Science Breakthrough: Plate Armor is Heavy

theultimateend

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theheroofaction said:
breaking news: water is wet. Also: ice is cold
Relatively Wet and Relatively cold.

But the effort was cute.

@OP Any endeavor to fulfill our curiosity is money well spent. The failure of the public is to assume that the only good science is science immediately applied to their daily lives.

Such a disappointing response thread :/.
 

Irony's Acolyte

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What? Plate armor is heavy? MADNESS!

Seriously though, this isn't really all that new to me. Although if I'm not mistaken, knights generally didn't slog around on foot in all that armor. They rode horses around, meaning it wasn't as much as a burden on them.

I also remember that because the English Longbows were so great at taking out knights, they weren't seen as being very chivalrous. What with some lowly peasant sending an arrow into the body of nobleman from quite a distance away.
 

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Lyiat said:
See, its experiments like these that annoy the crap out of me. I don't want my tax dollars going to fund this stuff. Its -obvious-.
Look at these excerpts below. None of our precious US tax dollars were wasted here.

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Researchers in the U.K. -snip- researcher Dr. Graham Askew of the University of Leeds -snip- volunteers -snip-
 

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WHAT?! Are you trying to tell me a suit made out of iron and steel is heavy? And that it strains you quickly? And that it was expensive to transport? Oh my fucking lord, who knew?

I'm very, very sorry I have to say this but here it goes

No fucking shit.

Again, I'm so sorry I had to say that.
 

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Gottesstrafe said:
Can't say for certain, but I would also think that a good old fashioned english longbow or a crossbow bolt wouldn't have too much difficulty penetrating leather either.
Considering the British longbow could pierce plate, I doubt leather really is going to stop it.

OT:

So yeah, obvious study is obvious and clearly should have been done in more detail.
 

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I'm in agreement with the guy that concluded this experiment was useless.

Yes, armor weighs you down and fatigues you faster than if you were unarmored (Regardless of conditioning, though conditioning can reduce the degree to which your performance suffers when armored, and increase unarmored performance)... There were far better results they could have measured and tested.
 

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I guess I am forced to post these videos.

Yes you do tire faster. Not due to the weight, but since the helm restricts breathing. There is a reason helms had visors that would open.
 

Lunar Templar

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theheroofaction said:
breaking news: water is wet. Also: ice is cold
this just in, grass is green and fish are, in fact swimming as we speak

really -.- feel sorry for who ever's tax dallor's went to that waste of time
 

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Kysafen said:
I once tried putting weights into a backpack, and special weights on my legs, for training purposes. That particular session did not exactly go well.

The thing about the experiment was that the test subjects were probably not USED to the weight of the armour. I spend days at a time with my leg weights on, and find that after a couple of days my body adjusts accordingly, almost as if I'm not wearing them at all. I wouldn't second guess that getting a feel for their armour was a regular part of a knight's training.
Is your name Goku? el oh el jay kay

It is an interesting test, though. It could have a huge outcome on the future of RPGs.
 
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I've worn chainmail, and that's damn heavy enough. My friend makes plate armour the modern way, and that's heavy but maneuverable in.

If you fall down though...don't even bother trying to get back up again.
 

SirAxel

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Is this really suppose to be something that a 10 year old can't figure out.Well atleast I got a good laugh out of reading this cheers!
 

emeraldrafael

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well no fucking duh, why do you think they rode big ass fucking horses!?


*ahem* sorry, thats just... that hurts with how obvious that is.
 

Ticonderoga77

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Really? Did this need to be researched? My god they could have just asked bioware since they implement the fatigue system with all of their armor...or you know, a five year old.
 

GundamSentinel

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Good we have scientists to tell us these things. But seriously, the conclusions might be obvious, but the research data itself could be quite interesting.
 

Drake the Dragonheart

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This is a breakthrough? This is news? The sky is blue. The grass is green. Dirt is brown. Swords are sharp. I bet know that is going to become a major breakthrough. "Study finds that swords axes and other metal pointy weapons are sharp."
I seriously wonder sometimes what we are paying these guys for. Stating the blithely obvious?
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
I've worn chainmail, and that's damn heavy enough. My friend makes plate armour the modern way, and that's heavy but maneuverable in.

If you fall down though...don't even bother trying to get back up again.
What is your friend making it out of and what process is he using that's causing that much weight?

I can roll to my feet, sit up, stand, jump, etc in my armor. I know a few people of the more acrobatic mindsets that can kip up from their back in plate.