Scott Pilgrim gets dominated.
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Meh.
The premise of Scott Pilgram just sounds so completely stupid. And the expendables just looks like a weak excuse to throw a bunch of ageing action movie actors together into a giant mess of explosions and... not much else. So neither film looks all that appealing to me.
The premise of Scott Pilgram just sounds so completely stupid. And the expendables just looks like a weak excuse to throw a bunch of ageing action movie actors together into a giant mess of explosions and... not much else. So neither film looks all that appealing to me.
I haven't seen either yet, but I'd be more likely to see The Expendables first. Scott Pilgrim never seemed that interesting to me. I found zero appeal in it, whereas I'd be more inclined to see a cheesy action fest starring Stallone. Maybe it has to do with the source material, I don't know. There's just nothing about it that seems interesting to me, and I'm guy open to any kind of film. Maybe I'll give it watch one day, but I'm not interested in doing so now.
Yeah, I don't think Scott Pilgrim is the only film to use that message. That doesn't really convince me to go see it.Kavonde said:
Neither does that.Kavonde said:
I saw Scott Pilgrim a couple of days ago, and it was pretty awesome.
I thought it would be bad, but it turned out to be awesome actually. It's not a film that is easy to explain or describe though, and I suppose that is one of its failings. You need to see it to properly understand it.
I thought it would be bad, but it turned out to be awesome actually. It's not a film that is easy to explain or describe though, and I suppose that is one of its failings. You need to see it to properly understand it.
I liked SP. I'm a moron when it comes to movies or appreciating them, and in general I don't like going to movies. I didn't even get have of the retro gaming references, but I still thought it was enjoyable. The story was interesting, the non-boss characters seemed more realistic than I expected (I don't know how much that accounts for in a fantasy setting but w/e)and the action scenes were very exciting.
Scott Pilgrim is an oddly pitched movie.
Ok, for starters if you weren't raised in the 8 / 16 bit era, or at least had positive exposure to it, it'll already come off as gimmicky to you.
Pair that with the lead role going to a guy who needs to find a new role to save his career. You've scared off more people.
It's riddled with nerd culture references. You've scared off more. Even more from the nerds whom more or less resent the fact that we've become marketable.
And it's not your typical fluff Mr. Dreamy with no flaws enters the plot line to sweep Ms. flaws off her feet. Women mourn the complex plot direction.
Sift through the reputation, and more or less accepting the comic-book-ification of it at face value what you're presented with is a pretty good movie. It's certainly original. It's just a marketing nightmare.
Ok, for starters if you weren't raised in the 8 / 16 bit era, or at least had positive exposure to it, it'll already come off as gimmicky to you.
Pair that with the lead role going to a guy who needs to find a new role to save his career. You've scared off more people.
It's riddled with nerd culture references. You've scared off more. Even more from the nerds whom more or less resent the fact that we've become marketable.
And it's not your typical fluff Mr. Dreamy with no flaws enters the plot line to sweep Ms. flaws off her feet. Women mourn the complex plot direction.
Sift through the reputation, and more or less accepting the comic-book-ification of it at face value what you're presented with is a pretty good movie. It's certainly original. It's just a marketing nightmare.
I've noticed a trend in opinions on Scott Pilgrim coming from this thread. Basically, everyone can be lumped into one of three categories:
1. Hasn't seen it; thinks it sucks.
2. Hasn't seen it; thinks it looks good.
3. Has seen it; showers it with mountains of praise.
I think we should all take a moment to think about what we see, or rather, don't see, among those three categories. There is clearly an answer to be found from this information.
1. Hasn't seen it; thinks it sucks.
2. Hasn't seen it; thinks it looks good.
3. Has seen it; showers it with mountains of praise.
I think we should all take a moment to think about what we see, or rather, don't see, among those three categories. There is clearly an answer to be found from this information.
Since your avatar is from PW I shall respond with a-L1250 said:
HOLD IT!
This board is at a huge bias because its about gaming. The small demographic this movie is aimed towards is what this forum is made of so assuming that a unanimous liking of the movie means the movie is flawless is not accurate!
I find it funny how the majority of hipsters found scott pilgrim through the movie, and became what they themselves hate so much.Skeleton Jelly said:
Movie was pretty cool and did the series justice. And it didn't make gamers look stupid (the references were alright and not forced)
Well, its very simple to see why. It doesnt have a demographic.
becuase i work at a theatre, and a busy one for our area, i saw the rundown of demographics and it went something like this:
DISCLAIMER: The demographics of this post are only representable at the theatre I work at, and I can not speak for other theatres in other regions.
Eat, Pray, Love: Old People, Mothers who did not want to see Expendables iwth thier significant others, Overly homosexual people (you know who i mean, andi have nothing against them).
The Expendables: MEN (of all ages), Women who did not want to swallow the crap of EPL, anyone sneaking into a movie.
The Other Guys: People dating, People married, people who compromised between Expendables and EPL. Groups of people who could not get tickets to EXBLS and EPL.
Inception: Old people who saw Titanic, Old people who saw EPL, women who think Dicaprio is hot, people who think he is "talented" (he's not the actor Titanic made him out to be). Young adults who want to appear smart and give their analysis of a movie they THINK they understand.
Despicable Me: Children, Teens, Tweens.
Cats and Dogs 2: See Despicable Me.
Grown Ups: See The Other Guys.
Salt: well... really no one this week. Normally its just men and women who want to see Angelina Jolie get back in the acting business.
Dinner For Schmucks: People who have not seen it yet and LIKE Steve Carrol (yes, he is a deal breaker for that movie, suprising as it is.)
Step Up 3D: "Hood Rats", white kids who like to act black (accept you are not and MOVE ON!), anyone who thinks they are that rap or hip hop speaks to them (chances are, if you live in the suburbs, it doesnt.)
and finally Scott Pilgrim: People who like Michael Cera, fans of the graphic novel, fans of Juno, fans of offbeat teen movies who enjoy people like Michael Cera and Luke Wilson (you know, how they bring that dry witty sense of humour to the screen), whatever was left that couldnt sneak into EXBLS and do not like movies like TOG.
yeah.... i know, that sounds like i have no idea what i'm saying, and in reality, I'm not an expert, but that "whatever is left" demographical mix isnt a large group, and the movie sufers not having big name actors besides Michael Cera. Its just the sad, unfortunate timing of opening with the Overcompensating Expendables and the pathetically bland cookie-cutter romance movie with an A-list star.
becuase i work at a theatre, and a busy one for our area, i saw the rundown of demographics and it went something like this:
DISCLAIMER: The demographics of this post are only representable at the theatre I work at, and I can not speak for other theatres in other regions.
Eat, Pray, Love: Old People, Mothers who did not want to see Expendables iwth thier significant others, Overly homosexual people (you know who i mean, andi have nothing against them).
The Expendables: MEN (of all ages), Women who did not want to swallow the crap of EPL, anyone sneaking into a movie.
The Other Guys: People dating, People married, people who compromised between Expendables and EPL. Groups of people who could not get tickets to EXBLS and EPL.
Inception: Old people who saw Titanic, Old people who saw EPL, women who think Dicaprio is hot, people who think he is "talented" (he's not the actor Titanic made him out to be). Young adults who want to appear smart and give their analysis of a movie they THINK they understand.
Despicable Me: Children, Teens, Tweens.
Cats and Dogs 2: See Despicable Me.
Grown Ups: See The Other Guys.
Salt: well... really no one this week. Normally its just men and women who want to see Angelina Jolie get back in the acting business.
Dinner For Schmucks: People who have not seen it yet and LIKE Steve Carrol (yes, he is a deal breaker for that movie, suprising as it is.)
Step Up 3D: "Hood Rats", white kids who like to act black (accept you are not and MOVE ON!), anyone who thinks they are that rap or hip hop speaks to them (chances are, if you live in the suburbs, it doesnt.)
and finally Scott Pilgrim: People who like Michael Cera, fans of the graphic novel, fans of Juno, fans of offbeat teen movies who enjoy people like Michael Cera and Luke Wilson (you know, how they bring that dry witty sense of humour to the screen), whatever was left that couldnt sneak into EXBLS and do not like movies like TOG.
yeah.... i know, that sounds like i have no idea what i'm saying, and in reality, I'm not an expert, but that "whatever is left" demographical mix isnt a large group, and the movie sufers not having big name actors besides Michael Cera. Its just the sad, unfortunate timing of opening with the Overcompensating Expendables and the pathetically bland cookie-cutter romance movie with an A-list star.
OBJECTION!Douk said:
The question of the movie's flawlessness is irrelevant to this case! Scott Pilgrim vs. The World is targeting this
This actually comes to little surprise. They chose an awful time to release this.You've got the battle of the sexes here. You have the ultra macho testosterone soaked "Expendables" and the fluffy romantic feminine get up of "Eat,Pray,Love". The advertising also could have been a put off. The trailers for it looked rather stupid to be honest. And I didn't even want to see it-I was actually dragged to see it. But I saw the film-and I absolutely freaking loved it. I don't even like Michael Cera's awkward demeanor-but it worked here. But the marketing appeal of the two polar opposite films that released that day was going to win out anyway. Scott Pilgrim,while amazing, is towards a ridiculously small demographic in comparison.
I'm 34, so I'm not in this movies demographic (18-30 it seems) and I've read a couple of the graphic novels while in a store, but I hated every second of it while doing it. There is no way the movie can make me change my mind about the character of Scott Pilgrim and the world he inhabits.
And you want to know why that is? I don't want to contribute a penny to the account of O'Malley and help usher in more of this drivel into comic shops.
Why is it that if someone hates Bobby Kotick and badmouths Activision because of it, nobody says a word; yet if someone says they don't like this wannabe manga that draws on every cliche from every romcom ever made and adds in some video game references they are the epitome of evil?
And you want to know why that is? I don't want to contribute a penny to the account of O'Malley and help usher in more of this drivel into comic shops.
Why is it that if someone hates Bobby Kotick and badmouths Activision because of it, nobody says a word; yet if someone says they don't like this wannabe manga that draws on every cliche from every romcom ever made and adds in some video game references they are the epitome of evil?
The defense rests its case. I think we can all agree that Scott Pilgrim vs. The WorldDouk said:L1250 said:
You're right, darn it!
the prosecution has nothing else to say.
It's funny how people judge movies without seeing them. I had a friend who refused to watch Sherlock Holmes, based on the trailers, casting an American as Holmes and how the posters made RDJr look, he felt it was butchering the franchise. He'd literally get to fingers in the ear "I'm not listening" agravation while I tried to convince him not to like it, but simply to reserve judgement until after seeing it.
A few months later he's seen it on DVD, he actually liked it and I got a sheepish apology.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that I have seen Scott Pilgrim and loved it, but I'm also going to see The Expendables tonight. Afterwards I shall formulate an informed (yet subjective) opinion on which one I preferred. Though most likely I'll love both.
A few months later he's seen it on DVD, he actually liked it and I got a sheepish apology.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that I have seen Scott Pilgrim and loved it, but I'm also going to see The Expendables tonight. Afterwards I shall formulate an informed (yet subjective) opinion on which one I preferred. Though most likely I'll love both.
^^This^^Casual Shinji said:
Gotta say that Pilgrim not doing all that well on opening weekend isn't a very big surprise. And even though Movie Bob liked it, his review convinced me that I wouldn't be seeing it. He pretty much said that didn't recognize these two references(which I don't exactly recall, since after all I didn't recognize them) that you wouldn't enjoy it. And frankly, it's a no-name cast for me. I recognized the face of the star, but only from "teen movie" commercials that I've seen. When you narrow your demographic that much, you're not going to pull in the big bucks.