And you still pay taxes. You criticize the economy yet participate in it. Interesting. I am very intelligent for pointing this out.
Scott Cawthon (FNaF guy) cancelled
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That's also not an example of "cancel culture."
The BBC is/was a government entity. Take a guess at another name for "counter-subversion vetting": a background check. You know, that thing that every government employee in every (competent) country undergoes.
As an aside, maybe don't rely on unsourced tweets for informing yourself, even (especially?) if they agree with your personal beliefs.
No, it's not. None of those are necessary premises for someone to buy into in order to want to avoid actively giving money to companies they find repellant.
.....you do realize that this rationale is EXACTLY why people who disagree with him are not supporting him right? He has the right to believe whatever he wants, and support whoever he wants. But when the people he supports are festering shitheads, the people on the receiving end of that "differing opinion" equally have the right to tell him he's a fucking asshole for supporting them, and urge people to not give him any of their money. Because what THEY do with THEIR money, is none of his business....except it IS his business, exactly his business. He takes their money, and then gives it to people they don't like, to fund policies they don't like, and actively harm them. So...yeah, they have every right to tell him to fuck off, and not buy his shit anymore.
That's how the free speech thing works. He says what the fuck he wants, we reply how the fuck we want.
No one is forcing anyone to give their money. Don't like what a company stands for, don't give them money. Simple as that. But don't blame the company for you not knowing what they donate to/believe.
No company is moral, nor do they have to be. Wanting to be a moral person is a noble goal, but good luck finding a company that buying from doesn't compromise your beliefs. Im from St. Louis, the most moral grocery store we have is Wal-Mart. The rest a run by super conservatives right wing religious nut families. But I need to eat.
I bought a car last year. Name me a moral car dealership or production company? I get my internet from Charter, the company that brings in Indian immigrants on slave visas for pennies on the dollar for their IT work.
Companies aren't moral, so you have to pick your battles. If Scott Cawthon donating to right-wing politicians is too much for some people, sure whatever. Personally I think he's a religious nut-job, but that FNaF can be fun. I think a lot of people outraged by Cawthon would be shocked if they knew all the politicians other companies donate to.
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I said he's my favourite. As in the director who's movies I like the most. This does not mean he is a better director than any your aforementioned artists.
That's literally what these people are doing.
I'm not seeing people blaming the company for their own lack of knowledge. They're blaming the company for making the donations. Which... is perfectly reasonable. They did make them. They can take the consequences of their own decisions if they alienate people.
OK, obviously no company (or almost no company) is moral. But that doesn't mean that everyone should just ignore things they personally find objectionable. It's their own damn business who they purchase from. It's a personal metric.
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Sure. But that means you find Titanic and Avatar and Aliens and Terminator preferable to the work of Scorsese or Spielberg. Which, yeah, I find a bit odd.
I'm not judging you; it was meant to be an off-hand comment. Like what you like!
My point isn't that Scott Cawthon suddenly changed and is now some completely different anti-LGBTQ person. He's always been that way. He made games about "Christian values" and a movie about Puritan Christian values.
Anyone who is now shocked or offended or surprised he's donating to Right-Wing Christian conservatives has simply not been paying attention.
That's not entirely correct. (B) I use a green energy supplier -- there's an ethical commitment there, that encourages me to use that company; (B) Fairtrade is a thing. Many companies don't have morals, absolutely, and they profit handsomely all the same (Amazon, Sports Direct, any number of fast fashion brands that pretend they have ethical supply chains), but some do, and I preferentially use those brands. Yeah, there's greenwashing and pinkwashing all over the place, and I can't devote every second of the day to tracking the supply chain of every purchase I make, but some companies do have morals. (C) They absolutely should if they want my business (which, as noted, they don't need because there's enough people who can't/won't go elsewhere). (A) This is murky in this specific case because indie devs really are the company; like this Cawthorn guy is the face of FNAF in the same way that Schafer is the face of Double Fine, and a lot of the apparent values of a company come from those figureheads.
I actually didn't know anything about the guy, and I've never played any FNAF games, so while it's obvious to some, it wouldn't be to me. I can't actively research every purchase I make, I can only deal in what is generally publicly known (accepting that in this case it might have been, but I definitely was unaware).
You say that, but you also say there's no actively anti-LGBT content in FNAF. It can't be both (unless Smith and Wesson also make bouncy castles or something?).
I actually don't mind paying taxes, but I do, at present, object to the way they're spent. I only wish I (but only me) had the same recourse with taxes as I do with purchases.
Of course it is. You just think it's justified and normal.
The source used by the composer of that tweet was apparently the BBC. While the BBC tends to be self-serving or pro-government trash in a lot of cases, it seems reasonable to trust its assessment of itself and its own histroy to err on the side of too little rather than too much criticism.
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People were barred or sometimes removed from employment or advancement because of their politics. Just like McCarthyism in the United States, this constitutes "cancel culture".BBC said:
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This is why I don't take the term "cancel culture' seriously, because it's so often spouted by people who called a football player "a traitor to his country" because he didn't stand during the National Anthem, and interpreted falling NFL ratings as some sort of vindication for their being offended.
"I hate cancel culture. That's why I'm not watching NFL in the hope it goes bankrupt and they force those players to not take the knee."
It's not really that unreasonable to learn something about someone later.
Nobody researches the background of everybody who produces something they buy before they buy it. That doesn't somehow then mean that if they learn something objectionable later, they're not justified in withdrawing their business.
It's the consumer's own damn business.
I think anybody can do whatever they please with their money. FNaF guy, people offended by FNaF guy, etc.
I also think it's incredibly disingenuous to pretend this guy's career isn't over, and not in his own terms, no matter the PR pretending otherwise.
And for the record I don't care for him or his games or his Republican leanings.
I also think it's incredibly disingenuous to pretend this guy's career isn't over, and not in his own terms, no matter the PR pretending otherwise.
And for the record I don't care for him or his games or his Republican leanings.
I guess so, but retiring with a net worth of $60 million is still far beyond the dreams of most people. It's difficult for the sympathy barrel to overflow.
Maybe people aren't discussing events from forty years ago because they're from, I dunno, forty years ago?
I'd rank Avatar, T1, T2, and Aliens from "good" to "excellent" - mostly the latter for all of them bar Avatar. True Lies is simply average.
Again, not cancel culture.
If you want actual examples of cancel culture in sport, you can look at Ollie Robinson - tweets resurface from nine years ago, and...he's gone. Not just from the team, but banned from all international cricket until further notice. Or to use another example, this time from the music field, take Daniel Elder.
Yeah, we know. They're just replicating 'controversy' like JK Rowling, Enid Blyton or Gina Carano being 'cancelled'.