So I just got jumped last night...

[KaizokuouHasu]

I was almost mugged once when I was going home from school with my brother. There was two guys so we were evenly matched in that sense, but we both despise the use of violence; a slight disadvantage.

They wanted us to hand over our mobile phones. We didn't have any at the time. We didn't tell them that obviously (since that would look weak), and just insisted that they were going to get nothing from us. Eventually, I figure, they must have started to feel awkward about not actually getting anything from us despite being all tough-like. They kind of just gave up.

And good times were had by all. <_<

So; how's that for a diplomatic solution?

 

[allmadeup]

A few weeks ago actually. I was in my London flat, putting the bin out, when I spotted a gang on the corner with hoods up and their faces covers. I, stupidly, decided not to go back into my flat right away to finish my fag. They all past by me and walked on, except one who came right up to me and said "What money do you have?" Having just gone out to throw out the rubbish, obviously I didn't have my wallet on me so I told him as much. He then warned me that he had a knife (didn't show it though, I think he might've been lying), so I had to turn out my trouser pockets to prove to him I didn't have my wallet. He then walked off to join his mates, and I promptly finished my fag and headed in.

Having got in, I realised that in my inside jacket pocket I'd had my ipod all along. But, to be fair, he only asked for money; I think it's important to maintain a level of pedantry in a mugging situation...

 

[TacticalAssassin1]

Thanks for the humorous support.

No problem Batman!
But seriously... Don't be down about it! A superhero like you doesn't even need shoes!

I honestly don't know whether or not you're being humorous or a dick. Seems to be more on the dick side..

Nah of course not. Just sayin' it seems like you did pretty well to get out of that situation like you did is all.

 

[Atheist.]

Thanks for the humorous support.

No problem Batman!
But seriously... Don't be down about it! A superhero like you doesn't even need shoes!

I honestly don't know whether or not you're being humorous or a dick. Seems to be more on the dick side..

Nah of course not. Just sayin' it seems like you did pretty well to get out of that situation like you did is all.

Then I'm sorry if I misinterpreted you. Your post just came off a bit offensive to me.

 

[AngelBlackChaos]

I thought I saw someone ask this earlier, and I maybe have missed the response but....why are you on the escapist instead of a hospital to check for injuries? Or sleeping? I got in a fight with 2 girls before, and I just completely crashed from exhaustion after the adrenaline kick died at the emergency room.
Secondly, have you reported this to the police?

Yeah....not going to get that answer, am i?

 

[Pinkamena]

That's just fucked up. I'm glad I live where I do, I have never been mugged, and none of my friends or anyone I know for that matter has either. Also, jumping off a bridge and landing on a train? Best getaway ever.

 

[dashiz94]

20 feet... About 6 meters, right? So, you'd be hitting that train at about... 30 km/h. Ought to break a leg, hitting hard surface you can't even roll on to lessen the impact force.

Twenty feet is definitely doable. I have done it in the past as a teenager. Perhaps I should throw out This Link . Some random drunk dude falling 50 feet, compared to a sober guy jumping 20. Which seems safer?

Sorry, but I simply don't believe that you are judging this right, as do a lot of other people. Cool story as it may be, I can't really believe you fell 5 metres, let alone 6.

Alright, I don't really care. Not trying to be a dick, but this was in a familiar location. I know the bridge height, and I'm not trying to brag. While 20 feet is a decent drop, it's not life threatening. Either you're misinformed, or you're calling me a liar. Either way, you're disrespectful. I wouldn't be an ass to you if you got mugged, why the hell are you doing it to me? Are you seriously such a bad person you'd pick on a crime victim?

1: You obviously care, that's why you responded and feel offended at what I said
2: Saying 'I'm not trying to be a dick' and then saying what you said is like me saying, 'I'm trying not to be violent', and then punching a guy in the face.
3: I just think either you're lying, or your judgement is off, I previously thought the latter, but you sound too defensive, which is a characteristic typical of somebody not being honest
4: And it's not disrespectful to give incorrect information to the escapist community and expect us to believe it? (hypocritical much?)
5: Don't act like you know me, I could have been mugged, you just don't know
6: I lol'd at the sympathy card, "Are you seriously such a bad person you'd pick on a crime victim?", seriously?
Your misguided offense at my only confirms that you yourself are regretting saying that it was a 20 foot drop, but you don't want to change it now because too many people have seen this thread, yep, you're in a sticky situation alright.

1. I don't care what you think. True fact. I care more about my image. It has nothing to do with someone being an asshole to me. Sorry.

2. I was trying to confront you in a friendly manner. Just because you feel offended at the fact that we have conflicting opinions doesn't make me a dick, sorry if you think so.

3. Have you ever been mugged? Raped? Assaulted? If someone doubted your integrity on such a serious matter, you're going to be offended. People saying you're something you're not is something to get defense about, sorry if you don't understand. I'd like to insult you here, but that only damages me. Unless you jest about serious crimes, I think you should back off on this one. Although, if you have no experience with something as serious as this, you have no validity in the first place.

4. Worst statement ever. You straight up are assuming I'm lying, which is beyond offensive and disrespectful. You're seriously insulting someone who was just a victim of a serious crime. Nice one, bud.

5. No way. No fucking way. If you were ever mugged, you would be beyond sympathetic. You seriously have no idea what you're saying, and I seriously suggest you reconsider this post. Attacking someone that was just a crime of a felony is a very poor social choice. I'm not pissed at you because I'm defensive, I'm pissed because you're beyond offending to me.

6. I don't fucking care what you classify me. I am a crime victim, and you're the jerk that's picking on me. I showed you respect, and you attacked me. It doesn't matter if you don't believe me, f' off man. You're not only offending me, but everyone else who has had this happen to them. I don't care how ego strong you are, find something better to do than attack people. You probably don't realize this, but you're seriously upsetting people. I'm not trying to start up some kind of bizarre flame war, I just don't want negativity on the thread I made.

1: You care, otherwise you wouldn't respond, this further enforces the proposition that you are not being honest
2: If that's really what you think, then I don't have anything to say to that.
3: You don't know me, as much as you like to think I'm immune to being the victim of crime,
that isn't the case, and I'm sorry I doubted your integrity on you jumping 20 feet and not injuring yourself seriously, (just keep telling yourself that OP)
4: You continue to be hypocritical and to be dishonest to all of the people here, and fun fact: If a horrible person becomes a victim of a crime, that doesn't necessarily stop them from being horrible people who should be called out when they make mistakes, bud
(also I never said I assumed you were lying, but it now seems obvious.
5: Here's another fun fact: If somebody gets mugged, then they hear a story about a guy who jumped off a bridge, fell 20 feet and landed on a train, they don't suddenly ignore the physical unlikelihood, I'll show sympathy when you learn to be honest with us, and perhaps with yourself
6: "I don't fucking care what you classify me." We both know that's not true.
" I am a crime victim, and you're the jerk that's picking on me." Just saying it how it is bud. "I showed you respect, and you attacked me." If that's what makes you feel better about yourself, then I wouldn't have it any other way. "It doesn't matter if you don't believe me," It sure does to you "f' off man." Nice, good for you. "You're not only offending me, but everyone else who has had this happen to them." Oh God, the army of people who jumped 20 feet and landed on a train are coming to get me! Hey, there's only one guy! "I don't care how ego strong you are, find something better to do than attack people." Your dishonesty is an attack in itself, and I counterattack. "You probably don't realize this, but you're seriously upsetting people." Right back atcha bud, "I'm not trying to start up some kind of bizarre flame war, I just don't want negativity on the thread I made." Yeah, that's why you keep responding, bud

Dude, enough. Stop. Doubting the integrity of this person's story is one thing, but you're coming off as a straight prick right now. Just leave it be.

 

[Pinkamena]

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An Atheist making an extraordinary claim with no evidence and is offended when no one believes it? I gotta love the irony in that. People believe evidence, not word of mouth. Saying I did some Batman level stunt is like saying God spoke to me. disbelief is to be expected with no evidence.

Hehe, I'm an atheist too, don't get me wrong, but even I see the irony in this. I believe your story though, in some way. It doesn't sound completely unlikely, and if you have experience in martial arts, then you have a way better chance of getting away from a situation like this than other people.

 

[The Geek Lord]

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I swear I thought your avatar had boobs for a moment... Come to think of it, why the flying fuck does everyone have pony avatars suddenly?

no, i haven't been mugged before. though i have been approached by individuals on 2 seperate occations that vocally expressed intentions to behave in such a manner. in both situations however, upon entering my proximity, they had a sudden mysterious change of heart and left me alone.

Maybe your life is about to become a TV show or anime. Or you might have a very large, intimidating stalker. Turn around one day and high five them.

On topic, maybe you should learn Jarate I first have to say that you are awesome and the Escapist should make a badge for you. Next I have to say that I haven't really ever been mugged, which is surprising considering how much electronic shit (PSP, iPod, phone that I never use, etc.) I carry around with me to and from school. Maybe it's the whole "being 6'4" and looking very pissed off a lot" thing.

Still, I have to say that I don't get why you'd mug random people on the street. In order to do so you either have to be an incredibly pathetic lowlife (when confronted with this fact they'll probably respond with something unintelligible and stupid like "YUU DUZNT NO ME YUU KANT JUDJ!!111"), bat shit crazy ("gimme your wallet or the Lovecraftian squid that lives in my head will eat me"), or incredibly desperate.

 

[Timmibal]

Hehe, I'm an atheist too, don't get me wrong, but even I see the irony in this. I believe your story though, in some way. It doesn't sound completely unlikely, and if you have experience in martial arts, then you have a way better chance of getting away from a situation like this than other people.

Really? Jumping 30 feet onto a moving train and then walking away... 4 miles away... doesn't sound completely unlikely REGARDLESS of the fact that 5 guys were just apparently wailing on him.

Interested in a guaranteed investment opportunity? I just need $500 for admin fees.

 

[Gabriela D.]

Mugging? No. But some bum with a lot of cash mistook me for a prostitute once.

When I politely refused, he tried to kiss me. Luckily, I had a paper bag from the pretzel I was eating and stuffed it in his mouth. He then pushed me to the ground and when he tried to jump me, I kicked him in the stomach. I got up and instinctively put my fists up. Then he ran. I called him ugly.

Now that I think about it, it all seems so strange. Because
1. I was taking Kendo classes, not boxing/kickboxing.
2. I was definitely angry that he got my jacket muddy.
3. I was more amused than afraid by his attempt.
4. My mind had never been clearer than in that moment.

Can someone please explain to me the last two ones? But especially number 3. I have been thinking of such scenarios before, but I thought I would be feeling anger mixed with fear.

Also, dude! That is wack. I live in a relatively safe area, but shit still happens; and I have never heard of someone being mugged for his shoes. Is that common in the States? Were they your favourite pair? If so, you have my sympathies. I love my shoes.

 

[NLS]

Well, back in Bolivia people sometimes get shot during cell phone robberies.

 

[Atheist.]

I was walking home last night and saw a group of people that approached me. They literally stole my shoes and were about to steal my wallet and throw me off this bridge. I got out of their control and managed to jump off it and land on a train.

How fucked up are the times we live in that random people seriously attempt to kill someone for shoes and a damn wallet?

Has anyone else had an experience being mugged, or attempted mugging? I'm fairly proficient in Krav Maga. But taking on five people at once is quite difficult. I managed to submit the big guy, but some other dude repeatedly punched me in the head until I retreated.

I jumped off a 30 foot bridge, on to a train, so about a 20 foot drop. Jumped off, and walked home 4 miles in my socks. Sorry for the profanity, but I seriously think this is messed up.

...yes, this is messed up! You took a bunch of blows to the head, jumped off a 30 foot bridge, fell about 20 feet landed on a train and just walked home. I don't care what speed the train was moving, you fell 20 feet! Are you an X-men? All and all:

Spoiler

OT: Well, I've never been mugged or gotten into a real world fight. Though when the day comes...I will probably get my ass kicked after putting up a decent fight. Well, if I'm by myself. If my family or friends are around, in danger as well...I will push some unlucky bastards shit in and tear them a new asshole!

Thanks for the disrespect. I suppose I slowly walked/limped home. My bad. I didn't get hit too many times in the head, I blocked most of it. I still took a few good ones. If you've never been in a real fight, why are you criticising me? I just feel like you're being an asshole by basically calling me a liar, when I came here for support. That's fucked up dude.

If you're ignorant enough not to believe me, just don't entertain my thread, because you're seriously unintentionally offended. But think about it, a twenty foot drop isn't as much as you think. Especially if you're experienced in high jumps.

You mean to say you were in any condition to walk after hitting a train after a thirty foot drop?

Thirty from the ground, about 19ish from the train. That eleven feet of acceleration would have made it a lot worse.

An Atheist making an extraordinary claim with no evidence and is offended when no one believes it? I gotta love the irony in that. People believe evidence, not word of mouth. Saying I did some Batman level stunt is like saying God spoke to me. disbelief is to be expected with no evidence.

Real fights are not like Batman fights. Biologically, the brain can't handle something that quick. By the time you realized an escape route other than run you would already by unconscious from the hits. Blocking hits is impossible with real muggers due to weaponry. You can't block a baseball bat, a knife, or bullet at point blank. No mugger would go in bare handed and even if there were multiple muggers they would have over powered any block attempt through sheer force. Stealing shoes? No one would go for shoes when money is on the person. A real mugger group would have knocked anyone out by the time the brain chose to jump on the train.

As I said before, I'm not trying to persuade anyone to believe me. This is not an argument. To me, it is a matter of fact. I'm simply trying to display my experience and perhaps see reactions from people who have had similar ones. Being a dick to me honestly has no affect. I've already said before, I could not give a shit less if your ass does not believe me. You're seriously just promoting hostility at this point. Biologically you have no idea what you're talking about. My martial artist master can apparently be Batman.

You're wrong. People can realize things from everything from logic to instinct, to a scared reaction. Also, transcribing an event is apparently extraordinary? Yes, I'm a hypocrite for telling the truth. Sorry guys. My bad. Get real, dude.

I guess we can no longer believe any news source that doesn't have a video feed. Although... Even then it could be photoshopped!!! Shit! What ever will we do for news now. We can't even believe our eyes. Honestly, as said before, I'm not trying to hate. You are simply wrong. Every news article is written by a single person. Every book is too. Most online videos are also from a single person. You disbelieve me, and you set the merit for them all. I agree some are wrong, but the way you put your argument, we all are.

Also, not trying to discredit you, but have you honestly been in a fight? I hate to say how wrong the information you just spouted is, but it's true. You appear to have no idea what you're talking about.

Actually yes, multiple fights over the years which includes weapons. Your story is so full of holes it could pass as swiss cheese. Passenger train? People would have been there. Freight Train? People would have been there. Both instances mean you would have never had to walk home. Even then, how did you get off? A train station has people there. How did you get off without anyone noticing? If you jumped off in motion, the force of the tumble would have killed you if the train didn't suck you under it. At the station, you could have asked for a phone and never had to walk home or any nearby store unless it was the dead of night. However, if the train is still running then its destination must still have people there.

Then, real muggers use weapons. Regular Kevlar can't even protect against a knife, and a baseball bat is a one hit weapon. Once you're hit with a baseball bat by a real mugger, you're down for the count from the force. Guns? At point blank you can't dodge that. A group of muggers? They would have over powered you by force. Training? All that training goes out the window unless you expect it. Muggers go by surprise, not by walking out like a 18th century rifleman battalion.

The human brain takes time to come to terms to what its seeing in an unexpected event, especially when its under fire. Being blindsided is unexpected, and would take precious seconds you don't have to think of a way to get out of it. Since you took out one guy without that standard reaction time, your story is questionable due to scientific evidence of the brain. This is the same method used to tell if someone expected something or not. Muggers go for money, I never heard any case that involved shoes being taken in a normal mugging. Taking someone's shoes is normally done to tourists who hide their cash in their shoes. Even then, the practice is normally done in third world countries or in severely destitute areas.

Timmibal covered the rest. You're story is full of holes, and you make no other rebuttal other than "you're wrong." Again, no evidence while I point out the holes in the story. If you try to tell us what happened, details are needed beyond the basics especially if its extraordinary. Otherwise, it sounds like something out of a Batman comic.

I made an attempt to read through your post kid. I really did. You are seriously misinformed. You honestly have no idea what happens in industrial trains. Don't claim you do, because you clearly just portrayed you don't. Do I need to prove my martial arts to you? Do we need to prove the degree that "we do?" I'm in a Krav Maga group and most of us can hold our own. Not being hostile, but being ignorant is beyond painful. You're so full of holes my noes can blow a hole though it. A whole so big, you'll miss tomorrow. Back off.

 

[Pinkamena]

Hehe, I'm an atheist too, don't get me wrong, but even I see the irony in this. I believe your story though, in some way. It doesn't sound completely unlikely, and if you have experience in martial arts, then you have a way better chance of getting away from a situation like this than other people.

Really? Jumping 30 feet onto a moving train and then walking away... 4 miles away... doesn't sound completely unlikely REGARDLESS of the fact that 5 guys were just apparently wailing on him.

Landing 30 feet, ok, that's unlikely. He probably thought it was that tall, when in reality it might've been much shorter. And I don't think he said the train was moving. And walking 4 miles really is a (no pun intended) walk in the park.
Interested in a guaranteed investment opportunity? I just need $500 for admin fees.

 

[Crazycat690]

Well, I live in Finland and we don't have a lot of criminal activity here atleast. But appearently even if criminal activity is low, it's still going to happen bad things sometimes to someone, you might just be very unlucky? Whatever it was, you shouldn't let the experience beat you.

However, if all that really did happen, I say you are awesome and should take up figthing crime as a masked hero rescuing damsels in distress. You get to wear a cape and everything, although I suggest that you skip the cape, those things are dangerous.

 

[sheah1]

That's actually pretty incredible. Everybody I know that's been mugged by more than one person has basically had everything taken and gotten the shit kicked out of them. Good on you for escaping without that happening.

I've only been threatened for my things once. I guy approached me behind my workplace and demanded my wallet while holding a small knife. Carrying a knife myself (for work purposes) I was debating pulling it and attempting to defend myself that way but then I remembered something I'd seen in a movie. I calmly pulled out my wallet and repeated things like "Okay buddy, I don't want any trouble." Placed the wallet on the ground and when he stooped to pick it up I kicked him in the teeth with my steel-toed boots and basically started to shoe-fuck his face while shouting for my coworkers to call the police. I had to stay late until they arrived to give a statement but they said I could have handled the situation better.

Sorry I was in the mindset that if somebody threatens me with a weapon I have the right to kick them in the teeth. My bad.

Holy shit now I know how to handle thugs. Also you were awesome, the reaction of the police was bullshit, you obviously had every right to do what you did.

 

[GrimHeaper]

People are innocent unless proven guilty. Sadly this is the way America has gone.

Yes. People are innocent until proven otherwise.

That you so vehemently assert some "witch state" ideal tells me you've never been accused of or had a loved one accused of a crime. One doesn't get to point a finger and have another treated like a criminal. Or would you rather someone, say for example, call you a rapist and have you treated as such until you can prove otherwise? No. That's insane. Maybe I'll accuse my next door neighbor of trying to kill me next week -- I'd enjoy the driveway space while they're off in prison proving they're whereabouts and being beaten for a confession.

There's a reason innocence is assumed until proven otherwise -- hint: witch burnings.

Are we as a species not beyond that yet? Really? Alright, I'll get the torches.

Hear hear Snowy!

I don't know what your deal is, but you're seriously misquoting my intentions. I am simply saying people are persecuted for things before being proven they are wrong! If you read the thread about my younger brother from a few weeks ago, I think you would have a better image. You are beyond misinterpreting my opinion. Perhaps you need to re-evaluate your opinion, because we're basically agreeing with one another.

Well at least OP can admit I shouldn't be agreeing with him.
And you said you wouldn't respond back, I guess this, as well as your '20 foot drop onto a train' show the honesty in your words.

20 feet isn't that far down...
http://www.cracked.com/article/145_the-7-most-insane-things-people-have-done-while-sleepwalking_p2/
You underestimate the human ability.

 

[Deguasser]

I was walking home last night and saw a group of people that approached me. They literally stole my shoes and were about to steal my wallet and throw me off this bridge. I got out of their control and managed to jump off it and land on a train.

How fucked up are the times we live in that random people seriously attempt to kill someone for shoes and a damn wallet?

Has anyone else had an experience being mugged, or attempted mugging? I'm fairly proficient in Krav Maga. But taking on five people at once is quite difficult. I managed to submit the big guy, but some other dude repeatedly punched me in the head until I retreated.

I jumped off a 30 foot bridge, on to a train, so about a 20 foot drop. Jumped off, and walked home 4 miles in my socks. Sorry for the profanity, but I seriously think this is messed up.

I work at a pharmacy, a guy got mugged across the street, 4 people beat him up, broke 1 of his arms, and 1 of his legs, and he was cut really bad, he came into the store to call the cops, and then he sat there and cried, all I could do was try and comfort him.

 

[Kenko]

I avoid large groups at all costs at night, i'm not Batman, but I could be compared to Garret from Thief. I could've been mugged once, this group came around a corner and spotted me so I slipped into a side-street into an apartment area, just as I went around the corner I bolted and hid myself beneath a balcony behind some bushes in complete shadows and waited. Shortly thereafter they came running around the corner looking around for me. Arabic youth looking for Swedish targets as always, racist punks.

 

[Mad World]

Holy shit now I know how to handle thugs. Also you were awesome, the reaction of the police was bullshit, you obviously had every right to do what you did.

Depends on how long he continued to kick the assailant for. It's called using more force than necessary. If the man is already down and he continues to kick him in the face over and over again for a long period of time, then that is using too much force.

I live in Canada (apparently, so does TheLoneBeet), and that's one of our rules regarding self-defence. I assume that the U.S. is relatively the same.