Sexual Predators (mature topic)

[Platti]

Yes I would. One black mark on a person's history is not enough for me to condemn him, besides he did his time.

Well, if I hired him depends on many things.
One, how long was he in prison?
Two, do kids come in the store?
Three, do I have kids?

If yes to any of the three, no.

"How long was he in prison?"

"Yes."

I think you see the problem there.

That really made me laugh quite loudly. Considering the time I'm posting, and the fact my flatmates have uni tomorrow, that isn't the smartest thing I could've done today.


On topic: I'd have to be a shop owner and in that situation to really give a noteworthy opinion, but from an outsiders point of view - Someone with no kids etc etc - I'd give a tentative yes. Surely he's not going to repeat his crime when the eyes of the neighbourhood are upon him... and various other reasons.

 

[RIOgreatescapist]

Your tale has touched me and I sincerely hope you get hired Joe..I mean.. Kakashi on crack *wink*wink*

 

[Macgyvercas]

Having an innate distrust of every single human being on this planet, I hire him. If he is that valuable of an employee, his past doesn't really matter to me.

However, at first sign of that past coming back and making itself shown in a negative way, he will be let go.

Pretty much just took the words right outta my mouth.

 

[Udyrfrykte]

I would probably make him sit down and have an open talk with me, and I'd judge from that. I would need to know his side of the story.
It's just so hard to forgive a real child molester.

 

[BonsaiK]

So I've got a question for people out there in the world...

Joe Mc'techdude is a technician who has never missed a day of work, is bright, works hard, and never asks for a raise. You don't personally know Joe, but you've heard a -lot- of good things about them.

One day, Joe gets arrested for sexually assaulting a child. You do not know the age of the child, how he feels on the matter, if it's actually true, etc. ALL YOU KNOW is that he was arrested for sexually assaulting a child.

Many years later, after being released from prison, he has been filed in the system for his crime, and everyone on your block has been informed of what he is.

For some reason, you are an owner of a local electronics/general tech-goods store. About a week after Joe has entered your neighborhood, he comes into your office and explains that due to his past, he's been unable to get a job anywhere in town that his profession as a tech-guy can be used. He claims that no one will hire him due to his crimes he commited.

Joe has made no mention of why he commited the crimes he did, or if he feels bad about what he did, etc. All you know is that he was recently released from jail, that his crimes were that of sexual assault of a child, and that his resumee he turned in is the best you've seen in months, as he has worked for many top-of-the-class companies.

You are now given a choice, you may not ask any questions to Joe regarding his past. You must choose if you hire him on the spot, or if you don't hire him at all. Do you hire him?

I'd hire him. It's better the devil you know.

 

[Kakashi on crack]

Also, I'm interested as to how this idea came about. Mind providing some context OP?

Was watching fox news out of a mix of boredom and desire to argue over something. They were demonizing some sexual predator who had served his time and moved to my area. Kinda pissed me off that people tend to demonize these kinds of people so often so I decided to pose a question to the community to gather more information of why people might do such, and figured the escapist was mature enough to answer a question like this seriously. (Also felt it was more suited for the off-topic board than an advise board since I don't care about advice, I am looking for different opinions of the matter.

Edited post to explain in more detal.

 

[inFAMOUSCowZ]

As long as he is good at his job, and doesn't cause any problems, I'd hire him.

 

[WrongSprite]

I'm not allowed to ask him questions?

Well seeing as this is set in some bizarre alternate reality, I guess I'll just use my mind reading powers to find out if he's going to commit a crime again.

 

[Gralian]

If the "child" in question was a 17 or 16 year old girl and it was more a case of sex than "molestation" it's a different case altogether than someone who actually molested a 5 year old child in a van somewhere.

The lack of context makes this ridiculously impossible to answer.

 

[game-lover]

So... Is it a certainty then that where before, he was only accused, now, it's been learned that he was convicted?

Going by this, I would hire him. It's not like it's a toy store or a place you can always see kids. Give him the benefit of a doubt. Especially because in this society, they could equate mere statutory rape in the same vein as pedophilia.

So I would. Perhaps I'd put him in that probationary period some companies do to see if they'll keep a person on permanently or not.

 

[FlyAwayAutumn]

Yes I would. One black mark on a person's history is not enough for me to condemn him, besides he did his time.

Well, if I hired him depends on many things.
One, how long was he in prison?
Two, do kids come in the store?
Three, do I have kids?

If yes to any of the three, no.

"How long was he in prison?"

"Yes."

I think you see the problem there.

That really made me laugh quite loudly. Considering the time I'm posting, and the fact my flatmates have uni tomorrow, that isn't the smartest thing I could've done today.

Yes, well I'm glad I made someone laugh in any case. It's what I do.

 

[DefunctTheory]

No.

One: Even if 'Joe' does not do customer service , people would KNOW I hired him. That alone would lose me local business.

Two: I cannot hire someone I do not respect, and someone who has sexually assaulted a child is someone I do NOT respect.

 

[Blue_vision]

Was watching fox news out of a mix of boredom and desire to argue over something. They were demonizing some sexual predator who had served his time and moved to my area. Kinda pissed me off that people tend to demonize these kinds of people so often so I decided to pose a question to the community to gather more information of why people might do such, and figured the escapist was mature enough to answer a question like this seriously. (Also felt it was more suited for the off-topic board than an advise board since I don't care about advice, I am looking for different opinions of the matter.

I was thinking something to that effect

I think this plays into more general theories of crime. For instance, if a killer moved into your neighborhood, how would you react? Well it would obviously depend on what he killed for. How sorrowful/regretful was he afterwards? What caused him to commit the act? These are all issues that for the most part get left out of the legal process, which is a terrible shame because in a case where a man kills someone else in a fit of rage, becomes depressed and vows to prevent such an action from ever occurring again, will face basically the exact same charge as someone who didn't feel remorse (or whatever.)

Similarly, I'd say that if the ex-predator was genuinely sorry for his actions and was taking steps to prevent such a thing from happening, I'd be more than happy to help him. If he either wasn't remorseful or didn't care about the way people viewed him, I don't think it's my place for me to help him, though somebody still should.
I'd say that only a tiny fraction of people in prison today genuinely should be in prison, and those people that should be inside still need tonnes of psychological counselling and steps to ensure that they are safe if and when they are released. But so many convictions and prison sentences are just useless, rooted in deeper issues such as poverty and broken homes, or drug or mental problems. So I won't make assumptions on ex-convicts, and will judge them as I would any normal person, taking more care to help them than I would an ordinary person.

 

[SanguineSymphony]

I'd probably hire him. I don't see how he can harm your business unless some shady news team does an expose on him.

 

[Jedoro]

Yes. When someone begins to show trust in him, it can rebuild the community's faith in him as a human being. If he's repentant, his past won't resurface and he'll live a relatively normal life from here on out. If not, I'll report him to the authorities myself if I witness anything.

 

[Trivun]

I'd hire him at that point. However, as it isn't mentioned in the OP whether or not I eventually find out the truth behind the allegations, I would definitely fire him if I were to ever find the allegations were true. While I don't know the full story, I won't judge the guy. If I knew him to be guilty then I wouldn't hire him, of course. But if I did hire him, and any sign that he was interested in little kids was to show itself, then again I would fire him on the spot. I wouldn't want to have sexual predators working for me, if I was a manager or owned a company. But I also believe in 'innocent until proven guilty'.

 

[Jroo wuz heer]

yes

 

[individual11]

Hire a registered sex offender -

Good bye customers and/or profit.

It's a business decision, not a personal one.

 

[redisforever]

...never asks for a raise... ...Do you hire him?

Yes. Just because I won't have to pay more later. I expect some anger.

 

[Reaver3]

after typing a 5 minute rant I figure I would delete it and say this:

MOST child predators strike again, and if children were in the store, it would be too much of a temptation for this guy and a liability for me as the shop owner/employer. I do not believe child sex offenders should be with the general population