Same-sex Relationships Mass Effect 3

[feauxx]

I guess he couldn't possibly be the first man who has ever had enjoyable heterosexual relationships for thirty-something years then suddenly get struck with the gay, right?

I don't really care personally, but from a story perspective it's rather odd.

Sure enough though, at least two people will quote this post and tell me I hate homosexuals, like they would know better than I do. It's kind of like the Thor movie, doesn't matter that you only find it strange that a Norse god would be black, if you don't approve you're automatically a white supremacist.

If your Shep is straight in your mind then yes it's could be a bit odd, so maybe you should just stick to the straight romances?

People need to remember that everybody has a different Shepard and a different experience playing the game and interacting with the characters.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

Dear Garrus, I am going to have sex with you.

The end.

As am I. Time to turn my bromance into a full on romance.

 

[TitanAtlas]

Something tells me Sheperd will swing both teams.... xD

 

[Fanboy]

Garrus and Tali were not bangable in the first game, yet became so in the second game. Does this mean they were rewritten to be interested in Shep?

Umm, yeah, actually, that's exactly what it means.

I wanted Tali to be romancable in ME1, but she wasn't and there wasn't even any chemistry. Then in ME2 they just ditched all that and crowbar'd a romance in there. I'd rather they'd stayed true to the original character.

That's not rewriting, that's developing the character. Tali and Garrus' interest/disinterest in shepard was not a subject covered in the first game; There is no evidence to show they were interested in Shepard, but neither was their evidence that they were not. They obviously didn't plan the romance options ahead of time, but I think they handled including them in a believable enough way. In Tali's case, she simply has a crush on Shepard, which is perfectly reasonable for Shepard to miss. When this crush developed is pure speculation, but I doubt it was during the events of the first game. She suppressed her feelings because she did not see a way their relationship could work. Knowing she is interested in him changes the way shepard feels about her. In Garrus' case, he did not see shepard in that way until she came on to him. Even then, it's more about casual sex.

Sure they didn't plan it, and I'm sure they would have left clues in ME1 if they had, but I really don't see any major problems with the way they developed the characters.

The only thing that kinda bugs me is how Garrus and Tali had no problem shacking up with Shep while knowing about his current relationship with Liara/Kaidan/Ashley. Maybe cheating isn't a big deal for Quarians/Turians. I'm sure there will be some Jerry Springer moments in Mass Effect 3...

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

I didn't even know that Mass Effect was purely heterosexual

It's not. There's been female-female homosexual relationships, but not male-male.

technically its not even that given the way there species is

While that's true about the Asari, females Shepards could also romance Kelly Chambers the yeoman in mass effect 2.

that's true so I'll give you that one

No it isn't.

This makes me rage and facepalm at the same time. Asari are monogendered so technically it's not lesbian? Come off it! Liara is a woman with blue skin and a funky hairdo. There's nothing remotely monogendered about the Asari.

Yeah, it pissed me off that you could go lesbian, but manly man Shepard isn't gay! Because the Asari are women, end of story.

 

[feauxx]

I didn't even know that Mass Effect was purely heterosexual

It's not. There's been female-female homosexual relationships, but not male-male.

technically its not even that given the way there species is

While that's true about the Asari, females Shepards could also romance Kelly Chambers the yeoman in mass effect 2.

that's true so I'll give you that one

No it isn't.

This makes me rage and facepalm at the same time. Asari are monogendered so technically it's not lesbian? Come off it! Liara is a woman with blue skin and a funky hairdo. There's nothing remotely monogendered about the Asari.

Yeah, it pissed me off that you could go lesbian, but manly man Shepard isn't gay! Because the Asari are women, end of story.

Women who can get each other pregnant.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

I didn't even know that Mass Effect was purely heterosexual

It's not. There's been female-female homosexual relationships, but not male-male.

technically its not even that given the way there species is

While that's true about the Asari, females Shepards could also romance Kelly Chambers the yeoman in mass effect 2.

that's true so I'll give you that one

No it isn't.

This makes me rage and facepalm at the same time. Asari are monogendered so technically it's not lesbian? Come off it! Liara is a woman with blue skin and a funky hairdo. There's nothing remotely monogendered about the Asari.

Yeah, it pissed me off that you could go lesbian, but manly man Shepard isn't gay! Because the Asari are women, end of story.

Women who can get each other pregnant.

My point was that they look and speak like women. Bioware can throw up the "technically they aren't" defense, but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it is a duck. I was just pointing out that it was wrong to allow a lesbian relationship, but not a male homosexual one.

 

[Choppaduel]

if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it is a duck.

Unless its a robot, or a projection, or a hallucination, or....

Anyways, I'm glad to see more breadth, hopefully the depth won't be sacrificed much.

But if they bring back the planet scanning, no amount of gay sex will get me to play the game lol.

 

[Epic Fail 1977]

if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it is a duck.

Unless its a robot, or a projection, or a hallucination, or....

You mean a robot duck. Or a projection of a duck. Or an hallucinated duck.
Perception is reality. It's still a duck.

 

[Russian_Assassin]

What sense does it make to give Shepard a choice to be gay now? Did he suddenly discover he was gay between games? Hell, I want DLC to see how that happened!

It's kinda silly to change it now. I remember Bioware saying that giving players the opportunity to make a homosexual Shepard doesn't fit with the character they had in mind. Someone's being inconsistent...

You mean a robot duck. Or a projection of a duck. Or an hallucinated duck.
Perception is reality. It's still a duck.

Then I declare myself to be the Emperor of the Omega System Republic. Also, the acid just kicked in and you all look like giraffes to me, therefore you really ARE giraffes!!!

 

[Epic Fail 1977]

I didn't even know that Mass Effect was purely heterosexual

It's not. There's been female-female homosexual relationships, but not male-male.

technically its not even that given the way there species is

While that's true about the Asari, females Shepards could also romance Kelly Chambers the yeoman in mass effect 2.

that's true so I'll give you that one

No it isn't.

This makes me rage and facepalm at the same time. Asari are monogendered so technically it's not lesbian? Come off it! Liara is a woman with blue skin and a funky hairdo. There's nothing remotely monogendered about the Asari.

Yeah, it pissed me off that you could go lesbian, but manly man Shepard isn't gay! Because the Asari are women, end of story.

Women who can get each other pregnant.

So when genetic engineers figure out how to impregnate one lesbian's egg with the DNA of another lesbian, then they won't be lesbians anymore?

 

[feauxx]

I didn't even know that Mass Effect was purely heterosexual

It's not. There's been female-female homosexual relationships, but not male-male.

technically its not even that given the way there species is

While that's true about the Asari, females Shepards could also romance Kelly Chambers the yeoman in mass effect 2.

that's true so I'll give you that one

No it isn't.

This makes me rage and facepalm at the same time. Asari are monogendered so technically it's not lesbian? Come off it! Liara is a woman with blue skin and a funky hairdo. There's nothing remotely monogendered about the Asari.

Yeah, it pissed me off that you could go lesbian, but manly man Shepard isn't gay! Because the Asari are women, end of story.

Women who can get each other pregnant.

So when genetic engineers figure out how to impregnate one lesbian's egg with the DNA of another lesbian, then they won't be lesbians anymore?

Sure they would, but still not mono-gendered

 

[Russian_Assassin]

And Asari are not women, in the same sense that amoebas aren't women. Though the latter does not require the genetic material of another organism to multiply.

 

[Choppaduel]

if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it is a duck.

Unless its a robot, or a projection, or a hallucination, or....

You mean a robot duck. Or a projection of a duck. Or an hallucinated duck.
Perception is reality. It's still a duck.

Perception is not reality. the robot/projection/hallucination are all crude replicas of a duck and, therefore, are not ducks.


EDITED: minor edits

 

[gbemery]

I didn't even know that Mass Effect was purely heterosexual

It's not. There's been female-female homosexual relationships, but not male-male.

Yes, though technically no because Asari are mono-gendered. (it would make BroShep's relationship with Liara a bit gay/bi as well )

Good point. I don't get why there couldn't have been a lesbian option with Miranda and/or Jack..

well couldn't your female shep have a romance with the cerberus woman...not Miranda but the other one I can' think of her name...Kelly maybe?

Ah, Kelly <3 I loved that she was romancible, so many cheesy chat-up lines to be found in dialogues with her.

lol yeah not too mention the rather hilarious dance routine she does

 

[gbemery]

I didn't even know that Mass Effect was purely heterosexual

It's not. There's been female-female homosexual relationships, but not male-male.

Yes, though technically no because Asari are mono-gendered. (it would make BroShep's relationship with Liara a bit gay/bi as well )

Good point. I don't get why there couldn't have been a lesbian option with Miranda and/or Jack..

well couldn't your female shep have a romance with the cerberus woman...not Miranda but the other one I can' think of her name...Kelly maybe?

Yes, Yeoman Kelly Chambers; your red haired, green eyed, personal assistant. I like to refer to her as 'The Pendulum', she can swing both ways and be totally natural doing it. If she remains as part of the cast in ME3 (provided you saved her), she would be the most logical human lesbian love interest, bar a new character. Her character is proven to be bisexual at the very least; you've had a good build up of relationship with her and she also likes you back.

and if they do the same in ME3 with same sex relationships then it should be alright for those who complained I think. It took me two or three playthroughs before I even noticed you could romance her so it isn't all in your face.

 

[Super Toast]

Will I finally be able to achieve my dream of having a Liara/Garrus/Tali 4 way?

My fingers are crossed.

Tali would die, in like, five seconds.

Looks like MShep will be going gay for Garrus. But then again, who wouldn't?

 

[lovest harding]

Lovely news. Thanks for sharing.
Personally, I do hope it's new characters (also has fingers crossed for actually gay characters a la New Vegas). I love the old characters, but if they wanted to sleep with my Shep, they probably would have said so already and not randomly turn to me years after meeting me and go "Yeah. I can try that now." xD
And I don't want the messing with personalities that are already quite well done.

I second this, but given the amount of people begging for male/male romances with Garrus I suspect Bioware will cave in and give those fans what they want.

I see Garrus as more of a "bro" than a "bromance" so I just hope they handle things in such a way that both sides can be happy.

It's hard to tell with BioWare. Half the time they go out of their way to cater to fans well enough, the other half of the time they focus on making things more streamlined for some random group of people they feel will buy the game if they change something (which I'm not sure why, as their reputation for what they do well keeps their games selling incredibly well).

In any case, I'm hoping for a Hanar love interest. Just to piss people off. That would make my day at least. xD

 

[feauxx]

And Asari are not women, in the same sense that amoebas aren't women. Though the latter does not require the genetic material of another organism to multiply.

From the Mass Effect wikia:

There is some conflicting information regarding the gender of the asari. Though they resemble females, at least to humans, asari are non-gender specific, with no concept of gender differences. Liara says her species is "mono-gendered?male and female have no real meaning for us," and, if asked, says that she is "not precisely a woman". However, in the Codex it is stated that the asari are an all-female race. The Galactic Codex: Essentials Edition 2183 says that "while asari have only one gender, they are not asexual like single-celled life?all asari are sexually female", and according to Liara they also have maternal instincts. They are innately different from humans for asari can mate with other species.

After reading that it is still kind of vague
It is clear that femShep and Liara could have children, though I wonder if Liara could get Shep pregnant..

 

[The Forces of Chaos]

This is start of Mass effect the love sim, what an epic fail. I thought bioware was making an rpg/fps, not some kind of trashy Bishoujo game set in space. I guess i shouldn?t be surprised, guess this is gonna be some kind of reaching out to increase the player base but its gonna alienate some gamers.