So there's no jokes, presumably they'll still be shilling the hell out of IHOP and Sears, right?
Rumor: Warner Bros. Imposes "No Jokes" Rule On DC Comics Movies
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I know this doesn't directly tie into "no jokes", but I watched Superman vs the Elite(or the adaptation of "What's so funny about Truth, Justice and the American Way?") again last night. Given the direction Batman v Superman is going, the guys in charge of the DC cinematic universe should be strapped to a chair and made to watch or read that story. Several times. Then slapped and removed from their positions and but Bruce Timm and Paul Dini in charge and we can all be happy bunnies!
When my girlfriend, who is by no means into comics, gets the character of Superman(mind you, I thought most people did) and understands the point of that story, clearly better than the guys in charge are, something is wrong with your production.
Oh well, I suppose I can just watch Captain America The Winter Soldier again, a movie that did a much better job of capturing the feeling of Superman than DC are going to manage. Cap was everything Supes should be in that movie.
When my girlfriend, who is by no means into comics, gets the character of Superman(mind you, I thought most people did) and understands the point of that story, clearly better than the guys in charge are, something is wrong with your production.
Oh well, I suppose I can just watch Captain America The Winter Soldier again, a movie that did a much better job of capturing the feeling of Superman than DC are going to manage. Cap was everything Supes should be in that movie.
Are they crazy? I know they're going for the darker edgier motif, but even so some moments of levity are nice. You know just to break things up a bit, to get a brief break from all the gloom.
really a flash without jokes that will be hell
in other news the flash tv show looks amazing and fun
so movies you can suck it
in other news the flash tv show looks amazing and fun
so movies you can suck it
I find a deep irony that they've extracted the jokes out of something based on "comics".
Ever looked up the definition of "comic"? (Not the drawn story definition.)
Ever looked up the definition of "comic"? (Not the drawn story definition.)
So Marvel has made an ever-increasing stable of personable, flawed, human, superheroes while DC is building a group of joyless f***s in a series overly-gritty, hyper-dramatic, slogfests that miss the tones needed by a a wide mark. As misguided as I believe the recent Spiderman movies are, they at least tried to convey some levity in a characters: they tried to make it fun. If DC want's to see serious superhero movies done right, they need look no further than the two most recent X Men movies. They weren't perfect, but they told poignant stories of sadness and loss, fear and bravery with enough style and skill to succeed in portraying the characters consistently.
I was fine with Nolan's Batman for the most part because if there were one hero to take himself that seriously, it'd be Batman. But even the Bat has a sense of humor (and famously doesn't like chocolate ice cream). But the disappointments that were Green Lantern and Man of Steel just cemented in my head that the writers DC gets to make their movies just don't understand comics or super heroes. In what universe does Superman allow and contribute to the wanton destruction of his home town, then an entire city. Not even Batman would go that far.
I was fine with Nolan's Batman for the most part because if there were one hero to take himself that seriously, it'd be Batman. But even the Bat has a sense of humor (and famously doesn't like chocolate ice cream). But the disappointments that were Green Lantern and Man of Steel just cemented in my head that the writers DC gets to make their movies just don't understand comics or super heroes. In what universe does Superman allow and contribute to the wanton destruction of his home town, then an entire city. Not even Batman would go that far.
So they are taking dark and gritty to full 100%??!!
It make me wonder how they can even get The Flash into the rouster in the future if they are having no jokes rule.
It make me wonder how they can even get The Flash into the rouster in the future if they are having no jokes rule.
oJ will be like now.It's sad really.
So many people mistake a lack of humor and fun for depth, and ignore that the film is superficial and stupid in addition to being unfun.
Man of Steel was a terrible movie, not because it was dark and joyless, but because it was STUPID.
And yet I've seen idiots defend even the Tornado Scene! OOOH ITS DEEP BECAUSE OF THE WORDS DADDY KENT DIDNT SAY WHEN HE POINTLESSLY MARTYRED HIMSELF FOR A DOG!
So far it seems like it headed for a Green Lantern scale flop.
So many people mistake a lack of humor and fun for depth, and ignore that the film is superficial and stupid in addition to being unfun.
Man of Steel was a terrible movie, not because it was dark and joyless, but because it was STUPID.
And yet I've seen idiots defend even the Tornado Scene! OOOH ITS DEEP BECAUSE OF THE WORDS DADDY KENT DIDNT SAY WHEN HE POINTLESSLY MARTYRED HIMSELF FOR A DOG!
So far it seems like it headed for a Green Lantern scale flop.
There's a difference between being light hearted and having jokes. The Marvel films are the former, and the Nolan Batman movies are the latter.
If you're gonna do neither (which is odd because Man of Steel had some humour) then you're just going to get either too morose or too lacking in anything.
If you're gonna do neither (which is odd because Man of Steel had some humour) then you're just going to get either too morose or too lacking in anything.
DC may want their upcoming movie to be taken seriously, but every time i look at the picture at the top of the post of the strange looking Wonder Women, the photoshoped looking Superman and the pissed because someone pissed in his bat cereal, Batman.. i can't help but laugh and makes jokes..
the whole thing looks like a fan made poster of random people trying to look serious but can't because Wonder women farted, Superman's in disbelieve that she let one rip and Batman's lowering his head in shame of the whole thing lol
the whole thing looks like a fan made poster of random people trying to look serious but can't because Wonder women farted, Superman's in disbelieve that she let one rip and Batman's lowering his head in shame of the whole thing lol
Yeah, cause god forbid a superhero movie be any fun. That would be just ludicrous. Yes, real life isn't depressing enough, I need to watch broody Superman brood the broody Batman brooding broody Wonder Woman to feel especially miserable. Thanks DC Comics. PS: f**k you.
I can appreciate that.
I mean I want both. I want the serious action-hero flick along side the more cheesy kid versions. Especially since the cheesy kid versions are the only good ones right now.
Guardians of the Galaxy is great, but it does not mean every movie has to follow their formula.
I mean I want both. I want the serious action-hero flick along side the more cheesy kid versions. Especially since the cheesy kid versions are the only good ones right now.
Guardians of the Galaxy is great, but it does not mean every movie has to follow their formula.
While i'm not opposed to different approaches...
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... how the fuck do they expect to do The Flash properly if jokes aren't made? He's the light-hearted fun-guy of the group. Or Shazam who is literally a kid in a man's body? I'm not opposed to a more serious band of heroes... but being 100% serious will likely be what kills the interest of these films if they're all work and no play.
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... how the fuck do they expect to do The Flash properly if jokes aren't made? He's the light-hearted fun-guy of the group. Or Shazam who is literally a kid in a man's body? I'm not opposed to a more serious band of heroes... but being 100% serious will likely be what kills the interest of these films if they're all work and no play.
what really got to me was the scene where he explains the symbol on his chest means "hope" in kryptonian, and it's still gritty to the point you could make several driveways out of it. And I'm one of the "he shouldn't have snapped Zod's neck" people. There's always another way, leave the killing to Lobo and the Justice Lords.GamerMage said:
Its an interesting read, but I think the main problem with Man of Steel was that they took the "material seriously".Diddy_Mao said:
I think a better mandate would be "take the material lovingly". There is a reason why many of those characters are cultural icons, but WB and its team doesn't seem to get it. To put it simply, if you don't care about the original characters, you have no place in these adaptations. Many of the issues with DC in movies so far is that it looks like the people in charge feel somewhat embarrassed of the source material: Superman is not tragic, make it more like Batman. Green Lantern can't be in space, make it more on Earth. Even the last Nolan movie looked like he was tired of the character, have nothing of interest to say and was just contractually obligated to make another one. Not everything needs to be lighthearted, but even when it is, it looks like everyone has to act outside their established characters and turned into a goofball to have humor (look at Catwoman or Green Lantern).
And, unfortunately, it seems like they haven't learned the lesson. Things like this "no jokes" policy (rumored, but likely given their history), or people like Goyer dismissing characters, misreading them or insulting their audience, constantly reminds me of this problem: people in charge of the DC Cinematic Universe are ashamed of the source material, of the audience, and believe everything has to be Dark Knight Returns (bleak and moody) to make DKR numbers.
It's things like this that make me love Superman. He's like everyone's super nice older brother who flies out of nowhere to save you when you think there's no hope. He's supposed to be what humanity aspires to be. A Super Man. The DC movies really need to pick up on this. It would be awesome for Superman to be the ray of sunlight in all the darkness these films are trying to convey.rosac said:They'd best not mess up superman again. They missed what I believe is the most integral part of superman- Hope, and the fact he looks after as many people as possible. No matter the situation, he wants to help. This is my favourite superman scene ever, it actually brought a tear to my eye at how touching it is:
Exactly. I think a rather sizable portion of The Escapists readership has learned for the first time this week exactly who and what Devin Faraci is. He is not a valid source, he is not a journalist or reviewer. He is an unethical troll who says outlandish bullshit for click bait. Until something has been 100% confirmed by someone else don't believe anything, don't click on the link.Kalezian said:whoa, wait a second, using Devin Faraci as a source?MovieBob said:
http://www.edrants.com/why-devin-faraci-is-unfit-to-practice-journalism/
http://badassdigest.com/2014/08/26/video-games-misogyny-and-terrorism-a-guide-to-assholes/
This Devin Faraci? that says he has more respect for journalist murdering terrorists than gamers?
Honestly I wouldn't take anything he says for even face value. Not after the Batman Trilogy had it's comedic moments. Not sure about the Superman films, didn't watch them myself, but comedy comes in many forms.
Plan 9 from Outer Space, for example.
EDIT for clarity: Calling out a source that has been known to make inflammatory comments and generate click-bait articles.
Speaking of which, given The Escapists recent controversy, the current seeming links and relationships below the boards, mr. Tito's promise to do better regarding single sourced material, and the overall feeling of pessimism permeating gamers regarding the gaming and media press, the skeptic in me has to suddenly wonder if this badly sourced rumor article is simply Bob generating click throughout for Faraci as a thank you for Faraci attacking and harassing the people that Bob doesn't like. Namely the Escapists actual readership. Not saying its true. But given Bob and Devins statements this week directly at US the impression is left there. And this Mr. Tito is why rules of tight journalistc ethics and behavior exist. It tends to cast doubt accross your publication and undermine and damage your brand. Please stop acting like we're stupid.