So, I finally uninstalled LoL from my computer.

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That is why League needs to implement HoN/DOTA's ragequit system, summoenr leaves for good, the team takes the gold from, gets all of their stats bad abilities boosted by 20% while we get a "RAGEQUIT!"
 

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Fidchell Attano said:
Auron said:
Didn't you consider getting a fixed team?
My friends did not wanna commit, and too many other things to do to actually bother seeking out a fixed team with aligned schedules.
I would be in the same boat as you depending on the time of day/week/month, but since I value my real-life friendlies more than just about any game (except maybe Dark Souls time, that one's off limits), I went for a strategy I would never adopt on friendface, titter or kinkedin: amass a thousand promising players in your buddy list, so you'll never be alone when you do feel like going for another round of perfecting your zen momentum and impact in LOL. On one hand it's sysiphos all over, on the other I really think there's always a way or two to improve, get better, cut down on slack and errors and just remain in a very alert and functional state even though the body is aching and tired and the soul feels like shutting down and going into hibernation.

I uninstalled Warcraft III an estimated fifty times, but I must have installed it around sixty times, so there's always a box with a running copy around. I think online chess is rather sad, I really need the tactile feedback of the wood or marble or stale bread dough there. With LOL and WC3 it's really just about the availability of decent opponents and, if feasible, useful team mates. Once you hit a thousand, chances of not finding the required amount of other inspired souls gets infinitesimally low.
 

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gyrobot said:
That is why League needs to implement HoN/DOTA's ragequit system, summoenr leaves for good, the team takes the gold from, gets all of their stats bad abilities boosted by 20% while we get a "RAGEQUIT!"
I come from the Dark Souls school of thought.

If we're one down, winning feels so much more... rewarding. Granted, the enemy team might annihilate us, but that doesn't necessarily have to be the only logical consequence. Playing team and proper communication go a long way in LOL.

Having to cope with a quitter isn't half as bad as facing the consequences of a selfish, ignorant and feeding noob. There's just little in-game that allows one to fix a fed overfiend powerhouse with a large bank account.
 

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I used to play it a lot more than I do now, as well.

However I keep it installed for whenever I get that itch to play against bots and only bots.
 

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Fidchell Attano : Why did you get a warning? WTF? :|
Because just like LOL all it takes for one person to be report happy and it only takes one moderator or a group consensus of enough reports to get a warning.

Honestly that's my big beef with posting here and playing LOL. My attitude really hasn't changed at all and I've been playing LOL since closed beta. It was only until last year that suddenly I kept getting warnings and then suspensions. This was before you could see the reports with the exception of my last ban and I didn't swear, didn't insult anyone and the only logical reason was because I "performed poorly" at the gold level of play that my team and opponent all decided to report me even though having LOLreplay the reason we won at the end cause cause I caught an opponent off guard.

The standards the people who participate in tribunal is just too high where you often see the hypocrisy with the attitude given by said participants. It is too unrealistic that people are honestly afraid to play outside the meta or do what they like to do in DOTA and actually play champions they like.

I'd really like to say more about LOL's system but suffice to say I'm under an NDA(don't even try and ask me for future content as said content I saw has been released since the NDA is about 1 year old) and I know some Rioters and pro players that while having high standards for tournaments is something everyone agrees on for good sportsmanship the same standards being applied for people who often might have a terrible day in real life or have a terrible home life and have video games as a hobby as a means to get away should not be held to the same standards as if they were on the job or need some company to be their parent.

Everyone can certainly agree that getting rid of people who make death threats or tell someone to go commit suicide or make constant racist remarks such as ****** or ***** or cracker is grounds for a suspension. But having such unrealistic standards in a high stress, fast paced game where not only is the design of the game forces players to play specific roles but also where one mistake early or late can basically determine the entire match due to a champion's potential either due to items or base stats is going to make some people not get along and that is fine. Considering that both parties are going to be strangers there are very few odds that the same people are going to meet again. Having the ability to vent is needed and what most people recommend by a physical action or yelling is actually psychologically damaging and socially crippling because any counselor will tell you the method of how a person vents becomes a habit. Would you rather have a person that is taught that communication is a better form of venting or doing what every tribunal participant says to people to just yell at their monitors. Yeah that's going to work well when you have to deal with stress such as raising kids, or talking to an irate client or dealing with a death in the family.

When you start treating your hobby and have the same standards as if you had a job then I expect to be paid. Cause if not then just like 99% of people who play video games it is a form of leisure, to get away from the stress of everyday life where one doesn't always have to put on the social graces because we all need time to vent or have the ability to be someone we aren't.
I've seen hundreds of posts like this claiming that they were suspended because of poor performance, however, two things to note:
1: The poor performance/skill button is simply something designed (in theory) to help the elo/ ladder system in both normal and ranked.
2: This means that being reported as an unskilled player (for performing poorly in a match) is not a punishable offense.

I too have been playing league for a VERY long time, and not once have i received a warning or suspension for my behavior, and no i wasn't mute during those matches either, I've had my share of terrible matches in which my teammates told me they would report me, and you know what? nothing has happened, not once even though i can have some brutal losing streaks. I know my own example is biased (as i am me etc) however I have seen so many posts claiming they were banned for having a bad match or teammates that were pissed at them, when in truth people that go out of their way in the tribunal choose to punish people that they feel deserved it.

I understand that you feel the standards that you are being held up to are too high, but that is your own taste, if you feel you can't conform to it then change game, for me, the standards we are being judged at are perfect for a game as competitive, especially when it can cause people to get angry (which i can understand). But at the end of the day, the creators and the community want the game to have an air of sportsmanship about it, and if you don't like it, well i don't know what else to say but that it might not be the game or community for you.
 

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blazearmoru said:
Fidchell Attano : Why did you get a warning? WTF? :|
I dunno bro, I guess I got it for insulting the LoL community directly, but it's okay. Thanks for the concern though, I appreciate it.
 

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Headdrivehardscrew said:
Fidchell Attano said:
Auron said:
Didn't you consider getting a fixed team?
My friends did not wanna commit, and too many other things to do to actually bother seeking out a fixed team with aligned schedules.
I would be in the same boat as you depending on the time of day/week/month, but since I value my real-life friendlies more than just about any game (except maybe Dark Souls time, that one's off limits), I went for a strategy I would never adopt on friendface, titter or kinkedin: amass a thousand promising players in your buddy list, so you'll never be alone when you do feel like going for another round of perfecting your zen momentum and impact in LOL. On one hand it's sysiphos all over, on the other I really think there's always a way or two to improve, get better, cut down on slack and errors and just remain in a very alert and functional state even though the body is aching and tired and the soul feels like shutting down and going into hibernation.

I uninstalled Warcraft III an estimated fifty times, but I must have installed it around sixty times, so there's always a box with a running copy around. I think online chess is rather sad, I really need the tactile feedback of the wood or marble or stale bread dough there. With LOL and WC3 it's really just about the availability of decent opponents and, if feasible, useful team mates. Once you hit a thousand, chances of not finding the required amount of other inspired souls gets infinitesimally low.
I only keep people I know (And care about) added to my facebook, and twitter is just a bunch of people listening to what I have to say.
 

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Okay guys, the reason I took a break from this game by uninstalling it was mainly because of ranked. In ranked I literally had five games in a row where people fought over roles, got pegged with one role, refused it, and decided to fuck us over as long as it meant seizing that role. Five games in a row, I don't remember how many I won, but I remember losing a lot. . . . . . .

Funny thing, the moment I go back onto a ranked game, and select adc Corki, and ask for support Leona, the 3rd pick grabs her, the 5th pick who agreed to support did not have Leona, and therefore, they could not trade.

The guy who picked Leona said he was not going to support, and was going to go top. We had a top selected already, and our 5th pick selected mid....I just dodged, because I was not dealing with this again.

Seriously, the moment I decided to give this damn game another shot, once again I am disgusted and enraged by how stupid these people can be.

I am currently trapped in Silver V and Silver IV, because of a zigzagging win/loss ratio.
I figured out a pattern of days of which I was paired with a better grade of people and teammates (Sunday, Monday, Tuesday.) After a while the pattern stopped working, and I began to be paired with worse and worse players, whether they were just bad or just stubbornly wanted their favorite role, rather than what was best for getting the win. They just don't get the point if ranked, and it angers me to no end!

And really, the reasons for my losses just keep piling up, and not for the right reasons.

My reasons for my losses should be:
-I need to improve, and learn more roles. (Ultra rare)
-The enemy team was just better, and I need to move to their level (Super rare)

My reasons for losing LP are:
-My teammates feed at top and mid
-Their Jungler had an intense presence while ours had zero, they were tower diving us by level 6, and we could do nothing about it.
-My supporter is just bad at his job and does not ward, or the champion selection was not in harmony with my adc champion
-enemy Mid roams and our mid does not call mia, or assist, even worse: Sometimes the support doesnt ward in this case!
-My team selected a horrid team comp
-Our support does not ward late game, sans three places, meanwhile the enemy team wards the entire map and controls our jungle.
-Somebody decided to get themselves killed in a foolish way late game, there are four of us left, and we are essentially fodder for the enemy team at that point. (Game of Throws)

Really, I think I should just drop ranked, Silver seems to be the new bronze.....
 

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Fidchell Attano said:
I only keep people I know (And care about) added to my facebook, and twitter is just a bunch of people listening to what I have to say.
So that's where we differ. I mostly have 'friends' I have no clue about and don't really care about on facebook, to amp up the noise-to-signal ratio for what's basically just an exploitative scheme to bombard you with lame, annoying and invasive personalized ads. They also wish to index my friends, so my 'fotos' consists mainly of poorly disguised animal genitalia, food and random, complete strangers that have absolutely nothing to do with my very random list of 'friends'. None of us use their real names on facebook, because that would be plain silly.

Twitter I mostly use to generate a cult following to eventally take over the world - again, more noise, less signal.

OT: Has this significantly changed/degraded into what it is now for you or was it always like this? Have you dropped in ELO lately? Do you play at odd times of day?

Are your teammates random or assembled from invitees that reside on your extensive buddy list?
 

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I like how everyone who can't improve their ranking in these games can't do so "because everyone else is shit" or something to that extent. Everyone who plays has to put up with the same shit. You can't improve your rank because you're just not good enough.
 

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RedDeadFred said:
I started in Silver V and worked my way up to Silver III in a matter of like 30 games... Stop blaming others. Ya some people cause you to lose the game but for the most part, you are in your division for a good reason.

As far as the community, I agree. It doesn't really bother me though because I'm good at not letting assholes bother me. FYI, I main jungle and they tend to get the most shit from their teammates. I advice everyone here who does not jungle to watch this video:
Whoooof, that just put me off the game entirely. If it's actually that meta that 20-30% of the words he used were shorthand...I just.
No.
No thank you madam.
 

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piinyouri said:
RedDeadFred said:
I started in Silver V and worked my way up to Silver III in a matter of like 30 games... Stop blaming others. Ya some people cause you to lose the game but for the most part, you are in your division for a good reason.

As far as the community, I agree. It doesn't really bother me though because I'm good at not letting assholes bother me. FYI, I main jungle and they tend to get the most shit from their teammates. I advice everyone here who does not jungle to watch this video:
Whoooof, that just put me off the game entirely. If it's actually that meta that 20-30% of the words he used were shorthand...I just.
No.
No thank you madam.
HmmmmmmmmmmmNO.

Nope.

He used about two or three abbreviations or 'shorthand' expressions, the rest was proper LOL terminology. If you can't be arsed to learn the basics of in-game communication, you're not going to learn the game, which in turn is bound to make you a horrible teammate, resulting in poor experiences for both you and everyone unlucky enough to play with you.

captcha: howdy partner!
 

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smithy_2045 said:
I like how everyone who can't improve their ranking in these games can't do so "because everyone else is shit" or something to that extent. Everyone who plays has to put up with the same shit. You can't improve your rank because you're just not good enough.
A naive viewpoint of what really goes on in ranked gameplay.
 

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Headdrivehardscrew said:
Fidchell Attano said:
I only keep people I know (And care about) added to my facebook, and twitter is just a bunch of people listening to what I have to say.
So that's where we differ. I mostly have 'friends' I have no clue about and don't really care about on facebook, to amp up the noise-to-signal ratio for what's basically just an exploitative scheme to bombard you with lame, annoying and invasive personalized ads. They also wish to index my friends, so my 'fotos' consists mainly of poorly disguised animal genitalia, food and random, complete strangers that have absolutely nothing to do with my very random list of 'friends'. None of us use their real names on facebook, because that would be plain silly.

Twitter I mostly use to generate a cult following to eventally take over the world - again, more noise, less signal.

OT: Has this significantly changed/degraded into what it is now for you or was it always like this? Have you dropped in ELO lately? Do you play at odd times of day?

Are your teammates random or assembled from invitees that reside on your extensive buddy list?
-Well, I was Silver IV 2 weeks ago, one week later I had one game too many with teammates as I explained about, and I was bumped down to silver V again.

note that I have been switching between Silver IV and V for about 2 months now.

-When I play LoL, I normally do it with friends I know, my buddy list is kind of a moot point.
 

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I think one of the hardest things to swallow, are teammates who do not know what they are doing, and drag the team down as a whole, you try to reason with them, and I mean reason with them, not insult them by suggesting they use this or that, and giving them reasons why they should not be using their current build. It normally ends with being cussed at, called a n00b, or ignored completely without any regard for improvement. These people literally punish you for being nice, and looking past them not having knowledge of what to do about their role/character, it is baffling!
 

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Soloqueue is not a really complicated affair. It's a diceroll, sometimes you get bad teammates, sometimes you get good ones. You used to be able to dodge obviously retarded games, but now you can only do it very rarely, or the LP loss becomes not worth it. Advancing in leagues is a matter of statistics. If you play a LOT of games, you will eventually end up where you belong. Depending on how unlucky you are, it will take you more games to get there. What's certain is that it's pointless to whine when you have less than 300 games this season or so. Bad streaks can last long, you need to play many games to overcome them. Of course, if you are an exceptional player, and by exceptional I mean someone that might as well be doing this for a living, then you will most likely tear through the rankings like nothing. For the truly amazing players, there is no "elo hell". For the mediocre-to-pretty good ones, there is. The only way to overcome it is to play a lot, try to get the role that you are most comfortable at during champ select, try to pick the champions that you are best at etc etc. And try not to rage. The more you rage, the more you lose.
 

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Carnagath said:
Soloqueue is not a really complicated affair. It's a diceroll, sometimes you get bad teammates, sometimes you get good ones. You used to be able to dodge obviously retarded games, but now you can only do it very rarely, or the LP loss becomes not worth it. Advancing in leagues is a matter of statistics. If you play a LOT of games, you will eventually end up where you belong. Depending on how unlucky you are, it will take you more games to get there. What's certain is that it's pointless to whine when you have less than 300 games this season or so. Bad streaks can last long, you need to play many games to overcome them. Of course, if you are an exceptional player, and by exceptional I mean someone that might as well be doing this for a living, then you will most likely tear through the rankings like nothing. For the truly amazing players, there is no "elo hell". For the mediocre-to-pretty good ones, there is. The only way to overcome it is to play a lot, try to get the role that you are most comfortable at during champ select, try to pick the champions that you are best at etc etc. And try not to rage. The more you rage, the more you lose.
You raise a good point, the more I get into these quagmires, the less games I actually play. Alright, I'll give it a shot.