (or 8.1) really isn't a straight upgrade of 7 at all.
 

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I shall await the reviews!

As in I shall await the tech websites running games in both DX11 and DX12 mode. And we shall see what it shall bring us. But I get why windows 7 might be set aside.

Microsoft has to sell windows 8/10 one way. And secondly who knows what layer switcheroo they have been doing to make directx run better in windows 8. It could be that there is deep in that murkyness of windows software layers a reason why windows 7 doesn't gets it and windows 8 does.

Windows is a mystery.. it isn't an open box and we ought not to forget that. It is quite possible that windows 7, good as it is, wouldn't support parts that would make Directx 12 run as it should. That is microsoft and windows for you, that is how they work..

If microsoft designed hardware their PCB designs would be just horrible. And unlike Linux they can't just do a full replacement of a broken model.. with Linux they simple can change whole modules. With windows well.. not going to happen.
 

RavingSturm

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masticina said:
I shall await the reviews!

As in I shall await the tech websites running games in both DX11 and DX12 mode. And we shall see what it shall bring us. But I get why windows 7 might be set aside.

Microsoft has to sell windows 8/10 one way. And secondly who knows what layer switcheroo they have been doing to make directx run better in windows 8. It could be that there is deep in that murkyness of windows software layers a reason why windows 7 doesn't gets it and windows 8 does.

Windows is a mystery.. it isn't an open box and we ought not to forget that. It is quite possible that windows 7, good as it is, wouldn't support parts that would make Directx 12 run as it should. That is microsoft and windows for you, that is how they work..

If microsoft designed hardware their PCB designs would be just horrible. And unlike Linux they can't just do a full replacement of a broken model.. with Linux they simple can change whole modules. With windows well.. not going to happen.
No mystery :). The directors from the top told the OS engineers that people have stopped buying shit. To keep your jobs you'll force people to buy new shit!