So, I finally uninstalled LoL from my computer.

[JSDodd]

If you hate ranked then play normals.
If you're "stuck" in a division or league odds are that's about your level of skill.
And thirdly, i've made enough friends in LoL from just being nice during matches that i never have to solo queue. Try being more friendly in future and i'm sure your online gaming experience will be much nicer

 

[Headdrivehardscrew]

-Well, I was Silver IV 2 weeks ago, one week later I had one game too many with teammates as I explained about, and I was bumped down to silver V again.

note that I have been switching between Silver IV and V for about 2 months now.

-When I play LoL, I normally do it with friends I know, my buddy list is kind of a moot point.

Yes, but don't you agree that there's a significant chance of you being more successful and your experience being more uplifting if you were playing only with people you could actually rely on? There's no swearing, no swagger, no dissing, no Schwanzvergleich, and pings are military-grade spot on. If there is a discussion going on, it usually consists of single words and is over after 4-5 lines. Anything else may trigger an impulse to forfeit the match and remove the jerk that invited the undesirable element to the match.

LOL is totalitarian perfection.

LOL may not be love, but it's a lesson in efficiency.

 

[Headdrivehardscrew]

I think one of the hardest things to swallow, are teammates who do not know what they are doing, and drag the team down as a whole, you try to reason with them, and I mean reason with them, not insult them by suggesting they use this or that, and giving them reasons why they should not be using their current build. It normally ends with being cussed at, called a n00b, or ignored completely without any regard for improvement. These people literally punish you for being nice, and looking past them not having knowledge of what to do about their role/character, it is baffling!

Yes.

If it's just one such... undesirable element, you might actually succeed at influencing them and nudging them in a useful position, inspiring and empowering them to do better than they normally would.

If that's not an option, then the remaining four of you will have to compensate, which raises the stress level significantly.

If you're unlucky and you get two or more functional autists with blow-up egos, it's very, very unlikely to achieve anything. You play with the rabble, you stay with the rabble. Or become a really misanthropic, bitter, unhappy and miserable person.

No one deserves that.

Well, OK, hardly anyone.

 

[Vuliev]

From what i CAN make out, he's claiming the reason he got banned was because he didn't follow the meta (the actual reason cannot be seen on these images because it is not his reform card) I find it EXTREMELY unlikely that this was the reason for his ban as Morello and other riot employees have stated MULTIPLE TIMES that a person will not be perma banned for going against the meta, much more likely, his teammates got pissed at him, and he sank to their level and got himself banned through continuing a flame war.

Then WookieeCookie's response should have said as much. Having seen plenty of users on the forums in similar situations actually get called on their behavior by Pendragon, Runaan, Cookie, Morello, even Phreak, there's absolutely no reason that should be omitted from an official response from Support. And when they don't make it clear that the player is being punished for their attitude and not their picks, it reflects poorly both on the quality of Support and the Tribunal system in general.

The fact that Cookie even specifically mentioned the "Fiddlesticks bot without support items" is what really flies in the face of what you're saying--it shows that even Riot is starting to design and balance their game around the strategy developed from the 2010 Dreamhack, and enforce it to the point of punishing players for not obeying. Basically, the complete opposite of what they should be doing.

Moreover, all of those picks are plenty viable: Fiora and AP Pony are good counter-mids, Fiddlesticks doesn't need support items in bot (especially not with the gold changes.) And banning for randoming in Ranked? Really? DOTA 2 gives you a starting bonus for randoming (and subsequently punishes you for switching), because the game is developed with the mindset that the player is responsible enough to hard-random a character and perform well with whatever he's been handed.

LOL is totalitarian perfection.

LOL may not be love, but it's a lesson in efficiency.

A lesson in inefficiency, perhaps. By it's very nature, LoL's extremely rigid culture and razor's-edge balance create conditions wherein any dissent from the norm is brutally punished. Sure, it may seem like forcing everyone to conform produces optimum performance, but that is (or more accurately, was) only an illusion. Since Riot really started balancing for the Dreamhack strategy (I refuse to call it The Meta, because it's not a metagame), that illusion has started to become reality. For its roster, LoL is rather extraordinary in its balance--but that "balance" is simply an artificial construction, so finely honed that any disruption to it is heavily damped to a point where it doesn't actually add anything new to the game at all.

For the effort put in to maintain it, LoL simply doesn't have enough of a reward to players that want a truly dynamic, organic challenge.

 

[RedDeadFred]

I started in Silver V and worked my way up to Silver III in a matter of like 30 games... Stop blaming others. Ya some people cause you to lose the game but for the most part, you are in your division for a good reason.

As far as the community, I agree. It doesn't really bother me though because I'm good at not letting assholes bother me. FYI, I main jungle and they tend to get the most shit from their teammates. I advice everyone here who does not jungle to watch this video:

Whoooof, that just put me off the game entirely. If it's actually that meta that 20-30% of the words he used were shorthand...I just.
No.
No thank you madam.

HmmmmmmmmmmmNO.

Nope.

He used about two or three abbreviations or 'shorthand' expressions, the rest was proper LOL terminology. If you can't be arsed to learn the basics of in-game communication, you're not going to learn the game, which in turn is bound to make you a horrible teammate, resulting in poor experiences for both you and everyone unlucky enough to play with you.

captcha: howdy partner!

Haha thank you sir. Took the words right out of my mouth. I think the only real shorthand expressions he used were AD carry and CS. Both are terms that you should probably know by the time you reach level 15.
Unwilling to learn basic terminology? Phew, I'm glad he or she is not going to play. It makes for a very frustrating teammate. That is the type of person who when you call MIA (or use the new awesome ping for it) completely ignores it and then gets ganked.

 

[DrOswald]

Okay guys, the reason I took a break from this game by uninstalling it was mainly because of ranked. In ranked I literally had five games in a row where people fought over roles, got pegged with one role, refused it, and decided to fuck us over as long as it meant seizing that role. Five games in a row, I don't remember how many I won, but I remember losing a lot. . . . . . .

Funny thing, the moment I go back onto a ranked game, and select adc Corki, and ask for support Leona, the 3rd pick grabs her, the 5th pick who agreed to support did not have Leona, and therefore, they could not trade.

The guy who picked Leona said he was not going to support, and was going to go top. We had a top selected already, and our 5th pick selected mid....I just dodged, because I was not dealing with this again.

Seriously, the moment I decided to give this damn game another shot, once again I am disgusted and enraged by how stupid these people can be.

I am currently trapped in Silver V and Silver IV, because of a zigzagging win/loss ratio.
I figured out a pattern of days of which I was paired with a better grade of people and teammates (Sunday, Monday, Tuesday.) After a while the pattern stopped working, and I began to be paired with worse and worse players, whether they were just bad or just stubbornly wanted their favorite role, rather than what was best for getting the win. They just don't get the point if ranked, and it angers me to no end!

And really, the reasons for my losses just keep piling up, and not for the right reasons.

My reasons for my losses should be:
-I need to improve, and learn more roles. (Ultra rare)
-The enemy team was just better, and I need to move to their level (Super rare)

My reasons for losing LP are:
-My teammates feed at top and mid
-Their Jungler had an intense presence while ours had zero, they were tower diving us by level 6, and we could do nothing about it.
-My supporter is just bad at his job and does not ward, or the champion selection was not in harmony with my adc champion
-enemy Mid roams and our mid does not call mia, or assist, even worse: Sometimes the support doesnt ward in this case!
-My team selected a horrid team comp
-Our support does not ward late game, sans three places, meanwhile the enemy team wards the entire map and controls our jungle.
-Somebody decided to get themselves killed in a foolish way late game, there are four of us left, and we are essentially fodder for the enemy team at that point. (Game of Throws)

Really, I think I should just drop ranked, Silver seems to be the new bronze.....

I am at silver IV right now and I just don't see these kinds of problems. I mean, people at our level don't play a perfect game. I often have to work hard to convince them to remain on task and push instead of chasing Sona across all creation, but more often than not everyone is at least ok. I have a pretty solid win rate and I am climbing steadily up the ladder. I rarely get trolls in my games and more often than not I feel that my efforts have a great deal to do with how the game turns out.

I know a lot of people who have the same problems you do. These are people who I know personally and occasionally play with. These people invariably have one thing in common: An extremely negative attitude. They are rude to the people they are randomly teamed with and that causes a breakdown in teamwork. People who would have been silent or even supportive actively troll and feed because they are willing to sink the ship as long as you will go down with them.

Now, it is possible you have inordinately bad luck, in which case I sincerely apologize. But it is also possible that you are contributing to the negative experience that causes normal people to troll. You might want to take a moment to look at your behavior, not just your skill and knowledge of the game.

 

[smithy_2045]

I like how everyone who can't improve their ranking in these games can't do so "because everyone else is shit" or something to that extent. Everyone who plays has to put up with the same shit. You can't improve your rank because you're just not good enough.

A naive viewpoint of what really goes on in ranked gameplay.

No, the naive viewpoint is that you're the only one who puts up with that crap. The better players are able to work their way through it, the lesser players are not. You might lose an individual game because your team is just too dumb, but the overall trend relies on your own abilities. Any suggestion otherwise is a delusion of your ability.

 

[Fidchell Attano]

I like how everyone who can't improve their ranking in these games can't do so "because everyone else is shit" or something to that extent. Everyone who plays has to put up with the same shit. You can't improve your rank because you're just not good enough.

A naive viewpoint of what really goes on in ranked gameplay.

No, the naive viewpoint is that you're the only one who puts up with that crap. The better players are able to work their way through it, the lesser players are not. You might lose an individual game because your team is just too dumb, but the overall trend relies on your own abilities. Any suggestion otherwise is a delusion of your ability.

Trying to parody the scholar or the philosopher does not MAKE you the scholar or the philosopher.

 

[smithy_2045]

I like how everyone who can't improve their ranking in these games can't do so "because everyone else is shit" or something to that extent. Everyone who plays has to put up with the same shit. You can't improve your rank because you're just not good enough.

A naive viewpoint of what really goes on in ranked gameplay.

No, the naive viewpoint is that you're the only one who puts up with that crap. The better players are able to work their way through it, the lesser players are not. You might lose an individual game because your team is just too dumb, but the overall trend relies on your own abilities. Any suggestion otherwise is a delusion of your ability.

Trying to parody the scholar or the philosopher does not MAKE you the scholar or the philosopher.

Righto mate, you keep telling yourself you're just really unlucky with the teams you get placed with, even though it's most likely not the case.

 

[Fidchell Attano]

I like how everyone who can't improve their ranking in these games can't do so "because everyone else is shit" or something to that extent. Everyone who plays has to put up with the same shit. You can't improve your rank because you're just not good enough.

A naive viewpoint of what really goes on in ranked gameplay.

No, the naive viewpoint is that you're the only one who puts up with that crap. The better players are able to work their way through it, the lesser players are not. You might lose an individual game because your team is just too dumb, but the overall trend relies on your own abilities. Any suggestion otherwise is a delusion of your ability.

Trying to parody the scholar or the philosopher does not MAKE you the scholar or the philosopher.

Righto mate, you keep telling yourself you're just really unlucky with the teams you get placed with, even though it's most likely not the case.

And keep telling yourself you know soooo~ much about my case as well as everybody else's.

 

[smithy_2045]

I like how everyone who can't improve their ranking in these games can't do so "because everyone else is shit" or something to that extent. Everyone who plays has to put up with the same shit. You can't improve your rank because you're just not good enough.

A naive viewpoint of what really goes on in ranked gameplay.

No, the naive viewpoint is that you're the only one who puts up with that crap. The better players are able to work their way through it, the lesser players are not. You might lose an individual game because your team is just too dumb, but the overall trend relies on your own abilities. Any suggestion otherwise is a delusion of your ability.

Trying to parody the scholar or the philosopher does not MAKE you the scholar or the philosopher.

Righto mate, you keep telling yourself you're just really unlucky with the teams you get placed with, even though it's most likely not the case.

And keep telling yourself you know soooo~ much about my case as well as everybody else's.

I don't claim to know the specifics of your case, but I do know simple statistics. The more games you've played, the smaller the error in your ranking. If you've played more than about 30 games, your ranking is very likely to be a good estimate of your ability relative to other players. You'd need a monumentally implausible string of luck, good or bad, for that to not be the case.

 

[Fidchell Attano]

I like how everyone who can't improve their ranking in these games can't do so "because everyone else is shit" or something to that extent. Everyone who plays has to put up with the same shit. You can't improve your rank because you're just not good enough.

A naive viewpoint of what really goes on in ranked gameplay.

No, the naive viewpoint is that you're the only one who puts up with that crap. The better players are able to work their way through it, the lesser players are not. You might lose an individual game because your team is just too dumb, but the overall trend relies on your own abilities. Any suggestion otherwise is a delusion of your ability.

Trying to parody the scholar or the philosopher does not MAKE you the scholar or the philosopher.

Righto mate, you keep telling yourself you're just really unlucky with the teams you get placed with, even though it's most likely not the case.

And keep telling yourself you know soooo~ much about my case as well as everybody else's.

I don't claim to know the specifics of your case, but I do know simple statistics. The more games you've played, the smaller the error in your ranking. If you've played more than about 30 games, your ranking is very likely to be a good estimate of your ability relative to other players. You'd need a monumentally implausible string of luck, good or bad, for that to not be the case.

The problem with statistics is that they demand the end without the means, and on what grounds are over 30 games a good estimate of my ranking? I mean when I started this season my record was 25-7. Then bad players started showing up.

 

[Davroth]

Okay, let's apply math to the claim that it's everyone else's fault that you are stuck in an ELO/whatever the system is.

If you are a good player, and you it's not your fault, then you should constantly rise in rank. Let me explain. If you are constantly a good player, then your team consists of one good player and 4 players that have an even chance of being good or bad team mates. Now here's the kicker: The enemy team consists of 5 players who have an equal chance of being good or bad.

So statistically, a good player would end up with more victories then losses, provided you play enough games.

Feel free to turn your back on the game, but stop lying to yourself about the reasons why the game frustrates you.

Those were my 2 cents on the subject.

 

[smithy_2045]

I like how everyone who can't improve their ranking in these games can't do so "because everyone else is shit" or something to that extent. Everyone who plays has to put up with the same shit. You can't improve your rank because you're just not good enough.

A naive viewpoint of what really goes on in ranked gameplay.

No, the naive viewpoint is that you're the only one who puts up with that crap. The better players are able to work their way through it, the lesser players are not. You might lose an individual game because your team is just too dumb, but the overall trend relies on your own abilities. Any suggestion otherwise is a delusion of your ability.

Trying to parody the scholar or the philosopher does not MAKE you the scholar or the philosopher.

Righto mate, you keep telling yourself you're just really unlucky with the teams you get placed with, even though it's most likely not the case.

And keep telling yourself you know soooo~ much about my case as well as everybody else's.

I don't claim to know the specifics of your case, but I do know simple statistics. The more games you've played, the smaller the error in your ranking. If you've played more than about 30 games, your ranking is very likely to be a good estimate of your ability relative to other players. You'd need a monumentally implausible string of luck, good or bad, for that to not be the case.

The problem with statistics is that they demand the end without the means, and on what grounds are over 30 games a good estimate of my ranking? I mean when I started this season my record was 25-7. Then bad players started showing up.

30 games gives enough time for you to have moved to where you belong based on your rating.

So basically, what you're saying is, you're not good enough to win if you have to compensate for lesser players on your team. Sounds like your rating might be too high.

 

[Fidchell Attano]

I like how everyone who can't improve their ranking in these games can't do so "because everyone else is shit" or something to that extent. Everyone who plays has to put up with the same shit. You can't improve your rank because you're just not good enough.

A naive viewpoint of what really goes on in ranked gameplay.

No, the naive viewpoint is that you're the only one who puts up with that crap. The better players are able to work their way through it, the lesser players are not. You might lose an individual game because your team is just too dumb, but the overall trend relies on your own abilities. Any suggestion otherwise is a delusion of your ability.

Trying to parody the scholar or the philosopher does not MAKE you the scholar or the philosopher.

Righto mate, you keep telling yourself you're just really unlucky with the teams you get placed with, even though it's most likely not the case.

And keep telling yourself you know soooo~ much about my case as well as everybody else's.

I don't claim to know the specifics of your case, but I do know simple statistics. The more games you've played, the smaller the error in your ranking. If you've played more than about 30 games, your ranking is very likely to be a good estimate of your ability relative to other players. You'd need a monumentally implausible string of luck, good or bad, for that to not be the case.

The problem with statistics is that they demand the end without the means, and on what grounds are over 30 games a good estimate of my ranking? I mean when I started this season my record was 25-7. Then bad players started showing up.

30 games gives enough time for you to have moved to where you belong based on your rating.

So basically, what you're saying is, you're not good enough to win if you have to compensate for lesser players on your team. Sounds like your rating might be too high.

Moved up to Silver III and dropped back to Silver IV and on series for IV to III again, your move, prick.

 

[smithy_2045]

I like how everyone who can't improve their ranking in these games can't do so "because everyone else is shit" or something to that extent. Everyone who plays has to put up with the same shit. You can't improve your rank because you're just not good enough.

A naive viewpoint of what really goes on in ranked gameplay.

No, the naive viewpoint is that you're the only one who puts up with that crap. The better players are able to work their way through it, the lesser players are not. You might lose an individual game because your team is just too dumb, but the overall trend relies on your own abilities. Any suggestion otherwise is a delusion of your ability.

Trying to parody the scholar or the philosopher does not MAKE you the scholar or the philosopher.

Righto mate, you keep telling yourself you're just really unlucky with the teams you get placed with, even though it's most likely not the case.

And keep telling yourself you know soooo~ much about my case as well as everybody else's.

I don't claim to know the specifics of your case, but I do know simple statistics. The more games you've played, the smaller the error in your ranking. If you've played more than about 30 games, your ranking is very likely to be a good estimate of your ability relative to other players. You'd need a monumentally implausible string of luck, good or bad, for that to not be the case.

The problem with statistics is that they demand the end without the means, and on what grounds are over 30 games a good estimate of my ranking? I mean when I started this season my record was 25-7. Then bad players started showing up.

30 games gives enough time for you to have moved to where you belong based on your rating.

So basically, what you're saying is, you're not good enough to win if you have to compensate for lesser players on your team. Sounds like your rating might be too high.

Moved up to Silver III and dropped back to Silver IV and on series for IV to III again, your move, prick.

I'm not sure what your point is.