Me too, it's an underappreciated movie.Malpraxis said:By the way, The Rock touched me :'(
Me too, it's an underappreciated movie.Malpraxis said:By the way, The Rock touched me :'(
He's clearly not touching her in that photo. Hoverhanding it, yes.djl3485 said:Al Franken is now accused, with the accuser providing photographic evidence.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/woman-accuses-al-franken-of-kissing-groping-her-without-consent/ar-BBF2Snk
From what I saw, most the writers walked until management gets its collective head out of their ass.Asuka Langley said:If we're talking sexual abuse, can we bring up the sexual misconduct recently brought up from IGN's offices? Apparently HR and Higher Management dismissed a woman who came to them last year with complaints about one of their now ex-writers sexually harassing them and they all dismissed it telling her to pick better friends?
Year of the Witch Hunt? I dont even think this has been as bad as episode in very recent memory. GG for one. Charlotteville, a few months ago. Unfortunately, by the time anything gets to a court, its been months and the public has already decided.LostGryphon said:2017: Year of the Witch Hunt.
If they did the stuff? Fuck 'em.
If they didn't? Fuck the person who lied.
You know the reason why 'listen and believe' is a thing? It's becuase the police done fucked up. For a long time. We are getting people that are charged and put in prison from incidents decades ago becuase the police didnt do their job.LostGryphon said:But, hey. "Listen and believe," right?
You say "If they did the stuff? Fuck 'em" as if you care about actually punishing them, but uh, you have to actually punish them to punish them. But no one was doing anything to do that. Now that people actually are pushing to get them punished, you seem bothered by it.LostGryphon said:2017: Year of the Witch Hunt.
If they did the stuff? Fuck 'em.
If they didn't? Fuck the person who lied.
Mainly, people need to lay off the pitchfork and torch routine. "Innocent until proven guilty" is a thing for a very good reason.
But, hey. "Listen and believe," right?
I swear, it's like people have never been accused of something they haven't done before.
He's clearly not touching her in that photo. Hoverhanding it, yes.djl3485 said:Al Franken is now accused, with the accuser providing photographic evidence.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/woman-accuses-al-franken-of-kissing-groping-her-without-consent/ar-BBF2Snk
Inappropriate, sure. But groping? Yeah, no.
I really wish people would stop calling this a witch hunt. There weren't any actual witches in Salem (despite what the movies and tv shows will tell you) but there is rampant problem of men in Hollywood having sexually inaspropriate behaviour that has been going unpunished.LostGryphon said:2017: Year of the Witch Hunt.
If they did the stuff? Fuck 'em.
If they didn't? Fuck the person who lied.
Mainly, people need to lay off the pitchfork and torch routine. "Innocent until proven guilty" is a thing for a very good reason.
But, hey. "Listen and believe," right?
I swear, it's like people have never been accused of something they haven't done before.
He's clearly not touching her in that photo. Hoverhanding it, yes.djl3485 said:Al Franken is now accused, with the accuser providing photographic evidence.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/woman-accuses-al-franken-of-kissing-groping-her-without-consent/ar-BBF2Snk
Inappropriate, sure. But groping? Yeah, no.
You do realize that most of the people that have these allegations coming out against them are at least 40-45? We're talking baby boomers and gen x that are involved in this nonsense. WTF are you going on about?Jamcie Kerbizz said:It's all part of growing up.
Amazing that large part of recent 'western' generation skipped the part, in which adults learn, that moral relativism is bad and principles are good but they are two edged sword. If you have them it's good for you, because you know what to do and others know what to expect from you. If you only pretend that you have them, others will eventually use that as a rope to hang you with.
Stay classy pal.Finis Rerum said:Life is like a box of chocolates; it is destroyed remarkably fast by an emotional woman.
Slightly late responsealtnameJag said:From what I saw, most the writers walked until management gets its collective head out of their ass.Asuka Langley said:If we're talking sexual abuse, can we bring up the sexual misconduct recently brought up from IGN's offices? Apparently HR and Higher Management dismissed a woman who came to them last year with complaints about one of their now ex-writers sexually harassing them and they all dismissed it telling her to pick better friends?
And good on them.
Dunno. Nobody trustworthy gathers stats on that.Asuka Langley said:But I saw they pieced together an apology on Twitter - talking about the staff not the actual management - to the actual woman and they seemed quick to say "Oh we didn't go to PR for this" rather than saying something in the tweet that looked sincere and not a cover up for y'know running to pr
Also - not sure if this is a touchy term here that'll get me banned but hey ho - aren't a majority of the people getting outed in the video game industry for being sex offenders and such the ones who claimed gamers are all misogynists and see women as objects during gamergate?
TBF GG is still big on twitter if you know where to look, Zoey Quinn monestizing on it - very badly with crappy sales - with her "survivor story" biography, though I did find the list if you want to take a pander and laugh at the pit of self-destruction that isaltnameJag said:Dunno. Nobody trustworthy gathers stats on that.Asuka Langley said:But I saw they pieced together an apology on Twitter - talking about the staff not the actual management - to the actual woman and they seemed quick to say "Oh we didn't go to PR for this" rather than saying something in the tweet that looked sincere and not a cover up for y'know running to pr
Also - not sure if this is a touchy term here that'll get me banned but hey ho - aren't a majority of the people getting outed in the video game industry for being sex offenders and such the ones who claimed gamers are all misogynists and see women as objects during gamergate?
Something that might be skewing perceptions is that the big folks in GG were already out as sexual harassers or the like. Like, what are you gonna reveal, that PressFart is a creepy stalker?
You're talking to someone who didn't understand what the big deal Zoe Quinn was supposed to be three years ago, let alone why people are still obsessed with her now.Asuka Langley said:TBF GG is still big on twitter if you know where to look, Zoey Quinn monestizing on it - very badly with crappy sales - with her "survivor story" biography, though I did find the list if you want to take a pander and laugh at the pit of self-destruction that is.altnameJag said:Dunno. Nobody trustworthy gathers stats on that.Also - not sure if this is a touchy term here that'll get me banned but hey ho - aren't a majority of the people getting outed in the video game industry for being sex offenders and such the ones who claimed gamers are all misogynists and see women as objects during gamergate?
Something that might be skewing perceptions is that the big folks in GG were already out as sexual harassers or the like. Like, what are you gonna reveal, that PressFart is a creepy stalker?
Normally I'd pull up the not an argument picture to point out, but yeah it wasn't an argument against Jim Sterling; just pointing out how far people are going nowadays to try and tank people completely. I don't exactly care for where your torpedo is going as long as it's not near my silo; the point of that bit was again to show how desperate people seem to be getting to get rid of people in the industry they don't particularly likealtnameJag said:You're talking to someone who didn't understand what the big deal Zoe Quinn was supposed to be three years ago, let alone why people are still obsessed with her now.Asuka Langley said:TBF GG is still big on twitter if you know where to look, Zoey Quinn monestizing on it - very badly with crappy sales - with her "survivor story" biography, though I did find the list if you want to take a pander and laugh at the pit of self-destruction that is.altnameJag said:Dunno. Nobody trustworthy gathers stats on that.Also - not sure if this is a touchy term here that'll get me banned but hey ho - aren't a majority of the people getting outed in the video game industry for being sex offenders and such the ones who claimed gamers are all misogynists and see women as objects during gamergate?
Something that might be skewing perceptions is that the big folks in GG were already out as sexual harassers or the like. Like, what are you gonna reveal, that PressFart is a creepy stalker?
So...?
Far as Sterling's Destructoid bit: you know he's actually owned up to and apologized for that shit, right? Like, years ago, publicly. Easiest way for a person to completely torpedo any amount of goodwill I have towards them and their arguments is to bring up hugely misrepresentative things years after the fact without context.
(And anything is still big on Twitter "if you know where to look". Flat Earther's are still big on Twitter "if you know where to look". Only GG related stuff I bother with is watching people like Cheong dunk on himself occasionally.)
https://jezebel.com/matt-lauer-had-a-button-under-his-desk-to-lock-his-door-1820853895A few hours after news broke of Matt Lauer?s unceremonious firing from NBC News, Variety published its investigation into Lauer?s alleged sexual misconduct. The allegations, all of which were provided to Variety anonymously, are truly awful. The worst detail by far is this: according to two of the women accusing Lauer of sexual assault, he had a button under his desk that locked the door from the inside, allowing him the ?privacy? to ?welcome female employees and initiate inappropriate contact while knowing nobody could walk in on him.?
I'd rather stay true.Agent_Z said:Stay classy pal.Finis Rerum said:Life is like a box of chocolates; it is destroyed remarkably fast by an emotional woman.