Skryim is outdated

[Kopikatsu]

Its outdated because of bad animations, supposedly bad physics and bad AI (not sure if you are confusing bad animations with AI but whatever)

Well then... this game must be terrible I'll take your word for it.

I'm pretty sure those three descriptors fit most games. Especially the AI part.

Edit: The PC in Skyrim has the same problem that Batman had in Arkham City. His posture is so laughably rigid at all times that it seems like he has a literal stick up his ass.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

The game has literally hundreds of hours of gameplay, and you're here describing a day's worth of play at most.

Yeah.

Sorry but I just can't wholeheartedly take your judgement as full and fair here. Especially not with a game that's supposed to be as massive in size as Skyrim.

That'd be like me bashing GTA4 after playing just the first 6 missions.

Oh my good lord does no one READ on these forums!?

I'm addressing stuff that is part of the game's core. The animations, AI, physics, stuff like that. Stuff that's the same in the introduction as it will be in the end-game. I think those could've been done better.

Of course fucking of course the game is massive, that's why I didn't even comment on missions, world, storyline or anything like that whatsoever, because that would've been bullshit indeed.

Well, I expected it to be a mixture of Oblivion and Fallout 3. From gameplay videos and your descriptions, that is indeed how it plays. I'm still hyped. Thanks for posting your initial impressions.

 

[esin]

From having watched several streams of the 360 version, I can vouch for OP. He's not even that flustered about the complaints he's made and the uninformed are coming out the woodwork crying 'Troll!'

 

[Assassinscreed548]

You know what... call me an patsy but that's all I really wanted. There's only so much that could be done with mods with Oblivion. I'm just after more of what Oblivion was, but prettier.

Pretty much this.

Also, I'm not an ungrateful whiner that demands more than current technology and consoles can produce. The game is huge... they can't have everything perfect... yet. I'll still have loads of fun with it because I'm old school, and that's how we roll. We can actually sit back and still be awed by today's tech and not whine when it doesn't improve DRAMATICALLY in a few scant years, because to us old timers, it always has, and at a truly staggering speed. Shit, I played arcade games with two colors as a kid.This shit is straight out of fucking Star Trek to me.

Besides, it looks wayyyyy better than Oblivion, and that's pretty much all I wanted. A prettier Oblivion. Could it be better? Sure, but I savor each tech morsel as it comes out without spitting it out and demanding better like a spoiled kid at dinner, and the gameplay is really what I'm after anyway. The meat on the bone if you will. And I don't really care about what I consider the grizzle. To me, sure, grizzle is tasty, but not everyone's down with it. I'm not fussed like some folks.

(This is to no one in particular, not even OP, so relax. /rant)

Pretty much what you said, I personally don't give a shit about animation that isn't mind blowing, or with ragdoll physics that aren't ultra realistic. From what I've seen from the game, it looks amazing. It looks great both graphically and is no doubt an enormous improvement to Oblivion, even if the animations aren't quite as large as the other improvements. I do beg of you,OP, please do not deny that the animation quality, dialogues and conversation has improved rather dramatically. To sum up, I don't give a shit if animations aren't up to standard, the game's gonna be freakin' great.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

The game has literally hundreds of hours of gameplay, and you're here describing a day's worth of play at most.

Yeah.

Sorry but I just can't wholeheartedly take your judgement as full and fair here. Especially not with a game that's supposed to be as massive in size as Skyrim.

That'd be like me bashing GTA4 after playing just the first 6 missions.

Oh my good lord does no one READ on these forums!?

I'm addressing stuff that is part of the game's core. The animations, AI, physics, stuff like that. Stuff that's the same in the introduction as it will be in the end-game. I think those could've been done better.

Of course fucking of course the game is massive, that's why I didn't even comment on missions, world, storyline or anything like that whatsoever, because that would've been bullshit indeed.

All the stuff you've complained about is literally prevalent in 90% of video games today. So Skyrim really isn't outdated. It just doesn't use the Euphoria engine...

Calling the game outdated based on AI, and physics is one thing, but if your not going to take into account all of the other new features that show progressions, (dual wielding, the leveling system being not stupidly redundant, the upgraded graphics making NPCs NOT look uncanny valley, the better details, the Radiant A.I./ Radiant Story system) then yo can't really say that you've looked at the "core" of the game because there's a lot that you didn't even comment on, or get to fully experience.

 

[Aaronbxiii]

about the claims of a bad physics engine. remember this isnt earth, just look up at the sky and who knows what kind of gravitational pull 2 moons could have on such a planet.

 

[Aetherlblade]

*snip*

I wanted to just say "Lol" and then walk away but, I wont.

Bluntly stop being a shit stirer, wait the game is out. Because until then opinions like this have no valildity.

If you had read the thread, you could have seen that the game has been released in some areas early.

Or it could be that very few people believe you?

http://www.google.nl/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=nl&safe=off&source=hp&q=skyrim%20released%20early&pbx=1&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&fp=a1083766ec587196&biw=1920&bih=929&pf=p&pdl=500

just check this then.

 

[Piorn]

Considering that everything I want is an Oblivion that improves some aspects, I'm fine with that.

 

[Duffeknol]

The game has literally hundreds of hours of gameplay, and you're here describing a day's worth of play at most.

Yeah.

Sorry but I just can't wholeheartedly take your judgement as full and fair here. Especially not with a game that's supposed to be as massive in size as Skyrim.

That'd be like me bashing GTA4 after playing just the first 6 missions.

Oh my good lord does no one READ on these forums!?

I'm addressing stuff that is part of the game's core. The animations, AI, physics, stuff like that. Stuff that's the same in the introduction as it will be in the end-game. I think those could've been done better.

Of course fucking of course the game is massive, that's why I didn't even comment on missions, world, storyline or anything like that whatsoever, because that would've been bullshit indeed.

All the stuff you've complained about is literally prevalent in 90% of video games today. So Skyrim really isn't outdated. It just doesn't use the Euphoria engine...

Calling the game outdated based on AI, and physics is one thing, but if your not going to take into account all of the other new features that show progressions, (dual wielding, the leveling system being not stupidly redundant, the upgraded graphics making NPCs NOT look uncanny valley, the better details, the Radiant A.I./ Radiant Story system) then yo can't really say that you've looked at the "core" of the game because there's a lot that you didn't even comment on, or get to fully experience.

See? Now that's a valid point.
I'll admit I didn't mention any of the positive changes they made. I did do that a few pages after. Then again this is a complaints thread, it's not a review of the game. For that, I'll have to play a whole lot more than the few hours that I did. I simply played the game, found some things at the game's core (part of its core are the technical aspects) I didn't like at all, and I complained about them. The things that I mentioned are indeed outdated. Calling the entire game that might have been indeed a bit too short-sighted of me.
I'll rephrase; Skyrim has an outdated physics and animations system, which is kind of a bummer for me, especially since all the complaints I have, are the same as they were in Oblivion. I believe Bethesda could've at least tried to work some more with the critique they got last time. The rest of the game still seems like a lot of fun.

 

[RoseBridge]

Well I figured as much, I spent a lot of time, with Oblivion and will probably do the same with Skyrim.

The only thing I cant forgive, wont forgive is the God forsaken UI! WTF Blizz...er Bethesda!

 

[CrazyCapnMorgan]

You didn't play it.

Now THIS I can use with absolute certainty...


Until I play the game personally, I cannot give an informed opinion or critique/validation to the OP.

 

[wyrmslayer1991]

I work at a movie and game rental store and we got our copies in on monday. I took one home for a day and played for about five hours and I must say, if the only thing the OP thinks has changed is the graphics then he either spent his time in the game actually DOING nothing, did not play the game, or accidentally actually put in oblivion.
I don't have time atm to list all of the new stuff in detail but the features to create your own armor and weapons and then improve a favorite's overall quality on top of enchanting is new. Along with leather tanning, cooking, and upgraded alchemy.
Dual wielding spells and weapons is awesome and if you switch to third person you can see right away that the animations have obviously improved. Adding in death blows like impaling them on both your swords and power attacks that finally feel like they're connecting instead of waving your weapon around till stuff in front of you falls over, and you'll notice real quick that combat's been overhauled.
And everyone's seen from the videos that conversations now do take place in real time. with considerably more animations when they're focused on talking to you. What I like is that they almost always aren't focused on you, they could be working their till, tending the bar, or running their forge. It's a teeny bit more immersive when I find myself quickly wrapping up a convo with an old blacksmith because I was able to actually look over and see someone else I wanted to talk to getting away.
Anyways that's just a couple things. I didn't even get into the awesome new menu layout or skills system, but lastly I just want to say that Oblivion came out five years ago, and I think one would actually have to try pretty hard to wait this long and then only beef up the graphics and call it a day. If you were even mildly interested in this game, then proceed to give it a try. I doubt you'll be disappointed. I know I wasn't.

 

[Aetherlblade]

Dude i hope that you are right so much i would sell my mother to make it so :O

 

[Weslebear]

Whilst some improvements like those would be nice, all I've wanted since putting 800hrs into Oblivion is more of the same with a fresh lick of paint, a new land to explore and different quests. And if that's essentially what it is, I still can't wait.

Little extra's like perks and the like are just bonus.

 

[Yopaz]

A game made for the same hardware as Oblivion doesn't have graphics that are far superior to Oblivion? That's surprising.

 

[spartandude]

from what ive heard and seen (my copy will be arriving tommorrow hopefully ) its oblivion with improved level scaling and a new map.... and you know what i call that good

 

[Duffeknol]

- Adding in death blows like impaling them on both your swords and power attacks that finally feel like they're connecting instead of waving your weapon around till stuff in front of you falls over, and you'll notice real quick that combat's been overhauled.
- And everyone's seen from the videos that conversations now do take place in real time.

- The finishing moves didn't feel different than the ones in Fallout 3 for me. The combat is still wave your sword until the thing in front of you turns into a ragdoll. I really didn't get the feeling of weight from the combat at all.
- Convos are indeed real time, but they still feel wrong. They stare at you and say their lines, only thing that's changed is that they sometimes move their arms a bit. Awkward and standstill.

I'll admit they improved the third person protagonist character animations, but everyone already knew that from the first gameplay vid. It's the rest of the characters that are as bad as in Oblivion.

 

[Lacsapix]

Morrowind is outdated too, but its still one of the best games ever.
Outdated =! bad.

 

[IamLEAM1983]

At the end of the day I've waited five years to play Oblivion in Skyrim... y'know?

Mmhm. Which reminds me of how happy I was about Fallout New Vegas. I didn't want a tremendous engine upgrade, I just wanted more Fallout 3 and I got what I wanted. End of story.