No sexy armor in Dragon Age? This picture disagrees with that statement.SUPA FRANKY said:
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Sexy fantasy armor...
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I mean lets try to list some?
A few girls from fighting games. ( Soul Calibur is al lthat comes to mind. I guess Mai SHiranui, but what she's wearing isn't really impractical.)
The Cast of Senran Kagura ( Especially the teacher. Everyone else seems fine besides the massive mamaries)
MMO Races ( I'm not an MMO guy, but I guess WOW, though they have mostly erased such things)
This is from the top of my head, and besides Soul Calibur and WOW, they are mostly ciche). Where are these chainmail bikini warriors in the mainstream?
A few girls from fighting games. ( Soul Calibur is al lthat comes to mind. I guess Mai SHiranui, but what she's wearing isn't really impractical.)
The Cast of Senran Kagura ( Especially the teacher. Everyone else seems fine besides the massive mamaries)
MMO Races ( I'm not an MMO guy, but I guess WOW, though they have mostly erased such things)
This is from the top of my head, and besides Soul Calibur and WOW, they are mostly ciche). Where are these chainmail bikini warriors in the mainstream?
The main problem with 'sexy fantasy armor' is that it more then likely is filed under:
1. Basically a thong with two small snippets of metal.
2. A naturally beautiful character face-wise/personality wise who doesn't need that armor to be sexy.
1, you'll never find a male character wearing (not one that will be taken seriously by fans/the game itself anyway) which is why there was a whole debacle about it in the first place.
2, the games industry is getting more and more clever about - but a majority of the characters who fulfill this are either western female characters or characters from anime/Japanese game market (Sephiroth's/grown up Cloud's 'armor' anyone?)
Since people are asking about 'Bikini Armor' games and claiming they aren't prevalent, I will try to list over the next few hours a few bikini armor games/mmo classes from games.
Note 1 : These are only from games I've only played in the last few weeks and from things that I am more then 90 percent certain of.
Note:
1 means: Only the *female* class has nude/uncovering armor.
2 means: Cannot wear anything else/ if there is an alternate armor, it is still revealing.
3 means: male class is just as 'sexualized' but not as nude.
4 means: male class is just as sexualized and about as nude.
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Dragon's Prophet - Action, Fantasy, MMO:
Female Sorcerer: 1, 2 (alt white armor for lower levels is choice between booty shorts and miniskirt), 3 (depending on character creation)
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Path of Exile - ARPGMMO
No bikinis that I've seen.
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Tera Online:
High Elf Female (non metal wearing classes) : 1,2,3. Both genders can be cash shopped to be more clothed.
High Elf Female (metal classes - IE Lancer, Beserker): 1 (later on), 2, 3 (somewhat, depends on customization)
Castanic Female (all non metal wearing classes): 1 (males only naked from lower chest up, majority of time camera is facing away. Take that as you will), 2, 3 (see 1).
Elins: 1, 2. No male nude equivalent
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Neverwinter:
Female Control Wizard: 1 (boob window for many, many levels. Can be covered by shirt underarmor)
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Overall, at least from my time playing games, most of the sexualization has been a-lot more equal.
League of Legends needs to get their shit together though.
1. Basically a thong with two small snippets of metal.
2. A naturally beautiful character face-wise/personality wise who doesn't need that armor to be sexy.
1, you'll never find a male character wearing (not one that will be taken seriously by fans/the game itself anyway) which is why there was a whole debacle about it in the first place.
2, the games industry is getting more and more clever about - but a majority of the characters who fulfill this are either western female characters or characters from anime/Japanese game market (Sephiroth's/grown up Cloud's 'armor' anyone?)
Since people are asking about 'Bikini Armor' games and claiming they aren't prevalent, I will try to list over the next few hours a few bikini armor games/mmo classes from games.
Note 1 : These are only from games I've only played in the last few weeks and from things that I am more then 90 percent certain of.
Note:
1 means: Only the *female* class has nude/uncovering armor.
2 means: Cannot wear anything else/ if there is an alternate armor, it is still revealing.
3 means: male class is just as 'sexualized' but not as nude.
4 means: male class is just as sexualized and about as nude.
--
Dragon's Prophet - Action, Fantasy, MMO:
Female Sorcerer: 1, 2 (alt white armor for lower levels is choice between booty shorts and miniskirt), 3 (depending on character creation)
--
Path of Exile - ARPGMMO
No bikinis that I've seen.
--
Tera Online:
High Elf Female (non metal wearing classes) : 1,2,3. Both genders can be cash shopped to be more clothed.
High Elf Female (metal classes - IE Lancer, Beserker): 1 (later on), 2, 3 (somewhat, depends on customization)
Castanic Female (all non metal wearing classes): 1 (males only naked from lower chest up, majority of time camera is facing away. Take that as you will), 2, 3 (see 1).
Elins: 1, 2. No male nude equivalent
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Neverwinter:
Female Control Wizard: 1 (boob window for many, many levels. Can be covered by shirt underarmor)
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Overall, at least from my time playing games, most of the sexualization has been a-lot more equal.
League of Legends needs to get their shit together though.
You mean that ONE armor set in a game with like 20? Not to mention The men are lightly armored as well. Where would the Elves get massive Plate Armor? They arem ostly nomads.erttheking said:
Now, if you think it's so prevalent, I want you to list 5-6 sets from the entire series that are mostly their to titillate.
Because for every one, I can name you 10.
You say that you can't think of any sexy female armor. I point out a sexy female armor. You tell me that there's more non-sexy than sexy.SUPA FRANKY said:
Buddy, that's what we call moving the goalposts. That wasn't your original point at all. I don't care how prevalent it is in the series, it shouldn't be there at all. You claimed they weren't. You were wrong. You seem to be dodging that.
Hell naw it doesn't. In fact, that outfit is the sole reason I have yet to watch the series. I don't care how Gurren-Lagann-AWESOME it is, that right there is just stupid.Drummodino said:OT: I don't have a problem with unrealistic armour designs, as long as the fit the setting and actually look good. For example:
This is obviously impractical, but does it look good and fit the setting (Kill la Kill)? Hell yea it does.
And no, I didn't have a problem with Yoko's outfit. Skimpy as it was it was still something people have actually worn.
I don't have a huge problem, because I know in Videogames in general have a huge problem what to get right.
I mean, think about this for example:
Did anyone saw in a videogame a real ninja?
Mark of the Ninja don't count.
And even if you find something, there are not many compare to the other "videogames" ninjas....
So yeah, I get along with the ride. But I don't forget I also the problem.
I mean, think about this for example:
Did anyone saw in a videogame a real ninja?
Mark of the Ninja don't count.
And even if you find something, there are not many compare to the other "videogames" ninjas....
So yeah, I get along with the ride. But I don't forget I also the problem.
Sure but if your going to dress the woman like fantasy themed prostitutes at least do the same to the men and don't pull the "mobility" or "she just so happen to be from an exclusively female fantasy race or one we have nothing to do with any of the men that happens to dress like this" card.
Fantasy doesn't automatically mean everything goes either. You still need consistency within the story.
Fantasy doesn't automatically mean everything goes either. You still need consistency within the story.
This.DementedSheep said:
THIS.
SO MUCH THIS!
Because you'll never find a male character that's taken seriously by the fandom or the game itself most of the time, with 'sexy' armor on, but I had a friend that said I was being 'overly critical' when I give Ivy in Soul Caliber 4 the name 'God boobs'...
Allow me to present a counter-list. Around 75% of the female characters in DOTA 2 and LoL, the latter claiming to be the most played game ever. Rayne from Radiant historia,SUPA FRANKY said:
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120726042342/radianthistoria/images/thumb/f/f3/Raynie.png/300px-Raynie.png
just about every female character in the Final Fantasy games, The Shivering Isles guards from Oblivion.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/silversorrow/zzOB2009-13.jpg
Shadee from Prince of Persia
http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l425/Squall_6888/Videojuegos/Aventura/Prince%20of%20Persia/5-%20El%20Alma%20del%20Guerrero/wallpaper_prince_of_persia_warrior_.jpg
The female warriors in Disgaea
http://images.wikia.com/disgaea/en/images/2/25/Dis2-fighter-female.jpg
The warriors from Valkyrie Profile.
http://images.wikia.com/valkyrieprofile/images/9/90/Fraudir1.jpg
Aribeth from Neverwinter Nights
http://wallpaper.metalship.org/walls/neverwinter-nights-_-aribeth1.jpg
The bikini armor and swimsuits for the female characters in Persona 3
Fallout 3 Female Raider outfit
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101220010654/fallout/images/1/16/Raider_Sadist_Armor.png
Samara's boob window in Mass Effect 2
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AtzttKtL6jM/UXrORjc-WbI/AAAAAAAAAag/c9MBHlnTEPc/s1600/Magazine+3.jpg
Saskia from the Witcher has a bit of clevage showing too, and she's supposed to be a dragon slayer.
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110528230950/witcher/images/f/f7/Tw2_journal_Saskia.png
Nowi from Fire Emblem
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/080/4/a/nowi_by_nishisuzu-d5yu3is.jpg
Just about everything produced by the MMO Tera and Scarlet Blade.
And last but not least, Samus Aran having high heels in the new Smash Bros.
Just beacuse they don't happen in games you don't play, doesn't mean they don't exist.
It's not like the outfit is impractical. Elves are mostly the rougue stealth types.erttheking said:
But fair enough, one sexy armor ( Not really sexy) in a game chocked fulled with equal protection. Just don't act like its an epedemic.
Most of those examples aren't sexy armour at all, or at least the sexy armour is evenly distributed between the genders ( Disgea, LOL,)erttheking said:
How is The Fall Out Armor sexy? How are rocket boots sexy?
I didn't say they don't exist, but don't act like 90% of games have them, because they don't.
Adding on:erttheking said:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChainmailBikini
You have fun now you two.
Don't pull the mobility card, if she really needs to move around quickly she can put on leather armor. I don't care if you're trying to be sneaky, that's no reason to leave your midriff bare.SUPA FRANKY said:
I refer you to the list I have drawn up for you. All I had to do was look at TV Tropes for five minutes.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChainmailBikini
There's a lot of entries there.
And I didn't even look at these ones.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThongOfShielding
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Stripperiffic
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BareYourMidriff
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CleavageWindow
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Fanservice
I like how most of the listed examples are preety short, or also has equal sexual representation of armor.erttheking said:
Really, what I wanted are series where the men are all armored and ALL/MOST of the females have sexy armor. A DLC outfit or one off character doesn't count.
Also, exposed legs and shoulders/ arms don't fall under sexy armor.
Far enough, I was considering taking it out.SUPA FRANKY said:
And you just can't say "Most of these aren't sexy or equally distributed" and act like it brushes away the entire list. How is Rayne not sexy? And I assure you that it is not equally spread in that game. The same can be said for a lot on the list, which I can't address considering that you just threw a blanket argument over it. And it doesn't matter if you don't personally find it sexy, it was still designed to show off the female form at the cost of practicality.
I find that hard to swallow considering that you could only come up with a very short list of stories with female warriors in good armor, a few of them not even related to gaming. If you could give me a list of female characters in good armor, I could be swayed.
And please don't mention stories with either no female characters or female characters rotated to non-combat roles. Those don't count for very obvious reasons. And they don't count if they have breast plates.
No shorter than your list of series that defy the sterotype.SUPA FRANKY said:
And why does it not? It is still pandering. You can't just sweep it under the table.
Oh, so exposing your thighs at the cost of protection doesn't count as sexy armor? Showing off skin for no reason isn't pandering? You'll forgive me if I have a hard time swallowing that.
How does that disprove anything? It is still sexy armor. You keep moving the goalposts. First by saying "there's barely any sexy armor" then "there's more non-sexy armor than sexy armor" then "Thighs and arms being bared don't count" and now "Optional armor doesn't count" you're dismissing a lot of my arguments with broad strokes, and I'm not finding them very convincing.SUPA FRANKY said:
Also, why did you not quote me for this?