Its harsh that the developers thought they had written permission to go ahead with this project for the last 8 years, just for Sega to change there minds. IT's not as if anyone's making money if it. My only thought is that maybe sega themselves are in the middle of making a new streets of rage game.
Sega Puts a Stop to Streets of Rage Fan Game
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I, too, remember this. That blows hard.gussy1z said:
Anyways, I started lurking around a few moments ago and quickly found a days' old download link. Now I'm waiting for the whooping 275m file to finish 'loading (hopefully it's not some killer virus, or something), to see what got SEGA's panties in a bunch so much.
I wasn't even gonna do it until I found out that the version they cancelled, 5.0 was the very last one. The game was done. Finished. After 8 years the project, which had been called an obsession by many, was finally over; so, I was like "Fuck it," and went to see what was up.
Either way, the gig is up for SEGA on this thing. They had 8 years to act and decided to get testy when all was said and done and the game was finished and out in the open. If I could easily find it on my own, just some days removed from them turning the hammer on the devs, I can tell in no uncertain terms that it will only get worse for them. What they managed was to give Bombergames free advertising and swell interest for the project.
My parting words would be that I'm pretty sure that SEGA's legal department must be filled with dummies.
Quite literally, this is spilled milk. This is the internet circa 2011, Sega, The link was up long enough to be downloaded thousands of times. Trying to contain this won't work terribly well. In fact, it might kind of backfire given all the publicity SoRR is now receiving.
This.Iglock said:
if you can argue it's an improvement, criticism or parody of the orginal, then sega can't do anything about it, take it to court.
It's always a head slapping dilemma when the fans create a better version of a classic game than the original creators do; and the original creators pull the plug to retain copyright enforcement.
Bet Sega was feeling pretty salty when they found out about that fangame.
Bet Sega was feeling pretty salty when they found out about that fangame.
yes, i will admit, copyright laws are there for reasons. but this isn't like they were trying to steal anything and there is such a thing as "having a sense of humor". companies have a choice not to file these complaints. look at nintendo and how many parodies there are of that. look at sony and see how many parodies there are of that. look at legend of zelda, metal gear solid, half life 2, portal, halo, everything. these are all companies that understand that by letting the fans show their support, it may open up a whole new market base. people who have never played halo or call of duty might see a fan video based on it, become interested and try it out.ArmorArmadillo said:
now im not saying it should be ok, but i honestly don't see a problem if no profit is involved. and this isn't the first time that Sega has taken something way too seriously.
We have to, for soon we will be sent to a brighter, hotter place.Fronzel said:
OT: It does really suck, but to be fair, IP laws require you to protect your IP, else you loose it.
I'm hoping this may be because Sega is working on Streets Of Rage 4, but given their track record with demolishing their own franchises I say leave it to the other guy.
I'm not sure about 'wasted'. At least they were smart enough to release it before pre-releasing it. So it's out there, people got it before SEGA C&Ded them... and it will live out there forever on teh interwebs. I see some active torrents for it.
The ones really wasting an opportunity here are SEGA. Did I say wasting? Pissing away.
The ones really wasting an opportunity here are SEGA. Did I say wasting? Pissing away.
Gave it a crack already, and it was awesome. It's got mad amounts of hard work; it still feels like a Streets of Rage game, but it is including multiple selectable characters (including Adam plus a few secret ones), redone soundtrack, redone levels, extra visual effects like transparencies, optional redone particle effects it seems, visual filtering, joypad support, unlockable extra mini-games including a freaking volleyball one, variable paths, bike chases (don't ask), 2-player coop, CPU-coop, what looks like leaderboards, etc.,...hell, there's even a level editor, from what I can gather--yes, a freaking level editor to make SOR levels... ...and a shop to buy stuff, kinda like MvC2, I think.
It does have a few odd shortcomings (it has crashed twice on me, but it stays mostly stable) but nothing that should be a deal breaker for anyone that would've been interested in a cool retro beat-em up.
Honestly, what the guys at Bombergames accomplished is nothing short of insane. It was a labor of love through and through, and a massive step forward from the previous version (which I also had the joy of playing at one point). Had the game have SEGA's marketing push, it would do freaking wonders for their reputation. The whole thing is that good. It, imho, easily blows away current professional offerings like Megaman 9 or 10, or any other retro inspired games these days, and this guys coded the entire thing on their own.
How hard can it be for SEGA to do the same as western companies? Take Bethesda for example, they left a bunch of tools laying around for gamers to fuck around with, and they're not suing anybody.
I understand if they want a cut of the whole thing, but the best way for them to do that would have been to just let the whole thing play out as it did, hire the devs, make a deal, and release an expanded, more polished version under their stead. Instead, they soured everyone's view of the whole thing.
What a sad waste...
It does have a few odd shortcomings (it has crashed twice on me, but it stays mostly stable) but nothing that should be a deal breaker for anyone that would've been interested in a cool retro beat-em up.
Honestly, what the guys at Bombergames accomplished is nothing short of insane. It was a labor of love through and through, and a massive step forward from the previous version (which I also had the joy of playing at one point). Had the game have SEGA's marketing push, it would do freaking wonders for their reputation. The whole thing is that good. It, imho, easily blows away current professional offerings like Megaman 9 or 10, or any other retro inspired games these days, and this guys coded the entire thing on their own.
How hard can it be for SEGA to do the same as western companies? Take Bethesda for example, they left a bunch of tools laying around for gamers to fuck around with, and they're not suing anybody.
I understand if they want a cut of the whole thing, but the best way for them to do that would have been to just let the whole thing play out as it did, hire the devs, make a deal, and release an expanded, more polished version under their stead. Instead, they soured everyone's view of the whole thing.
What a sad waste...
But they DID ask permission from Sega before getting real about making this game, Sega didn't think they would get this far in the project probably so let them run loose (AKA Ignore them). Now that game released, they though:fletch_talon said:
Guy A: Oh, Shit, we shouldn't have let this happen, this are showing how horrible game makers we are.
Guy B:Let's sue them!
Guy C: But couldn't we work out a deal which benefits both sides? That way we would look less like jerks and making some money out of it.
Guy's Boss: You actually showed some clever thinking Guy C, so you are fired! We don't have such concept of good game making or clever ideas in here, we just want to make another shitty Sonic 3d plataform, this having a giant gay pink T-Rex as a Sonic friend.
Now, go searching before going all jerk over it, your troll.
You suggest I get my facts straight and call me a troll...Diablo2000 said:
Can you spell hypocrite?
Better yet, can you read the following paragraph?
That edit was added almost immediately after I posted as I realised my mistake. So unless you've been sitting with my post quoted in your "Reply to Thread" box since somewhere around 12:15am this morning (AEST) then you don't have an excuse for insulting me or otherwise making a fool of yourself.fletch_talon said:
For your benefit, I'll repeat.
If they asked Sega if they could use AND distribute (please note the bold) their copyrighted material, then they should feel free to keep it up.
If however they just asked to use it, and did not dscuss distribution, then they havn't got a leg to stand on and they should have seen this coming.
Thankfully, I already have the game, and the UGC, so I'm covered.
Not too smart a move by SEGA. By doing this, all they're doing is encouraging people to find copies of the fan game instead of buying games from them.
And I'm quite sure the thing has spread so far that it's impossible now to remove it fully from the web.
Not too smart a move by SEGA. By doing this, all they're doing is encouraging people to find copies of the fan game instead of buying games from them.
And I'm quite sure the thing has spread so far that it's impossible now to remove it fully from the web.
So much for user-made content seeing the light of day. Thousands will never know the joy of kicking a bulldozer to a stop.
