So, I finally uninstalled LoL from my computer.

[VladG]

Good. Considering how you blame your teammates for your poor performance all I can say is that we're all better off.

I won't mention the irony.


I think the whole "worst community evaar" thing is a bit blown out of proportion. Yes, you can get some incredible assholes in that game but... It's the internet, where don't you get them?

It's the usual vocal minority thing: You always hear about the dozens of assholes, but you don't hear about the thousands of decent players.

At the level I play, most games (I'd say 80-90%) are very enjoyable. There are occasionally games that get ruined by some asshat, but those are certainly in the minority.

As for the Tribunal being broken... That's just crap. It's just toxic players venting their frustration without understanding how the system works. Again, a vocal minority.

So far, in some 2 years of being part of the LoL "community" I've yet to see someone banned for no reason by the Tribunal. Every. Single. Time. the person claiming he was banned for no reason was, in some way, ruining the game for others in a deliberate manner. And that's exactly what the Tribunal is supposed to stop.

 

[blazearmoru]

Fidchell Attano : Why did you get a warning? WTF? :|

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

What incentive? Unless it is a MMO or a Valve game you don't have any. If I go onto CoD 4 and I act like a racist biggot and hack on a server the worst that happens is I get banned and move on to another server. Mobas don't have a higher incidence of dickery than anything else just the people seem more extreme as I've never been told before that I should go get cancer for "taking" a carry's kill as the other carry.

You missed the point. I said little of MOBAs, however, I was stating that F2P games have a higher dickhead count than ones you actually pay for. MOBAs have a more extreme variant of dickhead, absolutely. Free-to-Play MOBAs have a higher dickhead ratio AND they are more dickish. Therefore, LoL has loads of massive dickheads compared to, say, Call of Duty, which has a fairly normal amount of averagely dickish players. Free-to_play games are easy to access, thus they draw a large crowd of assholes, possibly not more than any regular, paid for game. MOBAs, like LoL, inadvertently encourage players to be utter cunts towards both the other team and, especially, their own team.

While I agree that there is little incentive for players to care about their behavior in games like CoD, they generally don't have an incentive to be assholes to their own team. It's a rare day that I hear my own team shout at me in Battlefield or Call of Duty. If I played LoL, I can guarantee that I would be verbally attacked no less than 50% of the time, regardless of how well I preform.

In conclusion, Free-to-Play games breed high number of players, often times dickheads, and MOBAs breed a special kind of dickhead that most other games have never really seen.

Ok well then I haven't missed the point as there are not more dick heads in free to play games. There are just more dick heads in what are generally popular system. From what I've seen which isn't a great sample size XBL is just as much a cesspool as any FTP game and that is sub based so I just don't see the point that Free means greater dickheads I just see more people means greater dickheads. I have had plenty of CoD games with dickheads well able to rival those in any Moba or FTP game.

 

[Rastien]

Moba games are like a drug.

If you're stomping and your team is winning your on top of the world (more so if your carrying) you feel like a god among men crushing lesser insects under your mighty heel. The feeling of a hard earned win is incredible easily considered a 'high'

However.

If you're having a bad game you can be sure that at least 1 if not 3 other people will happy call you everything under the sun. You know your playing badly the last thing you need is these people telling you how bad you're playing as you tilt playing worse getting more abuse it's a downward spiral, like bad a trip.

You get to the point with Moba games where you take a risk every time you join a game, will you experience the dizzying highs of destroying an opponent? or get crazy pissed and fucked off with the game due to your team mates being massive cunts and wonder why you bothered.

Sometimes I decide the risk of possible rage and shittyness doesn't warrant the chance to experience the amazing rush and so i don't play for awhile.


TLDR: Mobo games are comparable to the Class A's of the drug world

 

[Scrubiii]

So did Penny Arcade, so did I, so did a bunch of people who realise that the MOBA community is completely irredeemable.

It seems to me that what the author of that cartoon is really saying is "I've just been picking a champion I like and playing them in any position, against any opponent, without any semblance of an actual strategy. For some reason, everyone on my team got really pissed with me about this, so I uninstalled the game"

I'm not saying there isn't a problem with the LoL community, because there certainly is. The irony though, is that a large part of the problem is people like this, who refuse to adhere to any strategy beyond "I like this champion, and feel like playing in this lane today", because it's a team game, and people who refuse to co-operate with the rest of the team just take everyone's enjoyment of the game away.

 

[Rastien]

So did Penny Arcade, so did I, so did a bunch of people who realise that the MOBA community is completely irredeemable.

It seems to me that what the author of that cartoon is really saying is "I've just been picking a champion I like and playing them in any position, against any opponent, without any semblance of an actual strategy. For some reason, everyone on my team got really pissed with me about this, so I uninstalled the game"

I'm not saying there isn't a problem with the LoL community, because there certainly is. The irony though, is that a large part of the problem is people like this, who refuse to adhere to any strategy beyond "I like this champion, and feel like playing in this lane today", because it's a team game, and people who refuse to co-operate with the rest of the team just take everyone's enjoyment of the game away.

What cross's my mind is they are playing for enjoyment they may not be in ranked so why should they have to adhere to the meta? They have as much right to enjoy the game their way as you do yours, whilst in all honesty i agree with your stand point on it's a team game unless your queuing as a team i don't think it's fair to force people into roles they may not be comfortable with.

 

[Izzy1320]

That's funny, I'm on the verge of downloading LoL because a co-worker keeps bugging me about it. I'm really not that interested in it, but I can at least tell her that I gave it a try.

So the community still isn't very newb-friendly? Good to know. I've been reading up on a few tutorials and have watched TotalBiscuit's "WTF is..." on the game so I'll have at least some idea of what I'm doing.

On the contrary to this, when I first started playing, the community was very 'newb-friendly' At the beginning, when all players are on the same level, unless they're playing on a second account, skill and ego don't often present themselves as issues. As you continue playing, however, and your level slowly climbs, you will meet more and more players completely assured of their own self-worth on the team. It is these people, the ones that rage and blame the rest of the team for their failures, that sadly harm the community as a whole. As with anything, though, I have found it important to remember that LoL is, in the end, just a game. And with any game, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. If you won, congratulations. If you lost, pick yourself up and try again later. Don't pin the blame on others, no matter how culpable they might be, lest you become part of the problem.

 

[TsunamiWombat]

This is why I play nonranked random ques. So I can relax, give 0 fucks, and have fun. Ladder eats all the twats who GOTTA WIN and I get to enjoy playing Nami Support.

 

[Scrubiii]

So did Penny Arcade, so did I, so did a bunch of people who realise that the MOBA community is completely irredeemable.

It seems to me that what the author of that cartoon is really saying is "I've just been picking a champion I like and playing them in any position, against any opponent, without any semblance of an actual strategy. For some reason, everyone on my team got really pissed with me about this, so I uninstalled the game"

I'm not saying there isn't a problem with the LoL community, because there certainly is. The irony though, is that a large part of the problem is people like this, who refuse to adhere to any strategy beyond "I like this champion, and feel like playing in this lane today", because it's a team game, and people who refuse to co-operate with the rest of the team just take everyone's enjoyment of the game away.

What cross's my mind is they are playing for enjoyment they may not be in ranked so why should they have to adhere to the meta? They have as much right to enjoy the game their way as you do yours, whilst in all honesty i agree with your stand point on it's a team game unless your queuing as a team i don't think it's fair to force people into roles they may not be comfortable with.

I agree with you in principle, but the problem is that you can't play ranked games in LoL until you are level 30 and own 16 champions, so people below level 30 who want to play seriously and strategically are forced together with players like the ones described above who just like to make it up as they go along, and it ends up just being frustrating for everyone. Perhaps the problem is more with the game's matchmaking and ranked play systems than with the players themselves.

 

[Mau95]

Was it something like this?
http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2013/02/25

 

[Carnagath]

Honestly, compared to 2 years ago, the amount of trolls, flamers and etc are in such a minority i can hardly believe it (particularly due to the tribunal) I've played quite alot of MOBAS and i can honestly say that the LoL community at its current point is by far and away one of the most well behaved ones that I've seen.

That's the thing that bothers me actually. Sure tribunal did it's job getting rid of people who want to spam racist remarks and death threats and such. But now that they are gone guess who tribunal is going after? People who get reported over the pettiest crap I've ever seen. Not to mention the people who participate in tribunal are still very punish heavy to which last I checked we are back to an 80% on average punish rate.

Tribunal is flawed because it gives people power who shouldn't have that type of power.

I have no idea which server you guys are playing on, but I can tell it's definitely not EUNE.

 

[Carnagath]

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Sorry, I disagree. Taking steps towards enforcing a relatively healthy online environment is not a bad thing. If you were calling people "fuckers" and "retarded" left and right, you were rightfully banned. I don't understand how you can possibly consider this "minimal", do you enjoy playing games where people call you names like that all the time? Nobody expects you to get along with everyone, just don't be a douchebag, that's all. If someone is bad, they are bad, you can help them get better or not, you're not obligated to, but verbally abusing them serves no purpose. If they are actively sabotaging your team, there are tools in place to report them for it.

People disagree, most likely throw an insult at each other and just move on. Just like in real life when talking to strangers.

Again, this baffles me. Let me put it this way, if you used language like that on strangers because you disagreed with them, and got away with it, you are either very very lucky or live in a really weird place.

Bottom line, you chose to occupy yourself with a game where you depend on other people to win. If you can't handle the fact that these other people are often a wild card and will not perform as you expect them to, then you should play something different and cut them out of the equation. Heart of the Swarm is coming out in 10 days, maybe try that. You will find that people very rarely abuse each other there, you lose because the opponent played better, or used a strategy that, even if you consider it "cheap", was well practiced, well timed and deadly, and you just did not react to it properly.

 

[gyrobot_v1legacy]

That is why League needs to implement HoN/DOTA's ragequit system, summoenr leaves for good, the team takes the gold from, gets all of their stats bad abilities boosted by 20% while we get a "RAGEQUIT!"

 

[Headdrivehardscrew]

Didn't you consider getting a fixed team?

My friends did not wanna commit, and too many other things to do to actually bother seeking out a fixed team with aligned schedules.

I would be in the same boat as you depending on the time of day/week/month, but since I value my real-life friendlies more than just about any game (except maybe Dark Souls time, that one's off limits), I went for a strategy I would never adopt on friendface, titter or kinkedin: amass a thousand promising players in your buddy list, so you'll never be alone when you do feel like going for another round of perfecting your zen momentum and impact in LOL. On one hand it's sysiphos all over, on the other I really think there's always a way or two to improve, get better, cut down on slack and errors and just remain in a very alert and functional state even though the body is aching and tired and the soul feels like shutting down and going into hibernation.

I uninstalled Warcraft III an estimated fifty times, but I must have installed it around sixty times, so there's always a box with a running copy around. I think online chess is rather sad, I really need the tactile feedback of the wood or marble or stale bread dough there. With LOL and WC3 it's really just about the availability of decent opponents and, if feasible, useful team mates. Once you hit a thousand, chances of not finding the required amount of other inspired souls gets infinitesimally low.

 

[Headdrivehardscrew]

That is why League needs to implement HoN/DOTA's ragequit system, summoenr leaves for good, the team takes the gold from, gets all of their stats bad abilities boosted by 20% while we get a "RAGEQUIT!"

I come from the Dark Souls school of thought.

If we're one down, winning feels so much more... rewarding. Granted, the enemy team might annihilate us, but that doesn't necessarily have to be the only logical consequence. Playing team and proper communication go a long way in LOL.

Having to cope with a quitter isn't half as bad as facing the consequences of a selfish, ignorant and feeding noob. There's just little in-game that allows one to fix a fed overfiend powerhouse with a large bank account.

 

[Z of the Na'vi]

I used to play it a lot more than I do now, as well.

However I keep it installed for whenever I get that itch to play against bots and only bots.

 

[Reven]

Fidchell Attano : Why did you get a warning? WTF? :|

Because just like LOL all it takes for one person to be report happy and it only takes one moderator or a group consensus of enough reports to get a warning.

Honestly that's my big beef with posting here and playing LOL. My attitude really hasn't changed at all and I've been playing LOL since closed beta. It was only until last year that suddenly I kept getting warnings and then suspensions. This was before you could see the reports with the exception of my last ban and I didn't swear, didn't insult anyone and the only logical reason was because I "performed poorly" at the gold level of play that my team and opponent all decided to report me even though having LOLreplay the reason we won at the end cause cause I caught an opponent off guard.

The standards the people who participate in tribunal is just too high where you often see the hypocrisy with the attitude given by said participants. It is too unrealistic that people are honestly afraid to play outside the meta or do what they like to do in DOTA and actually play champions they like.

I'd really like to say more about LOL's system but suffice to say I'm under an NDA(don't even try and ask me for future content as said content I saw has been released since the NDA is about 1 year old) and I know some Rioters and pro players that while having high standards for tournaments is something everyone agrees on for good sportsmanship the same standards being applied for people who often might have a terrible day in real life or have a terrible home life and have video games as a hobby as a means to get away should not be held to the same standards as if they were on the job or need some company to be their parent.

Everyone can certainly agree that getting rid of people who make death threats or tell someone to go commit suicide or make constant racist remarks such as ****** or ***** or cracker is grounds for a suspension. But having such unrealistic standards in a high stress, fast paced game where not only is the design of the game forces players to play specific roles but also where one mistake early or late can basically determine the entire match due to a champion's potential either due to items or base stats is going to make some people not get along and that is fine. Considering that both parties are going to be strangers there are very few odds that the same people are going to meet again. Having the ability to vent is needed and what most people recommend by a physical action or yelling is actually psychologically damaging and socially crippling because any counselor will tell you the method of how a person vents becomes a habit. Would you rather have a person that is taught that communication is a better form of venting or doing what every tribunal participant says to people to just yell at their monitors. Yeah that's going to work well when you have to deal with stress such as raising kids, or talking to an irate client or dealing with a death in the family.

When you start treating your hobby and have the same standards as if you had a job then I expect to be paid. Cause if not then just like 99% of people who play video games it is a form of leisure, to get away from the stress of everyday life where one doesn't always have to put on the social graces because we all need time to vent or have the ability to be someone we aren't.

I've seen hundreds of posts like this claiming that they were suspended because of poor performance, however, two things to note:
1: The poor performance/skill button is simply something designed (in theory) to help the elo/ ladder system in both normal and ranked.
2: This means that being reported as an unskilled player (for performing poorly in a match) is not a punishable offense.

I too have been playing league for a VERY long time, and not once have i received a warning or suspension for my behavior, and no i wasn't mute during those matches either, I've had my share of terrible matches in which my teammates told me they would report me, and you know what? nothing has happened, not once even though i can have some brutal losing streaks. I know my own example is biased (as i am me etc) however I have seen so many posts claiming they were banned for having a bad match or teammates that were pissed at them, when in truth people that go out of their way in the tribunal choose to punish people that they feel deserved it.

I understand that you feel the standards that you are being held up to are too high, but that is your own taste, if you feel you can't conform to it then change game, for me, the standards we are being judged at are perfect for a game as competitive, especially when it can cause people to get angry (which i can understand). But at the end of the day, the creators and the community want the game to have an air of sportsmanship about it, and if you don't like it, well i don't know what else to say but that it might not be the game or community for you.

 

[Fidchell Attano]

Fidchell Attano : Why did you get a warning? WTF? :|

I dunno bro, I guess I got it for insulting the LoL community directly, but it's okay. Thanks for the concern though, I appreciate it.

 

[Fidchell Attano]

Didn't you consider getting a fixed team?

My friends did not wanna commit, and too many other things to do to actually bother seeking out a fixed team with aligned schedules.

I would be in the same boat as you depending on the time of day/week/month, but since I value my real-life friendlies more than just about any game (except maybe Dark Souls time, that one's off limits), I went for a strategy I would never adopt on friendface, titter or kinkedin: amass a thousand promising players in your buddy list, so you'll never be alone when you do feel like going for another round of perfecting your zen momentum and impact in LOL. On one hand it's sysiphos all over, on the other I really think there's always a way or two to improve, get better, cut down on slack and errors and just remain in a very alert and functional state even though the body is aching and tired and the soul feels like shutting down and going into hibernation.

I uninstalled Warcraft III an estimated fifty times, but I must have installed it around sixty times, so there's always a box with a running copy around. I think online chess is rather sad, I really need the tactile feedback of the wood or marble or stale bread dough there. With LOL and WC3 it's really just about the availability of decent opponents and, if feasible, useful team mates. Once you hit a thousand, chances of not finding the required amount of other inspired souls gets infinitesimally low.

I only keep people I know (And care about) added to my facebook, and twitter is just a bunch of people listening to what I have to say.

 

[Fidchell Attano]

Okay guys, the reason I took a break from this game by uninstalling it was mainly because of ranked. In ranked I literally had five games in a row where people fought over roles, got pegged with one role, refused it, and decided to fuck us over as long as it meant seizing that role. Five games in a row, I don't remember how many I won, but I remember losing a lot. . . . . . .

Funny thing, the moment I go back onto a ranked game, and select adc Corki, and ask for support Leona, the 3rd pick grabs her, the 5th pick who agreed to support did not have Leona, and therefore, they could not trade.

The guy who picked Leona said he was not going to support, and was going to go top. We had a top selected already, and our 5th pick selected mid....I just dodged, because I was not dealing with this again.

Seriously, the moment I decided to give this damn game another shot, once again I am disgusted and enraged by how stupid these people can be.

I am currently trapped in Silver V and Silver IV, because of a zigzagging win/loss ratio.
I figured out a pattern of days of which I was paired with a better grade of people and teammates (Sunday, Monday, Tuesday.) After a while the pattern stopped working, and I began to be paired with worse and worse players, whether they were just bad or just stubbornly wanted their favorite role, rather than what was best for getting the win. They just don't get the point if ranked, and it angers me to no end!

And really, the reasons for my losses just keep piling up, and not for the right reasons.

My reasons for my losses should be:
-I need to improve, and learn more roles. (Ultra rare)
-The enemy team was just better, and I need to move to their level (Super rare)

My reasons for losing LP are:
-My teammates feed at top and mid
-Their Jungler had an intense presence while ours had zero, they were tower diving us by level 6, and we could do nothing about it.
-My supporter is just bad at his job and does not ward, or the champion selection was not in harmony with my adc champion
-enemy Mid roams and our mid does not call mia, or assist, even worse: Sometimes the support doesnt ward in this case!
-My team selected a horrid team comp
-Our support does not ward late game, sans three places, meanwhile the enemy team wards the entire map and controls our jungle.
-Somebody decided to get themselves killed in a foolish way late game, there are four of us left, and we are essentially fodder for the enemy team at that point. (Game of Throws)

Really, I think I should just drop ranked, Silver seems to be the new bronze.....