Scientist Predicts Cargo Zeppelins in the Future

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This is great news! Once airships become commercial, we just need to put London on wheels and blow up the planet, and then we'll be in a Mortal Engines-esque world. How awesome is that?
 

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solidstatemind said:
Dude, being 6'5" and never having found a seat on an airplane outside of the first-class cabin that I can comfortably fit into, I would totally be down with airships. Some innovative company (Virgin, maybe?) should look into a one-off to see what the profit margins look like.

The thing is, I would imagine that properly charted and operated, airships wouldn't be all that much slower. They wouldn't accelerate nearly as fast, but they should be able to reach at least half of the speed or better of jetliners.

Also, think of the land-savings! Instead of miles and miles of runways, you could probably operate a fleet out of the space of maybe 3 football fields!
You just cant put enough structure into and airship to make them capable of high speed flight. The fastest modern airship are only capable of 100mph and thats with making the gas bag from Kevlar. That gives a top speed which is 1/5 of the speed of an airliner. Whats the point of building a mode transport thats slower than taking the train? A 747 can carry 500 poeple from London to Sydney in 26 hours, an airship would take 5 days (ignoring things like having refuel and have enough food to feed people for 5 days)
 

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Kevlar Eater said:
I like the idea of cargo ships too. What my primary fear about them is:


And that scares the crap out of me.
Did you even read the article?

Seriously. Don't post until you've read the article.
 

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albino boo said:
You just cant put enough structure into and airship to make them capable of high speed flight. The fastest modern airship are only capable of 100mph and thats with making the gas bag from Kevlar. That gives a top speed which is 1/5 of the speed of an airliner. Whats the point of building a mode transport thats slower than taking the train? A 747 can carry 500 poeple from London to Sydney in 26 hours, an airship would take 5 days (ignoring things like having refuel and have enough food to feed people for 5 days)
The use would probably mostly be moving cargo. And after a while perhaps a few air cruises would pop up...
 

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Cpt. Red said:
albino boo said:
You just cant put enough structure into and airship to make them capable of high speed flight. The fastest modern airship are only capable of 100mph and thats with making the gas bag from Kevlar. That gives a top speed which is 1/5 of the speed of an airliner. Whats the point of building a mode transport thats slower than taking the train? A 747 can carry 500 poeple from London to Sydney in 26 hours, an airship would take 5 days (ignoring things like having refuel and have enough food to feed people for 5 days)
The use would probably mostly be moving cargo. And after a while perhaps a few air cruises would pop up...


A train can 1000 tons of cargo at 80 mph in weather that will ground any airship. A bulk carrier can carry 350 000 tons at 25 mph, why bother with airships?
 

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If this happens actually happens I can finally live out my sky-pirate dreams!
 

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Anything that makes the world feel more like a Final Fantasy game can only be a good thing.

That, and airships are just generally awesome. Shame about Hindenburg; if not for that, airships wouldn't have as much of a public stigma, and they'd probably be zipping around the world everywhere today.
 

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Now if only jet airplane were somehow rendered ineffective compared to propeller airplanes. And air pirates started to appear, and the US broke up, and the British invaded Hawaii, and I was the leader of the Fortune Hunters.
Now that would be a fun future.
 

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Now we shall take pirates to the SKIES! Muahahaha!!

Seriously, if they do get around to doing this, not only would I deliberately build my own, but I would totally make my own band of airship pirates.

TsunamiWombat said:
Ladies.

Gentlemen.

We are officially in a Steampunk Alternate universe.
Huzzah! Let us all build our own stylish goggles, and get our steam-powered crossbows ready for the Vinci invasion!

A Raging Emo said:
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Sounds cool. It's more a ride, like a boat ride, than a plane. We could have the Flying Titanic! (Though the name Titanic will probably scare people)
How about the Flytanic? *Hides*
Just look out for the FLYceberg.
 

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I was under the impression that we still have a relative Helium shortage. It's not like we're making any more (since the only way to do that is fusion of Hydrogen). What we do "produce" is actually distilled from natural gas, but that's a finite resource. Once it's used, it escapes into space (or at least the upper atmosphere) since it's lighter than the rest of the atmosphere.
 

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Avaholic03 said:
I was under the impression that we still have a relative Helium shortage. It's not like we're making any more (since the only way to do that is fusion of Hydrogen). What we do "produce" is actually distilled from natural gas, but that's a finite resource. Once it's used, it escapes into space (or at least the upper atmosphere) since it's lighter than the rest of the atmosphere.
I would like to point out that fusion is being seriously considered as a possible power source, and should this happen, more helium could likely be made without too much hassle (if fusion power becomes popular).

See this wiki page for more info and the current state of fusion as a potentional power source.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_power#Current_status
 

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Jaeriko said:
Avaholic03 said:
I was under the impression that we still have a relative Helium shortage. It's not like we're making any more (since the only way to do that is fusion of Hydrogen). What we do "produce" is actually distilled from natural gas, but that's a finite resource. Once it's used, it escapes into space (or at least the upper atmosphere) since it's lighter than the rest of the atmosphere.
I would like to point out that fusion is being seriously considered as a possible power source, and should this happen, more helium could likely be made without too much hassle (if fusion power becomes popular).

See this wiki page for more info and the current state of fusion as a potentional power source.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_power#Current_status
That's only true if D-T fusion comes to fruition (as opposed to other fusion fuels, such as Helium-3), and if it's feasible to capture and use the Helium byproduct. Even then, the amount being produced wouldn't be sufficient to sustain a huge fleet of airships.
 

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Silk_Sk said:
JohnSmith said:
As long as we get sky pirates, this will be unbelievably awesome.
fix'd.
So very true but only if they re the cool kind of pirates, like in movies and books. As opposed to the douchey kind of pirate i.e. every other kind.