Should Death Row Inmates Be Used for Experiments?

Darkguy89

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The idea is excellent but there should be a line drawn somewhere. Rather than just anyone on death row, serial killers, rapist, murderers, paedophiles, sex offenders, Fred Phelps. And dont just make it death row make it prisoner filling those qualifications. There are so many people deserving torture. In Australia we have a guy called von Einem who I personally would love to see be subjected to cruel and unusual punishment. I'm not a sadist I just love to see people get whats coming to them.
 

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evilthecat said:
Darkguy89 said:
I'm not a sadist I just love to see people get whats coming to them.
Most sadists do.
Read about von Einem and the Family Murders about what they did to their victims and then imply that I am a sadist. And read about what von Einem has done while in prison.
 

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Sure, anyone should be able to consent to any kind of experiment as long as they're properly informed, of sound mind, and not being forced into it (which is slightly redundant but still need to be stated.)
 

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Darkguy89 said:
Read about von Einem and the Family Murders about what they did to their victims and then imply that I am a sadist. And read about what von Einem has done while in prison.
You mean the murders he was never actually convicted of?

You shouldn't have asked me to read. I actually do.

If this is the most fitting candidate for state torture you can come up with I don't think you've made your case. He was convicted of one murder, a horrible murder but a murder nonetheless. Why should the state stoop to the same level?

On a cursory reading, it sounds like he should be detained in a secure psychiatric ward rather than a general prison, but really.. this isn't the middle ages, we're a little past public torture in the town square.
 

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Ahh that heady scent of escapist brand iconoclasm, guaranteed to cause headache inducing strength facepalms.
This type of things is straight out of Nazi Germany (go look up Josef Mengele for a quick history lesson)- its barbaric, inhuman and in the end makes us little better then the potential subjects.
We wouldn't be testing on Jews who haven't lifted a finger to anyone.

People on Death Row tend to have gotten there for a reason, hard as that is to believe. (Though admittedly, there is a very large amount of people who shouldn't have been put there in the first place)
 

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For as long as we have the death penalty, why the hell not?

The death penalty is draconian as it is.
 

Jodah

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Nope, not because of some misguided morality that they are still people. My reason is that some of them may be found innocent before being killed. They would then be stuck with the effects of said experimentation. Plus theres the whole lawsuit thing and the idea of cruel and unusual punishment.
 
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Absolutely not! Considering that capital punishment itself is a practice reserved for barbaric nations, experimentation on humans should not be allowed on any group of people that would be inclined to do it. That means inmates, students, the poor, the homeless or anyone really. If science is not guided by ethics it is worth absolutely fuck all. If a scientist feels the need to experiment on somebody, they should experiment on themselves and noone else.
 

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I'm of the opinion that people on death row should, you know, be put to death in a timely fashion. What's the point of the death penalty if it takes 10 years to enact?
 

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No, so what if they are "taking up space"? They are still people, and what if some of them are actually innocent and have been given an injustice by the legal system, what are you gonna say, tough shit? Oops?

I don't care if it's in the name of science, science has been known to be unethical, and this is one of them. If they want to experiment so badly on people then they should experiment on themselves, and call it a day.
 

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I don't really go for the eye-for-an-eye thing; for example, using someone who tortured people, for experiments. Maybe it would make PeTA feel better, though? (not that I care...)

That said, if they agree to it, why the hell not? You committed a crime bad enough for you to be sentenced to death; doing science a favour probably isn't the worst decision you will have made.
 

Ryengu

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I don't know about medical testing, unless there's a reasonable belief that it wouldn't be harmful. It does seem like they should be doing SOMEthing besides taking up space though, doesn't it?