So I just got jumped last night...

[Atheist.]

People are innocent unless proven guilty. Sadly this is the way America has gone.

Yes. People are innocent until proven otherwise.

That you so vehemently assert some "witch state" ideal tells me you've never been accused of or had a loved one accused of a crime. One doesn't get to point a finger and have another treated like a criminal. Or would you rather someone, say for example, call you a rapist and have you treated as such until you can prove otherwise? No. That's insane. Maybe I'll accuse my next door neighbor of trying to kill me next week -- I'd enjoy the driveway space while they're off in prison proving they're whereabouts and being beaten for a confession.

There's a reason innocence is assumed until proven otherwise -- hint: witch burnings.

Are we as a species not beyond that yet? Really? Alright, I'll get the torches.

Hear hear Snowy!

I don't know what your deal is, but you're seriously misquoting my intentions. I am simply saying people are persecuted for things before being proven they are wrong! If you read the thread about my younger brother from a few weeks ago, I think you would have a better image. You are beyond misinterpreting my opinion. Perhaps you need to re-evaluate your opinion, because we're basically agreeing with one another.

Well at least OP can admit I shouldn't be agreeing with him.
And you said you wouldn't respond back, I guess this, as well as your '20 foot drop onto a train' show the honesty in your words.

Alright, bye.

To the prior, the train wasn't moving too fast. I'd say about 10ish miles per hour, as it was nearing a station. I sustained a fair amount of muscular stress to my calves, almost all of my arm muscles, some chest muscle strain, and my back isn't quite happy right now. Luckily nothing was broken, but I feel like I got hit by that train today. Not exactly fun. Plus walking home in my socks basically made my feet somewhat raw. Unpleasant.

And you say you walked 4 miles after that? Was it really 4 miles or did it just FEEL like 4 miles due to injuries and shoelessness? If it was considerably less than 4 miles, but felt like it, I could believe your story. As it
You know, you're probably right. It stands now, I am highly skeptical.

took me an hour so I assumed 4 miles, but I suppose 2.5-3ish is probably closer. It still took me over an hour and my socks basically wore off, at that point. Granted I was almost limping at that point.

I don't mean to pick on you, but you're still pushing what I can believe. It takes me about an hour to walk just one mile when I'm perfectly healthy, uninjured, and wearing sensible shoes. Admittedly I'm not athletic, but I can walk a mile easily. I find it difficult to believe that you, even with training in martial arts, can walk even 2 miles in an hour after sustaining injuries from a fight, a fall/jump, and not wearing shoes.

I usually walk around 4 miles in an hour, and that's a moderate speed. I think you're measuring your distance wrong, or converting incorrectly (If you're from Europe.) A fast "I'm going to die" walk covering just under three miles is perfectly acceptable. Even with injuries. Otherwise I don't know how to explain. That's seriously my rate of movement.

To the others, I severely incorrectly spelled on my OP. I meant to say people are guilty until proven innocent. I've gotten a lot of flack for this. Sorry for this.

 

[nitat]

I learned recently that my uncle is the biggest badass ever.
I shit you not, he was walking out of a bar, and a guy stabbed him, and he took the knife out, and stabbed him back.
If you don't believe me, fine, but you are wrong.

congratulations,

your uncle is now entitled for the "granite balls" medal.

 

[Tim Mazzola]

That's horrible! But dude, just be thankful you got away with your wallet, your life and your... pride.

Also you get to tell your friends you jumped off a bridge and onto a train. You will be badass forever.

Personally, I have never been "jumped" exactly. That is, my assailant wasn't after my life or my possessions. Fortunately for me however, my assailant was also very frail, slow and unarmed. I've had friends who were jumped though. One of my best friends lost his DS that way. They almost took his iPod but his neighbor intervened. He just kneeled down and thanked God that his Pokemon Pearl wasn't in that DS. He has every single Pokemon up until that generation and lots of great teams, and if he lost it there, he'd have felt like he wasted 500 hours of his life D:

But ya, no jumping off of bridges and onto trains in either of our cases. I'm used to city life, so I'm used to taking measures to avoid getting attacked, like always having other people with me, or always looking like I'M the one who should be doing the jumping (causes social awkwardness but it works.)

 

[William Ossiss]

Spoiler

seriously, go get a costume. work yourself to your physical peak, and kick some major arse. also, take up running. my golden rule: if all else fails, run like hell in the opposite direction.


OP: nope. never. paranoia has always placed a staff like weapon near hand. it's a good thing.

 

[Drunkern_Hobo]

Ya got jumped ey?....how's your ass?

 

[DigitalAtlas]

Talents years of video games reward: Fast reflexes, good hand-eye coordination, epic problem skills, the ability to discern a paragon choice from a renegade action, and, apparently, the talents of Batman.

And FOX News wishes to wipe us off the face of the Earth. Pfft.

 

[Whateveralot]

I nearly got mugged once in broad daylight on a shopping street :S Some guys just came up to me and felt my pockets just "asking for a smoke". I was amazed by their stupidity so I couldn't do anything for the first few seconds. Then I realised they were idiots and I just walked on. If they were to follow me, I'd get the police. Not sure if that's an actual mugging or the worst pickpocketers ever.

I like the story. You are still quite lucky to get away with it like that, just a waste of shoes :S.

I'm a pretty fast runner so I guess that that's what I would've done.

 

[Brightzide]

Ive been jumped 3 times. None quite that spectacular, but I do believe you dude, well handled. First time, was in Highschool. A guy in my class wasnt particularly fond of me, and hired 3 of his cousins to come into the school grounds and pound my brains in...they did. Not cool.

Time no.2 . On my way home from Highschool, 10 kids from rival highschool run up and start wailing on me and stamp me to bits. Im hospitalised for a few days, have a broken arm, nose, jaw and ankle. Also not cool, never understood the whole juvenile rival school bollocks.

And 3. On my way to town to meet my friends, go the pub and have a good night. 3 about 40 year old men ( completely drunk ) come out of a pub I passed, accuse me of disrespecting them and stamp me to infinity against a road barrier after one of them whacks me o nthe head with a bottle...Bottles dont break like in the movies too. Thats how I learnt that little fact

Now if you count attempted muggings. I believe that number is now around 15. With only 4 being successful.

I really hate Manchester.

 

[Seventh Actuality]

I was walking home last night and saw a group of people that approached me. They literally stole my shoes and were about to steal my wallet and throw me off this bridge. I got out of their control and managed to jump off it and land on a train.

How fucked up are the times we live in that random people seriously attempt to kill someone for shoes and a damn wallet?

Has anyone else had an experience being mugged, or attempted mugging? I'm fairly proficient in Krav Maga. But taking on five people at once is quite difficult. I managed to submit the big guy, but some other dude repeatedly punched me in the head until I retreated.

I jumped off a 30 foot bridge, on to a train, so about a 20 foot drop. Jumped off, and walked home 4 miles in my socks. Sorry for the profanity, but I seriously think this is messed up.

It's nothing to do with the times we live in, and if it's a group of people it's probably nothing to do with them actually wanting your shit. They were just dickheads looking for violent kicks.

Kudos for getting the better of them, though.

 

[Appleshampoo]

I can't help but be sceptical too. You say you take know Krav Maga? Isn't that the one fighting style pretty much made to brutally end a fight as quickly as possible, and it specialises in multiple opponents? And you happen to know some free running too, since you can survive a pretty large fall with no shoes on.

My question is this - Why didn't you just beat them down, then do some free running flips to victory?

I assumed this was coming up. Fighting with no weapons against a group of five people is difficult no matter what you are trained in. Especially considering one person is 6'5 270 pounds, and another is slightly under this. Take into consideration I'm a 180 lb 5'11-6'0 male.

I managed to take down the big guy before getting straight up rushed. I in no way claim i'm some Krav Maga master. I've simply studied it for a while under an instructor. Like I said before, if I had only been facing two or MAYBE three, I would have been off fine. But five people who essentially circled me is nothing to scoff at. Ask anyone sufficient in most martial arts how plausible this situation is for the minority.

Fair enough, you sold me on the fight, but the train thing is just too hard fetched, although freakin' awesome.

/high five on taking out the big guy though =D

 

[Atheist.]

Ive been jumped 3 times. None quite that spectacular, but I do believe you dude, well handled. First time, was in Highschool. A guy in my class wasnt particularly fond of me, and hired 3 of his cousins to come into the school grounds and pound my brains in...they did. Not cool.

Time no.2 . On my way home from Highschool, 10 kids from rival highschool run up and start wailing on me and stamp me to bits. Im hospitalised for a few days, have a broken arm, nose, jaw and ankle. Also not cool, never understood the whole juvenile rival school bollocks.

And 3. On my way to town to meet my friends, go the pub and have a good night. 3 about 40 year old men ( completely drunk ) come out of a pub I passed, accuse me of disrespecting them and stamp me to infinity against a road barrier after one of them whacks me o nthe head with a bottle...Bottles dont break like in the movies too. Thats how I learnt that little fact

Now if you count attempted muggings. I believe that number is now around 15. With only 4 being successful.

I really hate Manchester.

Shit I feel worse for you than me right now. Even though it hurts to bloody move at this point. Not to mention the bruises. Bud Kudos on you for on winning/getting away from 11 out of 15, that's respectable.

 

[FunGuy155]

My sister's bf was in Malaysia and some guys tried to mug him. The key word being try. Apparently he was wearing Levi's Jeans and the pockets were so tight, those guys were unable to steal his wallet and ran away., probably to avoid him recognizing them and going to the police. So here's a word of advice, when mugged, make sure you have a pen knife so that it counts as self defense. Or wear Levi's. That works too.

 

[AngelBlackChaos]

I thought I saw someone ask this earlier, and I maybe have missed the response but....why are you on the escapist instead of a hospital to check for injuries? Or sleeping? I got in a fight with 2 girls before, and I just completely crashed from exhaustion after the adrenaline kick died at the emergency room.
Secondly, have you reported this to the police?

 

[GeneralDefiance]

hope you get better soon bud, that jump sounded more intense than the beating did but you held your own so good for you.


ive been jumped a few times, and in scotland (as well as the rest of britain) weve got really bad rising knife crimes. ive had bottles smashed over my head, pinned against walls at knife point , ganged up on and had junkies pull needles on me.sometimes at work..its not funny at all. every time ive been alone and every time ive managed to fight back and not lose a thing (not a brag, just a fact) but thts not an option for everyone you should just try and get your ass out of dodge, double quick.

 

[ELD3RGoD]

Me and my best mate got sorrounded by 14 chavs (I live in England.) Always have my brother on speed dial when I go out at night around these parts, quick call to him, he knew where I was so it was soon 3 on 14. My brother literally laid one hit on the 'leader' and he fell like a sack of shit. I laid out one dude, broke another guys nose before getting elbowed in the temple. My best mate was fending off 3 of them, knocking a few teeth out and by this time I had fallen unconscious from 5 dudes kicking me in the head on the ground.

I was apparently unconscious for 10-15 minutes and about 30 people were trying to bring me around. When I came to, In my head I was fine, but apparently, I couldn't control any of my actions and I couldn't remember my name or where I was or anything, people were seriously worried. I Gave a statement to the police after I healed up and guess what? The police believed the 14 chavs over us. They said i'd started it and had hit one of them for no reason. Blatent bullshit, the police believed it, never even got to court. THAT is how fucked up the justice system is.

OT: Atleast your safe dude, hope everything gets sorted.

 

[Timmibal]

Right, so let's start this diagnosis.

You're older than 16. So we won't dismiss this out of hand.

You say you train in Krav Maga, a martial art which specializes in PREEMPTIVE defense. Meaning that you would have been thinking about potential risks as soon as you saw the group. Through whatever fucking sorcery, they managed to take your shoes from you and were then planning to take your wallet and... Commit first degree murder by throwing you off a bridge? Are you fucking serious? Not to mention, how did you know that they were planning on throwing you off the bridge? Did they cackle maniacally and twirl their fucking moustaches while monologuing?

Then you mention that you subdued the biggest of the group (cataloguing size subconsciously, risk factor is not deliniated by size, any martial artist worth his salt will tell you that.) but were forced to 'retreat' due to the volume of blunt force trauma being rained down upon your head and face... And again, you're supposedly trained in Krav Maga, which specializes in particularly brutal methods of neutralizing opponents and you've got this guy in a submission hold? You sure you're not spelling 'backyard wrestling' wrong?

Then in your next post, you say you're a freerunner, a discipline which requires an immense amount of physical agility and stamina, and you couldn't outrun them without channelling Bruce fucking Willis and jumping 30 feet (An act which I am assured by very credible sources will almost surely result in broken bones unless done into water) onto...

...A moving train... OK, that's it, heard enough. Lemme guess, then you had to walk home 4 miles without shoes and...

...Oh fuck you're actually saying that too!

People, if you honestly believe this, I'd like to inform you that I am in fact Jesus Christ, and I'd like to tell you about a Nigerian Princess who only needs a small transfer fee to send you a portion of her vast wealth. Also you've won the UK lottery. Also I have the title to a bridge I'd like to sell you at a very good price. Also the word 'Gullible' has been removed from the dictionary.

Get the picture?

 

[karloss01]

attempted mugging twice for me. first when i was 14 and walking through town from a friend's house some guy approached me and tried to get money off me when (i shit you not) a group of black guys who were out clubbing came from behind and asked "is there a problem here?"

after i said yes, the mugger wasn't standing for long.

second time i was walking through a shortcut on my way home from college when a guy came out and pointed a gun at me and asked me for my wallet. now i was bullied quite a lot back in high school until i snapped and took the biggest bully in the school down, this left me a bit stubborn.

so when he asked for my wallet he got a polite "Fuck you" response which he then grabbed me by my shirt whilest i grabbed him by his gun hand and through my head into his nose. left him unconscious with a blooded nose after i found out the gun was fake, some airsoft replica.

with my personality i'm sure i'll be killed by a mugger because i won't give them them anything other then broken bones.

EDIT: though to be honest now unless in a group, i doubt anyone would try to mug me when i'm 6.5 and always look like i'm going to kill someone.

 

[TacticalAssassin1]

Thanks for the humorous support.

No problem Batman!
But seriously... Don't be down about it! A superhero like you doesn't even need shoes!

 

[Atheist.]

I was walking home last night and saw a group of people that approached me. They literally stole my shoes and were about to steal my wallet and throw me off this bridge. I got out of their control and managed to jump off it and land on a train.

How fucked up are the times we live in that random people seriously attempt to kill someone for shoes and a damn wallet?

Has anyone else had an experience being mugged, or attempted mugging? I'm fairly proficient in Krav Maga. But taking on five people at once is quite difficult. I managed to submit the big guy, but some other dude repeatedly punched me in the head until I retreated.

I jumped off a 30 foot bridge, on to a train, so about a 20 foot drop. Jumped off, and walked home 4 miles in my socks. Sorry for the profanity, but I seriously think this is messed up.

...yes, this is messed up! You took a bunch of blows to the head, jumped off a 30 foot bridge, fell about 20 feet landed on a train and just walked home. I don't care what speed the train was moving, you fell 20 feet! Are you an X-men? All and all:

Spoiler

OT: Well, I've never been mugged or gotten into a real world fight. Though when the day comes...I will probably get my ass kicked after putting up a decent fight. Well, if I'm by myself. If my family or friends are around, in danger as well...I will push some unlucky bastards shit in and tear them a new asshole!

Thanks for the disrespect. I suppose I slowly walked/limped home. My bad. I didn't get hit too many times in the head, I blocked most of it. I still took a few good ones. If you've never been in a real fight, why are you criticising me? I just feel like you're being an asshole by basically calling me a liar, when I came here for support. That's fucked up dude.

If you're ignorant enough not to believe me, just don't entertain my thread, because you're seriously unintentionally offended. But think about it, a twenty foot drop isn't as much as you think. Especially if you're experienced in high jumps.

You mean to say you were in any condition to walk after hitting a train after a thirty foot drop?

Thirty from the ground, about 19ish from the train. That eleven feet of acceleration would have made it a lot worse.

An Atheist making an extraordinary claim with no evidence and is offended when no one believes it? I gotta love the irony in that. People believe evidence, not word of mouth. Saying I did some Batman level stunt is like saying God spoke to me. disbelief is to be expected with no evidence.

Real fights are not like Batman fights. Biologically, the brain can't handle something that quick. By the time you realized an escape route other than run you would already by unconscious from the hits. Blocking hits is impossible with real muggers due to weaponry. You can't block a baseball bat, a knife, or bullet at point blank. No mugger would go in bare handed and even if there were multiple muggers they would have over powered any block attempt through sheer force. Stealing shoes? No one would go for shoes when money is on the person. A real mugger group would have knocked anyone out by the time the brain chose to jump on the train.

As I said before, I'm not trying to persuade anyone to believe me. This is not an argument. To me, it is a matter of fact. I'm simply trying to display my experience and perhaps see reactions from people who have had similar ones. Being a dick to me honestly has no affect. I've already said before, I could not give a shit less if your ass does not believe me. You're seriously just promoting hostility at this point. Biologically you have no idea what you're talking about. My martial artist master can apparently be Batman.

You're wrong. People can realize things from everything from logic to instinct, to a scared reaction. Also, transcribing an event is apparently extraordinary? Yes, I'm a hypocrite for telling the truth. Sorry guys. My bad. Get real, dude.

I guess we can no longer believe any news source that doesn't have a video feed. Although... Even then it could be photoshopped!!! Shit! What ever will we do for news now. We can't even believe our eyes. Honestly, as said before, I'm not trying to hate. You are simply wrong. Every news article is written by a single person. Every book is too. Most online videos are also from a single person. You disbelieve me, and you set the merit for them all. I agree some are wrong, but the way you put your argument, we all are.

Also, not trying to discredit you, but have you honestly been in a fight? I hate to say how wrong the information you just spouted is, but it's true. You appear to have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[TacticalAssassin1]

Guess what? The police believed the 14 chavs over us. They said i'd started it and had hit one of them for no reason. Blatent bullshit, the police believed it, never even got to court. THAT is how fucked up the justice system is.

OT: Atleast your safe dude, hope everything gets sorted.

So... What happened to you? Did you get in trouble?