Scientists On Trial For.... Earthquakes?
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Sooo, I don't know all the circumstances surrounding this case... but.. if they failed at their job, the case should be at least be inspected... to put them at a trial might be a bit of an overreaction... but well, maybe they already got enough evidence against them (manslaughter through culpable negligence, is still a crime).
And I somewhat have enough trust in the law, so they won't get lynched by any angry peasants with pitchforks... on the other hand... I don't really know on what basis the Italian jurisdiction works...
And I somewhat have enough trust in the law, so they won't get lynched by any angry peasants with pitchforks... on the other hand... I don't really know on what basis the Italian jurisdiction works...
...What... just... what...
Ooh! I'll bring the chips!jumjalalabash said:Lets make it a whole damn party. I'll bring the spiked purple soda.ssgt splatter said:Better make it three.Cleril said:Is there room in there for two?Daystar Clarion said:Ugh, really?
That's just...
I can't...
If anyone needs me, I'll be in the angry dome.
Government on trial should be a new reality series, right? Wouldn't that be one of the highest rated programs ever? I'd think so.
Jesus... TBH I thought this was a hoax at first.. But what am I saying?? All scientist want to destroy the world and kill people right? Who would ever think its just about the collection and understanding of facts and knowledge?
Only everyone who isn't a politician
(I say they bastards are trying to cover their own negligence for not funding or listening to the scientists)
Only everyone who isn't a politician
(I say they bastards are trying to cover their own negligence for not funding or listening to the scientists)
It's HAARP ! it creates & amplifies earthquakes, changes temperature, manipulate plasma, induce messaging in your mind, etc.
how can a supposedly "scientific weather research center" in Alaska would be guarded by Navy Seals and out of reach from civilian scientists...
how can a supposedly "scientific weather research center" in Alaska would be guarded by Navy Seals and out of reach from civilian scientists...
Dammit! Quickly, we must flee from the filthy hordes to the monn!Esotera said:
OT: That is utterly retarded.
Like the chinese kings who executed their astromers if they didn't predict an eclipse.
Religiously funded witch-hunts and supression of scientific finds speak pretty loudly in favor of my theory.Jegsimmons said:
No, im no saying that you're stupid specifically, but you can't really deny the phenomenon going on in the macro-scale, right?
If you'd like to read this story from a less *ahem* "impassioned" source, you can read it here:
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/311759
It makes the important distinction that the scientists had told the government that a major earthquake was "improbable", so I can see why they'd be a bit miffed that the entire city was reduced to rubble and three hundred people lost their lives.
Not that Gizmodo, the pinnacle of unbiased reporting, would ever overlook something so important for the opportunity for lavish dramatics.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/311759
It makes the important distinction that the scientists had told the government that a major earthquake was "improbable", so I can see why they'd be a bit miffed that the entire city was reduced to rubble and three hundred people lost their lives.
Not that Gizmodo, the pinnacle of unbiased reporting, would ever overlook something so important for the opportunity for lavish dramatics.
Not only is predicting eartquakes *not* the job of seismologists, there isn't even any way to predict earthquakes to begin with, aside from telling people they've built their cities on fault lines, and even then there's no way to determine when an earthquake will strike there.deckai said:
This trial would be the equilvelent to trying to sue a private eye for failing to read a psychopath's mind and arresting him/her before they get the chance to get their hands on a knife in order to stab someone, even though it isn't even a private eye's job to arrest criminals. In other words; utter bullshit. It's a goddamn shameful that the prosecuters weren't tossed out on their asses the instant they brought this case to court.
when was the last time a witch hunt happened? and isnt that like....less than a percent of the total religious groups? hell, how many fucked up NON religious groups are out there doing the same thing but for another agenda?Housebroken Lunatic said:
i never blame the belief behind it, just the nutjobs who do it.
Also - a quick note - Roman Empire....evil? Imperialist, maybe. Not evil, though. Our entire culture stems from the Romans, and nobody has managed an empire like their's since, and if they were truly evil, they'd have lost their grip within months.[/quote]
If you're suggesting that the Roman Empire hasn't been matched in terms of size, population and power since it's fall, then you're mistaken. The Japanese Empire, Empire of Brazil, Portugese, Second French colonial, Qing dynasty of China, Spanish, Russian, Mongol and British Empires were all superior in those respects, they're also in order according to the aforementioned criteria. This list alone is without roughly five other superior Empires, due to my lack of knowledge about them, however they were indeed superior.
However if you are referring to an "Empire like their's" by some other criteria, then you may well be correct. I agree with you that the Romans weren't evil though, just living in a different culture where imperialist policies were fairly normal, as opposed to the much more anti-conflict (albeit still not anti-conflict enough) views of the modern World.
If you're suggesting that the Roman Empire hasn't been matched in terms of size, population and power since it's fall, then you're mistaken. The Japanese Empire, Empire of Brazil, Portugese, Second French colonial, Qing dynasty of China, Spanish, Russian, Mongol and British Empires were all superior in those respects, they're also in order according to the aforementioned criteria. This list alone is without roughly five other superior Empires, due to my lack of knowledge about them, however they were indeed superior.
However if you are referring to an "Empire like their's" by some other criteria, then you may well be correct. I agree with you that the Romans weren't evil though, just living in a different culture where imperialist policies were fairly normal, as opposed to the much more anti-conflict (albeit still not anti-conflict enough) views of the modern World.
Count me in too. I'll bring the tequila.jumjalalabash said:Love how they are blaming the scientists instead of blaming the office in charge of warning the public.Lets make it a whole damn party. I'll bring the spiked purple soda.ssgt splatter said:Better make it three.Cleril said:Is there room in there for two?Daystar Clarion said:Ugh, really?
That's just...
I can't...
If anyone needs me, I'll be in the angry dome.
Government on trial should be a new reality series, right? Wouldn't that be one of the highest rated programs ever? I'd think so.
I don't mean to interject with your conversation, but I just thought I'd mention that you've actually fallen prey to a common misconception there. Don't worry, it's one people fall into all the time. You see, during the Middle Ages, the Catholic church was actually the source of the majority of scientific advancements, and there's no evidence that they suppressed science at all.Housebroken Lunatic said:
I highly recommend reading this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_misconceptions#Ancient_to_early_modern_history
You can learn all sorts of interesting things, ranging from Catholic patronage of science throughout the Middle and Victorian eras, to mis-attributed quotes. It's a pretty cool page.
Wow that is one "colored" article you have there OP.
Anyway, my opinion: geologists TRY to predict earhquakes as much as possible to help/save people. But it's absolutely not a fool-proof system and they never claimed it is. Therefore, you can thank them if they save you but you can't blame them if they failed to.
Still, this brings attention to an important issue: just how far can you stretch "neglect"?
Can you sue a fireman for not using a perfectly good opportunity to rescue your child?
Can you sue a doctor for goofing your brothers surgery?
Can you sue a welfare organization for not having enough blankets to save all the homeless?
Can you sue a railroad operator for accidentaly setting the tracks wrong resulting in a horrible traincrash? Can you sue his employer for making him work way too long shifts, reducing alertness?
And so on and so forth.
Personally I feel that someone who can convince a jury that he had nothing but the best intentions should not be punished. Or at least be punished much less severely. Because where will it end otherwise? Might as wel sue the guy's mother too since she birthed him, starting the whole thing in the first place! They aleady have to live with the knowledge that their mistake cost lives you know.
Anyway, my opinion: geologists TRY to predict earhquakes as much as possible to help/save people. But it's absolutely not a fool-proof system and they never claimed it is. Therefore, you can thank them if they save you but you can't blame them if they failed to.
Still, this brings attention to an important issue: just how far can you stretch "neglect"?
Can you sue a fireman for not using a perfectly good opportunity to rescue your child?
Can you sue a doctor for goofing your brothers surgery?
Can you sue a welfare organization for not having enough blankets to save all the homeless?
Can you sue a railroad operator for accidentaly setting the tracks wrong resulting in a horrible traincrash? Can you sue his employer for making him work way too long shifts, reducing alertness?
And so on and so forth.
Personally I feel that someone who can convince a jury that he had nothing but the best intentions should not be punished. Or at least be punished much less severely. Because where will it end otherwise? Might as wel sue the guy's mother too since she birthed him, starting the whole thing in the first place! They aleady have to live with the knowledge that their mistake cost lives you know.
Just...but....No...Just No, no one can be that stupid I refuse to believe this is real for the sake of humanity's collective intelligence we need to deny this ever happened and just move on before we all trying to hurt ourselves trying to comprehend this
-takes out a gun- alright people now move along, nothing to see here, forget this happened
-takes out a gun- alright people now move along, nothing to see here, forget this happened