Scumbag Steals Game Consoles From Kids With Cancer

hooksashands

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This whole incident has me more curious than outraged. I want to know why he did, what his motivation was.

Like I said, maybe he has a kid who's sick too. Maybe he's poor and can't afford an expensive game console.

There are two sides to every story. Sometimes more.
 

FernandoV

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If he had stolen the consoles from healthy kids would it have had the same impact? I think the issue should be that he STOLE SOMETHING, not that he stole it from sick children. Sheesh.
 

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While he should be punished, I think once we get to the point that we start agreeing it would be alright to kill him for stealing games consoles our moral high ground starts slipping a bit.

I DO think he should be punished of course, I'm not the founder of his fan club like that other dude on here.
 

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hooksashands said:
Everyone stop for a moment and entertain this thought:

What if the dude has a kid with leukemia, and that kid wants a videogame console for Christmas? What if he can't afford one, just like he can't afford treatment? What if he isn't stealing it to pawn, but stealing it because he loves his child more than the children who already have the care they need?

Eh?
Then he should have known better than to steal from kids with cancer. Duh.
 

hooksashands

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Nobody knows who this guy is or what his story's like, but they're howling for his blood all the same?

@ZephrC - I would suggest reading more carefully, friend. That wasn't the question.
 

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There really is no sob story that makes it acceptable to steal from children with cancer. Nor do any stories which plausibly ameliorate the crime fit with the fact that the thief stole not one console but FIVE. C'mon, guys. I understand playing devil's advocate, but there is no dewy-eyed tyke waiting in a skid-row appartment whose dying wish to their down-on-their-heels single parent was that Santa bring them FIVE GAME CONSOLES.

Nor would the bubbling sense of rage so many are expressing be so great if a thief stole from a store, or even from the car of some well-to-do shopper (not that that would make the crime okay.)

This thief chose to steal from a target that was less difficult but more unconscionable. And given the scale and target of the theft, chances extremely high are that they stole them to sell.

I don't necessarily want the thief ground into powder. But what they did was despicable. And they deserve to be punished. They deserve to go to prison. And if the stolen property can't be retrieved, they should have to replace it.
 

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Make him playtest the next Obsidian game til it is totally bug free. Not only is it a hellish punishment, but it will result in a good game for those children to enjoy. As motivation let him know you will remove 1 finger for each bug that slips by. When you run out of fingers, on to the toes. Then the testicles. That'll sort him out.

Poster child for birth control right there.
 

justnotcricket

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Bleh. People like this are a waste of oxygen. I hope the book they throw at him is the collected works of Robert Jordan. On glossy paper. In harcover.

(*PS - Not that I associate this sort of thing with Robert Jordan, but you've got to admit he did write a lot of fairly long books)
 

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Adi Segasummasuvila said:
Warachia said:
Murderers don't leave several victims to suffer.
You pretty much reached new retardness level.

Most of the worlds cancer kids dont have anything similar even to begin with and im sure they dont suffer any more or less cause of that. There is like 1000 more important things cancer patients need - good medications, good doctors, healthy food, people who love and care about them and so on and on.

Whining about some missing game consols is beyond me. Its just ... unbeliveble. You guys are total morons or you really dont have ability to see bigger picture.

Its like ... almost starved to death people worring about calories
If you don't agree with another person's opinion that is fine. Don't insult that person just because you don't agree with their opinion. Insulting other people is against the forum rules.

On Topic:I feel really bad for the children. What type of sick individual steals from children from with cancer? This guy that stole the game consoles is going to be seen as a monster for the rest of his life for what he did.
 

Tekkawarrior

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Everyone is acting high and mighty, the protectors of justice. What if he had a good reason? Don't tell me "there are no good reasons to steal from sick children" because that's total crap.

People are starving to death and everyone is QQing over some PS3's.
 

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Tekkawarrior said:
Everyone is acting high and mighty, the protectors of justice. What if he had a good reason? Don't tell me "there are no good reasons to steal from sick children" because that's total crap.

People are starving to death and everyone is QQing over some PS3's.
There are no good reasons to steal from sick children. If he has a family they are going to be left worse off than they were before because he is most likely going to prison for what he did. This guy is going to be seen as a monster for what he has done. Stealing anything from sick children is both wrong and immoral.
 

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gof22 said:
Tekkawarrior said:
Everyone is acting high and mighty, the protectors of justice. What if he had a good reason? Don't tell me "there are no good reasons to steal from sick children" because that's total crap.

People are starving to death and everyone is QQing over some PS3's.
There are no good reasons to steal from sick children. If he has a family they are going to be left worse off than they were before because he is most likely going to prison for what he did. This guy is going to be seen as a monster for what he has done. Stealing anything from sick children is both wrong and immoral.
I disagree. But that's just my opinion.
 

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Adi Segasummasuvila said:
Iwata said:
I know, I know, report and move on, "playing into his hands" and all that, but fuck! Enough is enough! WE GET IT! YOU DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT! *gasp* *collective shock*

Satisfied yet?!
No, not yet.

Let me explain - stealing is wrong, but being okey with idea of killing actual human being for stealing 5 game consoles?

Anyway, let me quote you again:

Iwata said:
Now try and regrow some morals.
Yeah ...
Again you presume to quote me on things I didn't say.

I never called for the man's demise, and I don't care what his punishment is, as long as it is harsh, and fits the crime. I don't call for the man's execution, but I do think his case should be exceptionally handled. The ultimate goal of the penal system is not only to punish, but to correct people to work well within our society. This guy, with his "unusual" crime, proves that not only can't he do that, but he's on a different level of scum altogether. Even scumbags have a low standard by which they judge themselves (the reason child molesters have to be kept segregated from other criminals), but this guy's standards are apparently so low that he has to look for them with a shovel.

You, however, keep making the same old tired arguments that seemingly only work if you have no soul, or (yes, again) morals to speak of. You can't see past the five consoles. You're limited by that. A normal person looks at this and thinks "the scumbag stole from children with a a deadly illness", the consoles being an afterthought. Your thought process, however, is reversed. You keep thinking that it's only consoles, completely oblivious to the fact that it is the target of the theft, not so much the material stolen, that is disgusting.

But then again, if I have to explain all this to you, Morality 101, then maybe you're just hopeless to begin with. Either that, or you're the guy who took them. Those are the only two explanations I can think of.
 

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Tekkawarrior said:
Everyone is acting high and mighty, the protectors of justice. What if he had a good reason? Don't tell me "there are no good reasons to steal from sick children" because that's total crap.

People are starving to death and everyone is QQing over some PS3's.
Its not really about hte kids. Well, oka yeah, it is. but its just in generaly that stealing is wrong, so making a wrong against kids who have done nothing to you to make right with the world as your enemy. You're harming the innocent in other words. its like... Its like saying the kids in Dafur should murder each other and be used as soldiers by older men so that they can eat. If he's that desperate, go get government aid. you dont need to steal. Hell, grow a garden. My mom and I used to live in an apartment because we were poor by pretty much every means of the word and she had a window ledge graden that we grew food from. She didnt break into the apartment next to us and steal the family's TV because tehy were more well off then we were.

And yeah, the kids have more to worry about then their videogames. yes, if five good samauritans wanted to, they could buy five new consoles for the kids and write it off as a tax deductable "donation". But the fact that these kids have cancer. Have you ever lived with smeone with cancer? or known someone with it when they were young? i watched two of my cousins have it and it pretty much ate both from the inside out. They used books, games, tv, different things things just to keep their minds off the cancer and to keep a positive attitude (which has been proven to help heal people faster).

So is he killing kids? no. Is he hurting them? no, not really. They'll get over it eventually or just get new systems. Does he have a good reason? maybe, its all speculation, you odnt know that guy's story.

BUt is it morally right? No, not in the least. There really is no reason to steal, especially from a hospital. A place of public service that helps those when they are injured. I bet if the hospital let this go, and decided instead to see if that guy ever got hurt and came to him to just deny him service, he'd cry and complain saying you couldnt do that and it was morally wrong. And of course the media would have a field day. There's just no reason to steal. Its a commandment for Cripe's sake and even if your not religious, you have to look at it if you were the kids.

If YOU had cancer (well, not just you specifically, everyone who said this isnt the big deal everyone's making it to be), if you were a kid, or hell, even if its just you being healthy ole you. Would you still have this opinion if he stole from you? Would you look at it and go, "oh, he has a good reason I'm sure. he's probably going to sell my couple hundred dollar piece of hardware that I use for enjoyment and someone close to me or I myself spent a few hundred dollars on. Let him go, there's no reason to persecute him to such an extent. Just a small slap on the wrists and wag of a finger will do."
 

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Unforgivable. Not enough to justify a death sentence, but there are much better places to steal from. Devices meant to ease the suffering of children? This is ridiculous. If you need food, there are food banks. The indignity of taking a handout is infinitely less severe than the indignity of stealing from a hospital, taking the devices meant for children under its care, devices meant to help the children feel less worthless as they lie in bed all day, hoping the chemotherapy will work and wishing they were strong enough to move. Obviously, this may be a bit of hyperbole, but this is really just insane!