Skyrim will suck for you...
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Well, I -hope- none of these things happen, and they wouldn't -ruin- the game for me, but the following would annoy the shit out of me:
-Dragons popping up as often as Oblivion Gates.
-Level scaling as terrible as Oblivion.
-General Bethesda glitchiness.
-The Adoring Fan. Fuck him.
-A general lack of ways to customize my character and make him unique. With attributes gone, I'm a bit.. wary.
-Dragons popping up as often as Oblivion Gates.
-Level scaling as terrible as Oblivion.
-General Bethesda glitchiness.
-The Adoring Fan. Fuck him.
-A general lack of ways to customize my character and make him unique. With attributes gone, I'm a bit.. wary.
This is Bethesda's flagship series, they'd never let it be as buggy as Rage was. Though I'm sure there will be some minor issues at first.
I just want the setting to be interesting enough for me to care and want to explore. So far it seems cooler in more ways than one than Oblivion was.
I just want the setting to be interesting enough for me to care and want to explore. So far it seems cooler in more ways than one than Oblivion was.
I'm so psyched I can quite easily filter out the bad and focus on the good, and I expect there to be very little bad.
im hoping that it won't be too generic, When i first saw the trailer, i couldn't help but think to myself "i've seen all this before", but im sure it'll be fine. Also i hope they don't go too heavy on the escort quests, I mean, if im gonna cheat and max out my speed, I can't be expected to wait for 20mins for them to catch their slow asses up to me
I'm highly tolerant to bugs and don't really care about the graphical fidelity as long as it looks good.
For example, I've played Fallout NV for roughly 300 hours.
In which I've endured CTDs roughly every 4th time I enter a new area.
I've had literally hundreds of CTDs, in other words.
So many that I've grown used to them.
I also now quicksave before every single door.
For example, I've played Fallout NV for roughly 300 hours.
In which I've endured CTDs roughly every 4th time I enter a new area.
I've had literally hundreds of CTDs, in other words.
So many that I've grown used to them.
I also now quicksave before every single door.
I didn't really like the leveled weapons from Oblivion. It sucked knowing that if I wanted the best version of Shadowrend (best sword in the game) I would have to wait to do the quest involving it until I was level 30.
I hope that doesn't make a return.
That's really the only thing that really bugged me about Oblivion.
I hope that doesn't make a return.
That's really the only thing that really bugged me about Oblivion.
@OP: The only dealbreaker for me, is if it became a linear hack n slash TPS/FPS with cookie cutter character selections and QTE dragon fights. The last one I could let slide... but it would be bitter.
However, they seemed to address that problem and then some, and depending on how they implement enchanting as a skill (hoping it's similar to Morrowind, but less cumbersome) I might get to play as that Arcane Warrior I always wanted.
With that said, Dragons are still scripted to the radiant story system and if the words of the devs are to be taken 100% it might be down to raw (real) luck on the player to whether you see them daily or hourly.
(Though I doubt it... it would be nice if dragons attacked (or at least left a mark) while you weren't around. It would give a tremendous sense of life (and death) to the world)
That will only affect non-essential mini-quest (radiant quest?) npcs if at all. The plot essential ones will probably be unkillable like in oblivion.
It's a welcome change... I recently started up Oblivion (and Morrowind) again and had to reset multiple times before I found the right starting build. I knew what I wanted, but the class system, even the custom classes, are really restrictive and you don't realise you made a mistake until an hour or 2 after starting.
That said, if it's something small, I can alter in the games command console, but Console gamers are screwed on this. On a side note, I think devs should add some form of debug feature to consoles. Bring back cheats in games damn you.
Though I like that system... magic (in particular, projectile magic) wasn't very immersive/fun in Oblivion. I either played as Warrior or Thief variation because being a mage was somewhat dull. But that's my own opinion on that so take it for what it's worth.Duskflamer said:
However, they seemed to address that problem and then some, and depending on how they implement enchanting as a skill (hoping it's similar to Morrowind, but less cumbersome) I might get to play as that Arcane Warrior I always wanted.
ZeroMachine said:
Yeah pretty much what Woodsey said. In an written interview in this months PCgamer (I believe) Todd mentions that Dragon appearances are both level capped and quest capped (you won't see one until a certain point in the main quest). Much like oblivions gates, this allows for players to choose to play a game without regular dragon raids though unlike oblivion, I don't thin dragons die out when you complete the main quest. Not sure how they balance the rate of encounters once you initiate them, but todd said he wanted them to change the pace of the game flow but not overdo it and frustrate the player.Woodsey said:
With that said, Dragons are still scripted to the radiant story system and if the words of the devs are to be taken 100% it might be down to raw (real) luck on the player to whether you see them daily or hourly.
the spud said:
Actually it might since we don't know how the game treats dragon attacks other then they do attack. Do all the villagers run to safety? Do they run around waving their arms like headless chickens? What kind of damage can Dragons cause?Woodsey said:
(Though I doubt it... it would be nice if dragons attacked (or at least left a mark) while you weren't around. It would give a tremendous sense of life (and death) to the world)
That will only affect non-essential mini-quest (radiant quest?) npcs if at all. The plot essential ones will probably be unkillable like in oblivion.
babinro said:
I should also add that they have some form of booster system for the 3 major pillars of play (Magic, Stealth, Combat). You activate some form of alter that gives all skills in it's corresponding pillar an skill gain boost for faster leveling, and you can switch them as often as you like as long as you are near one of these alters.Woodsey said:
It's a welcome change... I recently started up Oblivion (and Morrowind) again and had to reset multiple times before I found the right starting build. I knew what I wanted, but the class system, even the custom classes, are really restrictive and you don't realise you made a mistake until an hour or 2 after starting.
That said, if it's something small, I can alter in the games command console, but Console gamers are screwed on this. On a side note, I think devs should add some form of debug feature to consoles. Bring back cheats in games damn you.
This is exactly how I feel and is exactly the reason I'm not going to be too disappointed if they fail. They already somewhat ruined my expectations with Oblivion (which was a great game in many ways, but not in the one specific way that I loved Morrowind).Sjakie said:
I would be fine with technical problems a la Rage though. That basically just means waiting a little while longer and I am absolutely okay with that compared to actual problems with the game itself.
My impression from the interviews and such I've seen is that they're trying to make playing a mage a lot more viable and a lot less boring.Sjakie said:
Also, have we actually heard anything about the fast travel system in the game? I've been holding out hope, against all odds, that they might do a Morrowind-style system again rather than the stupid easymode meta fast-travel in Oblivion that meant you almost never actually walked anywhere. That was one of the things I loved most about Morrowind - you felt like you earned fast travel both with player skill (learning the overlapping networks) and in-game achivement (spellcasting and the indices). The fact that outer reaches didn't have fast travel meant that they felt isolated, but it didn't feel cheap and artificial that there wasn't fast travel out there since it was totally justified by the nature of the in-world travel systems.
You needed a map to navigate the buildings and dungeons? I honestly didn't even know there was a map for indoors. Were dungeons/buildings really all that complex in either of those games?AlexiVolkov said:
Sir you are in luck. Pretty much all previews I have read have the author expressing his/her love for the magic system. I was going to go with the Nord warrior just to fit with the default stuff on my first playthrough but the magic system looks too awesome for me to wait.Jaime_Wolf said:
Also, the travel system is a carriage system that costs money and will bring you to major destinations. No more teleporting to any place you want for free.
That was never the problem in Oblivion's class system. It wasn't that you were stuck using a few skills and the others left dormant. In that respect it was a fine system.Woodsey said:
It's that the system involved a series of punishments for daring to use your primary skills regularly.
Sjakie said:
I'm worried that every major fight will be some scripted shitfest. I still seem to be one of the few that remembers the ending of Oblivion. And I don't consider the dragons to be "Major fights". In gameplay that's been shown they seem to be beefy but the best way to beat them seems to be to either use the magical dragon words or run them into other mobs of enemies and clean up whatever's left.
I wasn't talking about that part of the class system; although asking you to define yourself 20 minutes into the game - even if its been implemented properly - is still somewhat of an issue when you've got anywhere from tens to hundreds of hours to go.DracoSuave said:
Yes, its an advancement of that system.TheMigrantSoldier said: