School shooting at Texas Elementary school, several children reported dead

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That's potentially misleading.

The White House took a stance of being open on what to do for the time being, until more was known. The "respect for the men and women of law enforcement" was a boilerplate platitude said along the way, not a reason for whether to hold an investigation or not.
 

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Hold the fuck up. Did this actually happen and can you give me a link/clip to this? Because god fucking damn.
They did at one of the early press conferences, but to be fair I think it was in relation to how many shooters there were. I think they were trying to clarify there was only one shooter.

Having said that, they've been lying this whole time and its becoming increasingly clear they're hiding something.
 

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Not sure if it has been shared already, but this is already a bad start.


Teachers and kids are do training drills specifically to not make any noise, even for police officers. Why the police didn't know this is another mystery.

I don't get it, how do you stop cooperating? Like you ask what officers were on duty and they refuse to answer? Sure! You're fired. We're the Government, and you're just an employee. This investigation has been ordered by the Governor. He runs this shit, and all cops technically report to him.
Texas?
 
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Teachers and kids are do training drills specifically to not make any noise, even for police officers. Why the police didn't know this is another mystery.
Apparently the assault on the gunman was by the Border Patrol, not the Texas Police.

If they were the ones taking action at that stage, they may not have received that training.
 

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Texas for all their bullshit about "Dont mess with Texas" is actually very respectful of authority.
Its starting to feel like something more is going on. Like the police are hiding something.
True, but we're talking cops here, not patriotic citizens. People who already consider themselves above the law because they regularly are proven to be right, sadly.
 
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Apparently the assault on the gunman was by the Border Patrol, not the Texas Police.

If they were the ones taking action at that stage, they may not have received that training.
Not entirely accurate, it would seem...


Did Albarado Break Down the Door and Kill The Shooter?
While it’s true that Albarado went to the school to save his family, and while it’s true that he helped evacuate his daughter and other students at the school, there’s no truth to the claim that he broke down a door to a classroom and killed the shooter.

In an interview with “Today,” Albarado said that he saw officers waiting outside of the classroom where the gunman was located. While Albarado said that he initially thought of helping them breach the classroom, he decided against it.

Asked if he saw police poised outside the door where the gunman was, Albarado said he did.
“At one point, I was there at the door fixing to go in, but once again I didn’t have any of my gear. It wouldn’t have been a smart move for me. All those guys had their gear and stuff so like I said, I pulled back.”
Albarado truly rushed to the school with his barber’s shotgun in order to save his wife and daughter after learning that there was an active shooter at Robb Elementary. While Albarado helped to evacuate his daughter and several other children, social media posts distorted the details of this story and falsely claimed that he was singly responsible for breaching the classroom and killing the shooter. In reality, Albarado was not present during this final altercation.
 

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Not entirely accurate, it would seem...
There are two stories here. The first is that guy, who was an off-duty Border Patrol agent who went to the school. However, in other reports it was a Border Patrol tactical unit (which that guy was not a member of) who assaulted the gunman at the end.
 

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There are two stories here. The first is that guy, who was an off-duty Border Patrol agent who went to the school. However, in other reports it was a Border Patrol tactical unit (which that guy was not a member of) who assaulted the gunman at the end.

Details are still thin, and it could be the use of the word "officer" has been throwing me off if they're using it to refer to border patrol as well. Trying to find more info, this timeline seems to say police were inside the school first, but waited for tactical border patrol unit to arrive before actually engaging the shooter in the locked room;


11.35am

Three officers from the Uvalde Police Department (UPD) enter the school via the same door as the suspect.

Another four follow, including a deputy county sheriff.

Two receive "grazing wounds" before they find the door locked.

11.51am

Police sergeant and USB agents arrive.

A child at the school has told a US media outlet that their classmate was shot dead by Ramos after a police officer told them "yell if you need help" and his cry revealed his location.
Police evacuate children from elsewhere in the school and call for backup.

Distraught parents gather outside the school at the junction between Geraldine Street and Old Carizo Road - some try to enter the building and are restrained by police.

12.15pm

Members of the Border Patrol Tactical Unit (BORTAC) arrive, some with shields.

12.50pm

BORTAC officers unlock the door with keys provided by a janitor. Shots are heard on one of the 911 calls.

They move in and kill the suspect.
Their placing of that event implies it occured before the border patrol arrived and way before the locked door was approached. Hopefully there more clearer information soon, it all looks a clusterfuck to untangle already.
 
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And outside his office minutes later, he told CNN's Shimon Prokupecz that he's not going to release any further information while funerals are ongoing.

"We're going to be respectful to the family," he said. "We're going to do that eventually. Whenever this is done and the families quit grieving, then we'll do that obviously."
This is a sociopath saying something to pretend to people they care.
 

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Love the "and the families quit grieving" weasel words

"Hey chief, you ready to talk yet? It's been 6 months and the families are still upset that you aren't"
"Well, they're still grieving, so no?"
 

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''The land of the free'' I wonder how free those children feel right about now 🤔
 

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Really on a roll now America, just wow



TULSA, Oklahoma (AP) — Multiple people were shot at a Tulsa medical building on a hospital campus Wednesday and “some unfortunately were killed.” a police captain said.

Tulsa police said in a Facebook post just before 6 p.m. that the shooter was dead. It was unclear how the shooter died.

“Officers are currently going through every room in the building checking for additional threats,” police said. “We know there are multiple injuries, and potentially multiple casualties.”

Tulsa police Capt. Richard Meulenberg said multiple people were wounded and that “some unfortunately were killed.” He sais it was a “catastrophic scene.”

St. Francis Health System locked down its campus Wednesday afternoon because of the situation at the Natalie Medical Building. The Natalie building houses an outpatient surgery center and a breast health center.

Aerial footage from a TV helicopter appeared to show first responders wheeling someone on a stretcher away from the hospital building.


Dozens of of police cars could be seen outside the hospital complex, and authorities shut down traffic as the investigation went on.

A reunification center for families to find their loved ones was set up at a nearby high school.

Agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives were also at the scene, a spokesperson said.
 
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