Nope Nope we NEED Scaramouch, he was one of the best parts in this whole miniseriesSamtemdo8 said:
Samurai Jack Season 5 thread.
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Sorry he's this series Jar Jar Binks to me, oh sure he's cooler than Jar Jar Binks and funnier, but still he takes so much away from this seasons potential. Jack's depression, the Daughters of Aku, The Horsemen, nah screw all that lets have him be a head just dicking around and saying PenisPapaGreg096 said:
Not counting the fight scene he had with Jack he only had like a total of 8 minutes of screentime so I doubt he took away THAT much from the seriesSamtemdo8 said:Sorry he's this series Jar Jar Binks to me, oh sure he's cooler than Jar Jar Binks and funnier, but still he takes so much away from this seasons potential. Jack's depression, the Daughters of Aku, The Horsemen, nah screw all that lets have him be a head just dicking around and saying PenisPapaGreg096 said:
The absolute point of contention was episode 6 where I feel instead of actually spending more time on Jack and the Horsemen, I am subject to Scaramouche's Penis joke that amazingly EVERYONE laughed out loud I mean jeez guys its like you never heard a joke before.PapaGreg096 said:Not counting the fight scene he had with Jack he only had like a total of 8 minutes of screentime so I doubt he took away THAT much from the seriesSamtemdo8 said:Sorry he's this series Jar Jar Binks to me, oh sure he's cooler than Jar Jar Binks and funnier, but still he takes so much away from this seasons potential. Jack's depression, the Daughters of Aku, The Horsemen, nah screw all that lets have him be a head just dicking around and saying PenisPapaGreg096 said:
But all that dicking around took away time for this scene which to this day dissapoints me more than any other of this season:
I mean I swear when Aku killed Scara I was like THANK YOU!!!
The first half does, but after that it falls back into a more regular episodic structure.MrBoBo said:
I don't think training would've been necessary. Ashi's had enough, I'd say. What she needs, and what the series did, was show her Jack's way of thinking. The best example of that being Jack's story about the sun and moon, and we see Ashi smile. Eventhough it's obviously not true, it's a nice way of looking at the world, which she has never been presented with before.Samtemdo8 said:
As for their relationship, it might've been an idea to combine them forming a romantic one together with dealing with Ashi's mother/cult. That way we could've seen Ashi having to deal with her past (mother) and stepping on to the path toward a brighter future (Jack). The whole thing with her mother and that cult felt way too interesting to not follow up on.
Ok the actual END of the episode is starting to grow on me a bit after watching it again more times:Casual Shinji said:
Just....why do have to leave me like this
OK now I feel sad, mostly because this is less about Ashi and more about this is it, this is goodbye to Samurai Jack, a character who despite this flawed season is a charcater I grew up and liked alot, and I feel there is still so much left unanswered and he deserved more than this.Sniper Team 4 said:
Depsite it being the conclusion I still want more
The last season has a lot of issues, but filler was not one of them. If anything, the last half was incredibly rushed.
Its like they started the season on the regular Samurai Jack pace, and remember 5 episodes in that they only had like 4 more episodes to close the story satisfactorily. While I enjoyed the season, and I am glad the series got to had an ending, all my issues with the season come from the fact it was less than half the length of a regular season: the children of Aku was a cool concept, but once one of them died and Jack made piece with his decision, they stopped being a legitimate threat and dropped like flies; Jack looking for his sword was a good idea for a story, but it took him a single episode and the sword instantly appeared in his hand; I liked the interactions between Jack and Ashi, but both her change of heart and their romance was given far too little room to be explored.
Its like they started the season on the regular Samurai Jack pace, and remember 5 episodes in that they only had like 4 more episodes to close the story satisfactorily. While I enjoyed the season, and I am glad the series got to had an ending, all my issues with the season come from the fact it was less than half the length of a regular season: the children of Aku was a cool concept, but once one of them died and Jack made piece with his decision, they stopped being a legitimate threat and dropped like flies; Jack looking for his sword was a good idea for a story, but it took him a single episode and the sword instantly appeared in his hand; I liked the interactions between Jack and Ashi, but both her change of heart and their romance was given far too little room to be explored.
Honestly the sword part sort of bothered the crap out of me when looking back, like okay one of the things that lead Jack into his depressions is that he could't fight Aku with the sword but apparently he could've gotten a new one just by meditating.hermes said:
Just saw the final episode, and damn was is disappointing. Where was Ashi's mom? And the fight against Aku was pathetic.
And the ending was terrible. Hey Jack, thanks for all your sacrifice and effort, now piss off back to the woods you sad and lonely man! And don't let me catch you with any kinda of closure or so help me. Closure is for people who don't think sad endings are evidence the writer is really ballsy and kewl.
And the ending was terrible. Hey Jack, thanks for all your sacrifice and effort, now piss off back to the woods you sad and lonely man! And don't let me catch you with any kinda of closure or so help me. Closure is for people who don't think sad endings are evidence the writer is really ballsy and kewl.
Also why didn't Ashi disappear the second Aku died?
1. Ashi's mother is dead, if the Stab did not kill her, the fall will.Silentpony said:
2. This is what you get when you turn Aku from a Intimidating yet Vain Villain, to basically Mark Hamill Joker if he was a demon.
3. Because plot and tear jerker.
I knew there would be something wrong with this season the moment I found out it will have only 10 episodes, and that each with be 22 mins each. Fuck me why did I have to be proven right that 10 episodes will mean a rush job. I mean the plots they introduced here is way too ambitious for 10 episodes.
The first few episodes were fantastic. And the fight with the sisters in the snow, Jack all bloody, them all covered in black, was visually the most incredible moment of the entire show.Samtemdo8 said:
Shame to say it since I like her as a character, but the season went downhill fast when Ashi became good.
Yeah man they blew thier load big time with the first 3 episode, but goddamn was it a glorious load:Silentpony said:
You know what would be good closure? If Cartoon Network cancelled the series in the middle of its run and didn't give the creators a chance to give it some sort of ending, so the last we see of the character in almost 15 years is a random adventure that make no progress whatsoever to his quest. How is that for closure?Silentpony said:
You just can't please some people. Sure, the season had a third of the episodes of a regular season, and it made many episodes feel rushed, but it was an ending. An ending that had more build up that could have been possible in a 90 minutes movie. There were some issues with the execution, but one thing I wouldn't say is that it didn't have closure: Aku is dead, humanity is saved and Jack is back in the past... show is over, closure.
I don't know if Ashi's death was a reference to Gurren Lagann or an original tear jearker, but I have no problem with it (except that it was over too fast, but that is the season in a nutshell). If you thought it would end without any kind of tragedy or price to pay, or with a cop out to get to "happily ever after", you were watching the wrong show.
They could have saved a lot of time and trouble and just posted that on Twitter. No need to leave a bad taste in the mouth. Before the new season it was 'Damn Samurai Jack was a good show. I wish they had finished it!' but now its 'Wait, what? What about X, and Y and Z?! And when did Q happen? And the power to get the sword back was inside Jack all along?! And every character we've come to love is now non-existent?!'hermes said:
Fans need to learn to be careful for what they wish for.
I am going to leave your last line as an aesop for everything.Silentpony said:
Cancel all shows after the first few seasons, and all trilogies after the second movie. Since we know fans imaginations can be better than most authors abilities, we have no need for anything after The Last Jedi, Avengers Infinity Wars Part 1, Firefly season 1 and A Dance with Dragons. They might be good, but why risk it?
You're getting straw everywhere dude. Caution that something might not be as good today as it was 15 years ago is not the same as no story should every be completed.hermes said:
Take Firefly for example. They didn't make a new season, they made a stand-alone movie. And that was probably wise.
Or Star Wars. The new Trilogy is terrible. The prequel Trilogy is terrible. Out of the 8 Star Wars movies out, only 4 are good, and up until Rogue One it was 3.
Things are rarely as good today as people remember from the past.
The more i thought about that ending, the worse it got. I could accept Ashi dying, due to Aku being destroyed, but this ending implies her being erased out of existence(Oh, and how does that work, btw? Killing Aku in the past means he never was able to give his black semenessence to the cult, preventing Ashi from being born. But that would mean she wouldn't be able to create a time portal for Jack- YOU CREATED A TIME PARADOX). And not only she's been unmade, all the adventures that Jack had, they're only in his memories now. All the friendships he made, never happened. I guess that was part of the plan of The Gods, fixing the timeline that Aku have screwed up... well, i think i'd still prefer Jack to just restore honor to his family and stay in the future, living Aku slayer's fame there.
Uhh, acculy... As long as that ending left a sour taste, it actually delivered that one thing it promised. Jack had a full closure, book ends one even. He got back(back) to the past(past), he killed Aku, and he even came to terms with Ashi's dissapearence later. (Plus, he's a handsome prince, so he won't be alone for long.)Silentpony said:
Mm, as of right now, I'm fine with the ending, not super great, not bad, just fine.
"Now the fool seeks to return to the past and undo the future that is Aku."
Well, he undid it. He undid all of it. That was his mission from the beginning, to return to the past and defeat Aku, not realizing that there would be a price.
But after sometime he comes to terms with it and the show ends with myself and Jack feeling the same way (I think): content.
I'm not usually this poetic but I guess I just wanted to say it that way.
As for the season as a whole, I totally understand that everything after episodes 3 and 4 were rushed. I'm not that salty about it but when someone says this season needed more or longer episodes, I totally agree. I'm not upset with what we got but I know we could have gotten so much better.
Still though, when I think of that final image,
I see Jack has been through and lost so much and despite all that, has made his peace.
He's content with how this story ends and that's how I feel too.
Ask me again in a week though, my opinion typically has a way of changing into a more permanent feeling after it's had time to settle but as of right now, I know I've used it a bunch already but it's such an apt word I think: I am content.
"Now the fool seeks to return to the past and undo the future that is Aku."
Well, he undid it. He undid all of it. That was his mission from the beginning, to return to the past and defeat Aku, not realizing that there would be a price.
But after sometime he comes to terms with it and the show ends with myself and Jack feeling the same way (I think): content.
I'm not usually this poetic but I guess I just wanted to say it that way.
As for the season as a whole, I totally understand that everything after episodes 3 and 4 were rushed. I'm not that salty about it but when someone says this season needed more or longer episodes, I totally agree. I'm not upset with what we got but I know we could have gotten so much better.
Still though, when I think of that final image,
I see Jack has been through and lost so much and despite all that, has made his peace.
He's content with how this story ends and that's how I feel too.
Ask me again in a week though, my opinion typically has a way of changing into a more permanent feeling after it's had time to settle but as of right now, I know I've used it a bunch already but it's such an apt word I think: I am content.