Skyrim Child Killing Mod

[Jacob Haggarty]

Not to be nit-picky, if someone wants to massacre children, i can't really stop them (but i can shuffle away slowly and call someone to help). It's the REASONS you people seem to be giving that confuse me. What they boil down to is "ICKLE BABY SAID MEAN NASTY THINGS ABOUT ME".

...Your point?

Damn near EVERYONE is rude to you during the game, from "milk-drinker" to "weak" etc. assuming that you couldnt POSSIBLY beat them hence calling you pathetic. They insult your intelligence, they insult your height at one point i think, they insult your strength.

So why does everyone seem to foam at the mouth when the words come from someone half your size?

AND WHY IS YOUR FIRST THOUGHT TO KILL THEM!? I'll admit, for the most part, they ARE little bastards, and the one who says something about bootlicking was crying out for a smack. That is why you equip your fists or shield or bow, and smack them around the head.

 

[Mau95]

Real kids do that too, and you dont kill them.

 

[Micalas]

Not to be nit-picky, if someone wants to massacre children, i can't really stop them (but i can shuffle away slowly and call someone to help). It's the REASONS you people seem to be giving that confuse me. What they boil down to is "ICKLE BABY SAID MEAN NASTY THINGS ABOUT ME".

...Your point?

Damn near EVERYONE is rude to you during the game, from "milk-drinker" to "weak" etc. assuming that you couldnt POSSIBLY beat them hence calling you pathetic. They insult your intelligence, they insult your height at one point i think, they insult your strength.

And I can kill them.

So why does everyone seem to foam at the mouth when the words come from someone half your size?

AND WHY IS YOUR FIRST THOUGHT TO KILL THEM!? I'll admit, for the most part, they ARE little bastards, and the one who says something about bootlicking was crying out for a smack. That is why you equip your fists or shield or bow, and smack them around the head.

The same reason your first thought is to put in the weapon cheat and spray everyone in a Grand Theft Auto game. It's a fantasy RPG full of non-real creatures and even more non-real people. Real world morality is irrelevant when you're playing a video game.

Real kids do that too, and you dont kill them.

Real life isn't a video game that revolves around killing shit.





WHY THE FUCK CAN NO ONE TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PIXELS AND REAL LIFE? WE'VE BEEN MURDERING FAKE PEOPLE SINCE THE CREATION OF VIDEO GAMES. WE'VE BEEN ENDING FAKE LIVES. FAKE CHILDREN FAKE DYING IS JUST AS FAKE AND IRRELVENT AS ALL THOSE FAKE DEAD ADULTS.

Jesus fucking Christ, people.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

Real kids do that too, and you dont kill them.

I also don't fight dragons or assassinate mages in real life.

 

[Matt Dellar]

I have no desire to kill children in Skyrim.

I just don't like the fact that I can't.

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I installed this mod in New Vegas as well and ended up never killing a single child. Something tells me I won't be killing any kids in Skyrim either. I installed the mod anyway. Maybe I want to eliminate the Dark Brotherhood or something, you know, to rid the world of all those assassins (who, by the way, send you out to kill people who may or may not have done anything wrong). Does it even make sense to kill them all except the little vampire girl, who is arguably the most dangerous?

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

You know, after some thought I'm wondering at these 'immersion' people. It is immersive to kill kids? I don't have a problem running around towns slaughtering everyone, but I'm not particuarly sure why it's immersive to kill NPCs for little reason. It just sounds like people acting crazy as some do when playing characters, not acting realistically or anything.

Little Lamplight has made me hate kids in all Bethesda games. So I want to kill them because of irrational hatred.

 

[samaugsch]

Real life isn't a video game that revolves around killing shit.

WHY THE FUCK CAN NO ONE TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PIXELS AND REAL LIFE? WE'VE BEEN MURDERING FAKE PEOPLE SINCE THE CREATION OF VIDEO GAMES. WE'VE BEEN ENDING FAKE LIVES. FAKE CHILDREN FAKE DYING IS JUST AS FAKE AND IRRELVENT AS ALL THOSE FAKE DEAD ADULTS.

Jesus fucking Christ, people.

I don't get it, either. What I think would've been nice is if in Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas, they let you kill kids, but it makes your karma take a bigger dive than if you killed adults since people tend to react more negatively to those that murder defenseless children than those that murder adults. It definitely would've made more sense than making kids fucking indestructible (especially when the kids run away anyway as if they were in any actual danger >_>). Plus, it adds to the roleplaying experience.

 

[Svenparty]

Just ignore them. I'm level 10 in the game and have been so busy butterfly catching and ingredient fetching that I haven't interacting with many of the kids or even seen any dragons past the tutorial. Though I'm not against this mod because it breaks the game when you can't fling an axe through a kids face and watch them bleed.

 

[Tipatap]

I think what most people are missing is that the majority of us do not want to kill kids just for the sake of it. The reasons most of us, myself included, think that this mod is not a bad thing is because of the aforementioned dragon problems, and the way that it rips you from the experience.

 

[GraveeKing]

I think to be honest, if Bethesda DIDN'T want someone to mod it in for them (since putting it in themselves would probably give them a bad reputation), the kids are purposefully annoying and just begging for a ball of fire or axe to the face.

I'd say they probably had it as a feature originally (not that they'd ever openly admit it publicly), but took it out when people started to whine that killing pixels on a screen makes you a terrible person and will set off psychopaths everywhere on a killing spree on kids everywhere.


The fact of the matter is - people who install this mod JUST to kill kids in brutal nasty ways, yes OK, maybe a few problems, Bethesda shouldn't really be blamed for that. But more importantly - it's the minority, the vast majority just want to kill them because they're BLOODY BRATS just another interactive NPC and they want further immersion.

 

[thawk]

Here's the thing some people obviously have to realise - to a vast majority of gamers real life and behavior in games have nothing to do with each other.

I personally use games as a break from RL, a place to unwind and do whatever jumps to my mind. One of the things I love most is to take the game concept and push it as far as it goes. In a game like Skyrim, an open-ended RPG that gives you lots of freedom, it would be to exercise the freedom to do whatever I can think of. My choices in the game are of an exploratory nature and have nothing in common with the choices I would make in RL.

So, in Skyrim I run into some child NPCs. They also happen to be huge dicks. This char I'm playing has so far shown little affection for people who cross him so guess what I try to do. The game says I can't do it. A game that, by its concept, should allow that. The way I saw it was like if I was playing a driving game and it didn't allow me to turn the wheel fully to one side or if in a shooter I wasn't allowed to aim in a certain direction. It made no sense. So, yes, I installed the mod and "killed" a bunch of ones and zeros. I also have 2 other characters where the kids are all alive and happily running around insulting people.

I should also mention that I'm a person who has never in his life even managed to gather enough malicious intent or anger to properly punch even people who deserved it and that I like kids and am very cautious as to what I do and say around them and dislike people who don't.

Now shut up and let me play the game however the fuck I want.

 

[Jabberwock xeno]

I always found it odd in Fallout 3 that you would wipe out a town, but those little pricks still hung around. I remember clearing Dave's town out but the 2 kids there still lived. I REALLY wanted to blast the face off that little ***** in Little Lamplight.

Bethesda should at least make them vanish when all adult NPCs die off. You kill them town, leave and come back a few hours later and they are gone.

I feel this is the main issue with it.

If I want to make a town empty, then then kids need to go too.

Its against the law in the uk and the usa too, to allow the player to personaly kill a child themselves, sure with fallout 1 they patched it to remove children to abide by the law, and any game that does allow you to kill children is probabley too obscure for your average joe to ever hear about.
it aint bethesda its the law

There is no such law, to my knowladge.

 

[The Lugz]

when will developers learn.. either:
1, don't have children in a game or
2, make killing them the worst thing you could possibly do
( - 100000 rep to everyone in the game, jail-time, massive fines, people spit on you, random parents attack you when your weak ect. )

then the likely hood of someone making a mod like this is allot smaller.

i prefer option 1. it's easier all told.

 

[Odbarc]

The next two mods to draw controversy is the nude mod and the rape/sex mod.

Giggity.

 

[Darkmantle]

I think this is pointless. many people in this thread are saying they will install the mod but won't kill children anyway. well how did you find out th children can;t be killed? di you read it somewhere? and if so, it's your fault for breaking your own immersion by looking up things about the game :/

and the same mods have been made for all kinds of other games, bethesda games in particular, why is this one getting so much heat?

 

[distortedreality]

well how did you find out th children can;t be killed? di you read it somewhere? and if so, it's your fault for breaking your own immersion by looking up things about the game :/

They probably saw a dragon roast a child in fire, while the child was playing tag with a wolf.

Protip - the child won.

Anyone with a brain noticed that children were invulnerable pretty bloody quickly. Not everyone who noticed is a child killing maniac you know.

 

[Darkmantle]

well how did you find out th children can;t be killed? di you read it somewhere? and if so, it's your fault for breaking your own immersion by looking up things about the game :/

They probably saw a dragon roast a child in fire, while the child was playing tag with a wolf.

Protip - the child won.

Anyone with a brain noticed that children were invulnerable pretty bloody quickly. Not everyone who noticed is a child killing maniac you know.

I never said they were, rather defensive are we?

I said complaining about this mod was a waste of time. I think making this mod is a waste of time, but to each their own.

 

[distortedreality]

I said complaining about this mod was a waste of time. I think making this mod is a waste of time, but to each their own.

I agree with that.

But the way you went about it wasn't exactly clear.

Next time, maybe just state your position instead of blaming the players for the problem.

edit - actually, I agree with the complaining being a waste of time, not the making of the mod.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Do some reading on subconscious desires, Freud may have been a quack but he was onto quite a few things. It's basically the same reason people want animated child pornography banned as much as the real stuff. It's what it says about the user.
Now, granted that doesn't fit for everyone, but it's the general gist.

By that logic, every gamer is a closet murderer waiting to strike.

 

[robert01]

Wow why does this thread have like 400 posts
Every 3d game that has children has always made them un-killable. And then the modding community makes them killable. Imagine the complete shit storm it was cause the rating boards if you could kill children? I put it beside going out and being able to rape women in games. And we all know what kinda shit those games causes over here in the West.