its all about where you look, certain people explain why they like or dislike it.purifico said:
You're acting just as bad as the "OMGITSAWESOMECAUSEITSBETHESDA!!!111one" people by immediately dismissing Skyrim as a "buggy repetitive brown game"
Skyrim... what do people see in it that I don't?
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You're acting just as bad as the "OMGITSAWESOMECAUSEITSBETHESDA!!!111one" people by immediately dismissing Skyrim as a "buggy repetitive brown game"
They are? I don't remember them being this bad...Mekado said:
I mean it's fine but they can't seem to remember what accent and emotion they are doing through the whole conversation, maybe it's just the way the sounds were put together.
OT: People like the lush open fantasy RPG world they get to explore, because games like this really don't come around often.
But ya everything else is either mediocre or poor.
Ah, this coming from someone who accused another of creating THREE separate accounts to state their views (read: childish and immature). I'm not entitled to an opinion if I only have very few posts and my opinions match that of others? Right internet tough guy, I'll try to remember that while you gloat over your 1000+ votes. It's probably all that keeps you going. Good day.Mekado said:
I finally finished the main storyline of Skyrim and after "beating" the game, I kind of have to agree with a lot of the posts. The story just wasn't there. It seemed like every story was half-done and rushed. For the Companions and the Winterhold Mage College, there are only about 3 or 4 missions and then you're in control of the thing (yet you still have to ask for missions from your subordinates... go figure that out...). Morrowind and Oblivion did it better by at least having you earn ranks and work your way up to Guild Master / Arch-Mage. The Unification of Skyrim campaign (which seemed like it was going to be a lot of fun) ended up being a disappointing flop at the end. It seemed like Bethesda was working really hard on it at first but then at the end, they didn't want to be bothered with creating a real in-depth war experience, so after the first few missions they ended up just saying, "Okay, we're done making this fun, so just go take a couple of forts, then storm the capitol city and you're done."
But there are good aspects to Skyrim too. Despite the game being repetitive, it's still fun. Maybe it's just because I have a minor loyalty to the brand, but I still put in hours even though I've done just about everything I've wanted to do with my first character. I don't think Skyrim is as good as Oblivion and Fallout 3, but it's making advances and hopefully (for me at least) they'll go back to a more RPG-like formula for the game instead of trying to make it more like an action game. I actually liked picking those major skills (and for Morrowind, the 5 major and 5 minor skills). It made me focus on what I wanted to do, yet I could still upgrade other skills if I wanted. Forcing the perks and keeping it open-ended was just too much for me... I like open-endedness, but too much is just ... well... too much.
But there are good aspects to Skyrim too. Despite the game being repetitive, it's still fun. Maybe it's just because I have a minor loyalty to the brand, but I still put in hours even though I've done just about everything I've wanted to do with my first character. I don't think Skyrim is as good as Oblivion and Fallout 3, but it's making advances and hopefully (for me at least) they'll go back to a more RPG-like formula for the game instead of trying to make it more like an action game. I actually liked picking those major skills (and for Morrowind, the 5 major and 5 minor skills). It made me focus on what I wanted to do, yet I could still upgrade other skills if I wanted. Forcing the perks and keeping it open-ended was just too much for me... I like open-endedness, but too much is just ... well... too much.
Actually I thought I explained it pretty well why I think that Bethesda headquaters should be nuked from orbit. But I'll repeat it again just because I have nothing better to do right now. Their game are:The_Blue_Rider said:
1. Buggy
2. Brown (because the world is always and only brown, right?)
3. Repetetive
Ok, I'll admit I'm being just a wee-bit biased here. Even though all I've said is true, the bottom line is I just don't like their games. Of course not liking the game is not enough to wish to nuke something from orbit (for example I don't like CoD or any other shooter for that matter but I never wanted to hurt studios that made them), so why do I rage so much about it? Well, it's the fanboys. No matter how much you love fallout 3 or elder's scroll they are not the best games EVA and Bethesda is not the Messiah of game industry. They make alright games (that are just not my cup of tea) that somehow end up getting 10/10 even though they have enough flaws to fill a reservoir previously used to store tears of victims of nazi work camps. Come to think of it maybe I should really really work towards nuking Bethesda fanboys instead.
Ok, I'm off organizing a Bethesdacon and buying a nuke. Tata.
Well thats pretty reasonable if the games just arent your thing, but that doesnt mean you're correct in writing them off as buggy, brown and repetive. Buggy ill give you that, although i suspect that the only reason the games have a repution of being full of game breaking bugs is because of a very loud minority.purifico said:
Brown though? Have you ever played an elder scrolls game? the games are incredibly colourful, especially Oblivion where i thought it was colourful to the point of actually hurting my eyes at times. The games may be repetitive at times but really which game isnt? And due to their large open world its only repetitive if thats how you play it.
Its fine if you have an issue with the fans or the games themselves but try not to make uninformed comments
That's basically what my roommate and I said about the subject. It's like goblin warlords in Oblivion. When everything else is no longer a threat, that small lanky goblin warlord comes at you and ends you in a single hit.
They should give up on the scaling crap. Make some of the dragons stupid tough (by type being the easiest way) and leave the bandits as bandits should be: Adventurer chum.
Sometimes I find it weird that most people who are on the internet and talking about Skyrim, are the ones that don't like it and criticize it. I mean, I love it and everyone I know loves it.
Then I remember. Anyone who likes Skyrim, will be far too busy logging their nth number of hundreds of hours on it to go on the internet lol. Or go to class. Or shower. Or eat regularly. Or move at all from the spot in front of the tv....
Then I remember. Anyone who likes Skyrim, will be far too busy logging their nth number of hundreds of hours on it to go on the internet lol. Or go to class. Or shower. Or eat regularly. Or move at all from the spot in front of the tv....
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People like games, get over yourself.
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I have no idea...but i have been asking myself the same question when everyone was loving Oblivion and i just couldn't stand it...but i love skyrim which actually came as bit of a surprise to me
Not every game has to be TF2 or Borderlands. A game can have Fantasy/Sci-fi etc etc groundings but have realistic graphics, the two are not mutually exclusive.BiH-Kira said:
Ironically all the things you dislike I dont even notice, so lets go through them.trillykins said:
-I havent even started the main quest and 40 hours in now.
-I find the landscapes amazing, and if you say "Theres only snow" please go explore some more as youve missed half the map.
-No characters? Doesnt bother me, they are voiced well but arent animated and I really dont notice it that much.
-Easy combat? Try a different style then. In Oblivion you can get 100% Cheameleon armor and have permanent invisibility. Its basically like cheating. That doesnt make the game bad for having a overpowered option, since if magic actually did exist, al lyou would do is use telekinesis to shoot needles into peoples eyes and win everything.
-Bugs? havent encountered a single bug.
This is just the thing, so many people complain abut all these things, but the majority of people who love it like myself...we dont care. All the things people complain about, we dont notice, the arent what we look for. Personally for about 10 hours..I didnt see a single NPC after I left the intro area, I was exploring, climbing mountains and hunting down wildlife.
Bethesda games have been always very world focused rather than character/story focused. The NPCs simply exist to connect the game together. Though on reflection I can remember a bunch of extremely well characterised NPCs. The insane jester in the Dark Brotherhood, some of the leaders and some in the companions. Theres little gems of NPCs littered throughout the game, but if you expect everyone to have full backstories and personalities your in the wrong game.
Morrowind's varying and unusual landscape is canon. Vvardenfell is always referred to as "that one weird mushroom province".LordRoyal said:
Oblivion is deliberately colorful, since Cyrodiil was known as the "green, forested province".
Skyrim is made up of tall, jagged mountains and nearly impassable terrain.
I get it, you want color. There are mods for that. But if you want a real explanation, here's one: IMMERSION.
I want to FEEL like I'm actually blinded by the snow as I stagger my way through a dragon fight. I want to FEEL like that fireball I just casted at the mage is a stunning jerk back to the fantasy of the game. I want to FEEL like I'm traipsing through crypts and ancient ruins.
But if you want to play it differently where everything is fantasy and glowy, fine. Skyrim isn't the game for you.
New Vegas is one of the most entertaining games ever. Even while having Skyrim I still put a fair amount of hours into that beautiful game.kenu12345 said:off topic but how could u handle new vegas that was boring but i still played and beat it for some reasontrillykins said:and got all the add ons lol
Yeah, but that is a completely outdated and terrible system. The thing Bethesda emphasized with this, that being your character develops to your play style is the thing that other RPG's need to work on.trillykins said:
The old RPG format that Fallout and Oblivion had is very broken to casual players. This new system is great for everyone.
You level up what you want your character to be, and the casual player gets to decide as he plays along in the game.