So I play games, read comics, and the like so this by defualt makes me a man child that is immature

[Remus]

Hobbies are hobbies. If your family looks down on you for playing videogames even though you are an otherwise well-adjusted individual with an honest job, well, too bad for them. At some point you realize that if you try to live up to others' expectations, they'll never be satisfied and neither will you. So don't try. I justify my MMO playing in much the same way as others here - with as much time as I spend playing WoW or whatever flavor of the year, it cumulatively comes out far cheaper than going to a movie every week or renting/buying DVDs. As for comics, look at it as an investment into your future retirement. When you're too old to work you can sell them and retire on a private island.

 

[Kolby Jack]

/thread

There's nothing wrong with desiring to appear responsible and adult. It's an admirable goal and usually leads to good life decisions. Our "selves" are shaped in large part during our childhoods, and then reigned in by experience and empathy. Aside from a lack of those two things, there is no true "mark of childhood and adolescence." There is pettiness, and that should be avoided, but to attribute pettiness with childhood is at best a half-truth since many adults also engage in acts of pettiness. It's a social thing. A human thing. Not a childish thing.

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Also some interesting music


NO!

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Hmmm. Yea, I see what I've done now. Arguing philosophy seemed like a good idea, but now there's just a bunch more people posting and saying the same message that's already been repeated several times in this topic. Honestly, with all the time I've spent on the internet, I feel like I should've known better.

Also: Is good song.

 

[Darks63]

Sounds like you need to find a new group of friends who share your interests, rather than this group whom gave in to societal pressure and are mad that you didn't.

 

[The Ubermensch]

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I'm pretty sure they explicitly say doing this doesn't actually get you past the low-content rules.

Yup, and I got done for it. Still I thought that would be appropriate /thread.

Hmmm. Yea, I see what I've done now. Arguing philosophy seemed like a good idea, but now there's just a bunch more people posting and saying the same message that's already been repeated several times in this topic. Honestly, with all the time I've spent on the internet, I feel like I should've known better.

Also: Is good song.

Oh, stop being passive aggressive, it was a joke, and one that I paid for. But I do disregard your opinion

> There's nothing wrong with desiring to appear responsible and adult. It's an admirable goal and usually leads to good life decisions. Our "selves" are shaped in large part during our childhoods, and then reigned in by experience and empathy. Aside from a lack of those two things, there is no true "mark of childhood and adolescence." There is pettiness, and that should be avoided, but to attribute pettiness with childhood is at best a half-truth since many adults also engage in acts of pettiness. It's a social thing. A human thing. Not a childish thing.

When we say "I want to be an adult" we're aspiring to a social construct. We are dehumanising ourselves in a way, assimilating into the social structure and accepting our role as drones. I aspire to my own, self constructed ideal and don't much care about whether or not my ideal fits into societies cohort of adult or child, I don't care about how others see me and are wary of those who seek approval in others. Saying someone is childish or adult is just another way of cohorting people, aspiring to be adult is dehumanising yourself.

 

[Scarim Coral]

Those people just have the old mindset that those stuff are still for children when these days it is clearly not! I mean there are adult graphic novel/ comic books and there are those collectable figures who are aim for the adult buyers. Beside most comicbook writer/ drawers or those in gaming media tend to have figures. All in all just take pride at who you are and stand up for yourself!

I have a similar experience (my parent thing cartoon are still for kids) althought my is more on the antisocial side (my family think my lack of range of friends and not attention in social gathering means no lifes).

 

[Harley Q]

Listen, my uncle is a biomedical scientist and has the biggest Dr Who collection I have ever seen. Also he bought me my first lightsaber

Anyway, he worked nightshift and put himself through University. He invested a lot of his money into diecast figurines and such. He does own every single episode and movie ever made. Everyone would go on about how he was creepy and a huge man child. Blah blah blah. He had a girlfriend leave him when she saw his Dr Who room. single guy in a three bedroom house, frankly I think it's logical to put everything in the one place

Anywaaaaaaaaaaay, so after constantly being treated like a tool by everyone, he comes out of uni, has a job, pays off all his student loans, buys a house and then found someone who loved him even though he has a replica K-9 and a cyberman cookie jar.

What is for you, won't go past you. Screw everyone else. You do not need to conform to social norms that are frankly, out dated and offensive.

CAPTCHA- I like you!

 

[AlbertoDeSanta]

I think it's more your so called 'friends' that are immature. If you enjoy something, why not spend money on it? Being over the age of 21 doesn't automatically require you to drop all your hobbies and work to the bone for 40 years. It's people that say you need to stop doing it that are truly childish. Avoid those people as much as possible, your social life will thank you for it.

 

[Kolby Jack]

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I'm pretty sure they explicitly say doing this doesn't actually get you past the low-content rules.

Yup, and I got done for it. Still I thought that would be appropriate /thread.

Hmmm. Yea, I see what I've done now. Arguing philosophy seemed like a good idea, but now there's just a bunch more people posting and saying the same message that's already been repeated several times in this topic. Honestly, with all the time I've spent on the internet, I feel like I should've known better.

Also: Is good song.

Oh, stop being passive aggressive, it was a joke, and one that I paid for. But I do disregard your opinion

> There's nothing wrong with desiring to appear responsible and adult. It's an admirable goal and usually leads to good life decisions. Our "selves" are shaped in large part during our childhoods, and then reigned in by experience and empathy. Aside from a lack of those two things, there is no true "mark of childhood and adolescence." There is pettiness, and that should be avoided, but to attribute pettiness with childhood is at best a half-truth since many adults also engage in acts of pettiness. It's a social thing. A human thing. Not a childish thing.

When we say "I want to be an adult" we're aspiring to a social construct. We are dehumanising ourselves in a way, assimilating into the social structure and accepting our role as drones. I aspire to my own, self constructed ideal and don't much care about whether or not my ideal fits into societies cohort of adult or child, I don't care about how others see me and are wary of those who seek approval in others. Saying someone is childish or adult is just another way of cohorting people, aspiring to be adult is dehumanising yourself.

I was being sincere. Responding to your post bumped this thread after it had already fallen off the front page mostly addressed, and now a bunch of other people are coming in to say things that for the most part have already been said.

As for the rest, I too think that being what you want to be without caring what others think is a good thing, though I think my view of society is not as cynical as yours. Society exists for a reason. Being a part of it doesn't make you a drone; most people do care what certain other people think of them, but they aren't slaves to those ideas. Healthy individuals are fully capable of determining when the desire to "fit in" has too high a cost. I'm not saying there aren't bad cases of societal pressure, as there are plenty, but it's not really a fault on society itself so much as it is a fault with the people who the individual is trying to fit in with. Social constructs are important to some people for a variety of reasons. Even if they have no meaning to you, they do have meaning to other people, and their beliefs are just as valid as anyone else's. Besides, nobody can force you to be a part of society. There's always a choice. Most people just determine that the benefits of their chosen society outweigh the detriments.

 

[Pinkamena]

I assume they say that because they themselves wish being able to do what I love, but cannot due to their circumstances in life. the next time they bring it up, tell them that it's your hobby. That should shut them up.

 

[Treeinthewoods]

Does the idea of being a man child bother you? I don't care anymore, I'm 31 with a good job and awesome family. I can do whatever I want and anybody who thinks my comics and video games are childish gets a polite nod and a smile, sometimes I even agree and say I will get right on fixing that as soon as possible.

I'd rather be a successful and happy man child than a miserable successful adult man.

 

[Redd the Sock]

I'm 35. I have a steady job that pays the bills with money to spare. I have a university degree. I do volunteer work. I love comics, video games, cartoons, and other "childish" things. Anyone with a problem with that can [insert anatomically impossible suggestion here].

I mean, I could do like my more mature friends and family and:

Spend all my money getting drunk / high/ laid
Gamble all my money at the casino
Gossip all day about how everyone is acting inappropriately but me
Take up crochet or other old lady hobbies in my 30s like my mother did
Pay huge child support for a mistake of years past
Watch mature TV like Honey Boo Boo or Dancing with the Stars instead of Doctor Who and Game of Thrones
Endlessly argue about various sporting events
Avoid reading all together because "books are too long"

Maturity is a state of mind and being that has nothing to do with what exactly you are in to. I'll take a comic fan with knowledge of that comic's history than someone that can't remember who won last season of the Voice.

 

[TheSteeleStrap]

Some people seem to think that reaching a certain age means you can't like what you like anymore. It's silly.

 

[The Ubermensch]

I was being sincere. Responding to your post bumped this thread after it had already fallen off the front page mostly addressed, and now a bunch of other people are coming in to say things that for the most part have already been said.

Which is why /thread

As for the rest, I too think that being what you want to be without caring what others think is a good thing, though I think my view of society is not as cynical as yours.

People with cynical outlooks like me remind everyone that things aren't as perfect as the want to think. For this reason I'm still part of society; the one who watches the watcher. CCTV might go up to increase public safety, and not to spy on you, but now that functionality is there might as well use it.

Society exists for a reason. Being a part of it doesn't make you a drone; most people do care what certain other people think of them, but they aren't slaves to those ideas.

Most people are, the ones you surround yourself with personally might not be, or perhaps they only ***** and moan about the injustices thrust upon them, but the entire western world is set up to indoctrinate people into accepting the status quo.

In order to get an education one has to go into debt, once in debt you are a slave to those whom you owe. If you don't have an education you don't have the clout to change anything, if you do have an education you're already part of the system that keeps everyone down.

Healthy individuals are fully capable of determining when the desire to "fit in" has too high a cost. I'm not saying there aren't bad cases of societal pressure, as there are plenty, but it's not really a fault on society itself so much as it is a fault with the people who the individual is trying to fit in with. Social constructs are important to some people for a variety of reasons. Even if they have no meaning to you, they do have meaning to other people, and their beliefs are just as valid as anyone else's. Besides, nobody can force you to be a part of society. There's always a choice. Most people just determine that the benefits of their chosen society outweigh the detriments.

I just read that and all I got was "My humanity can be purchased".

The only recompense that I have from the current state of affairs is that I love cyber punk, so despite being dystopic, the world is kind of awesome at the same time.

 

[Vausch]

Translation: Stop having a stable job that allows you the money and free time to enjoy these things and be boring like me.

 

[FalloutJack]

The opinions of other people? When I'm having FUN? Hah hah hah...how quaint. It's almost like they're trying to make a point with their newspapers and crossword puzzles. Admittedly, crosswords are challenging, but so are other things, including this one game where I...

 

[chozo_hybrid]

As long as someone pays their bills, has food and looks after those they are responsible for (Kids etc) then peoples hobbies can be what they like.

Being mature, would mean letting people enjoy what they like and not being a jerk about it.

 

[Kolby Jack]

I was being sincere. Responding to your post bumped this thread after it had already fallen off the front page mostly addressed, and now a bunch of other people are coming in to say things that for the most part have already been said.

Which is why /thread

...Yeaaaa. My bad.

As for the rest, I too think that being what you want to be without caring what others think is a good thing, though I think my view of society is not as cynical as yours.

People with cynical outlooks like me remind everyone that things aren't as perfect as the want to think. For this reason I'm still part of society; the one who watches the watcher. CCTV might go up to increase public safety, and not to spy on you, but now that functionality is there might as well use it.

Well I doubt I'd be able to convince you of anything else I said, I will say that if cynics are important because they remind people things could be better, isn't the opposite also true? That optimists like me are important because we remind people things could be worse?

 

[Gnmish]

You know it's funny, if you game for 2-3 hours a day and spend a few hundred bucks a month on it, people will tell you, you are wasting your time/money. If you spend 2-3 hours a day watching sports and TV shows and spend a few hundred bucks a month on booze and betting on said sport, then that's OK.

To OP, I'm 33, married, with a kid and another on the way. I own and run a $6 million dollar business with 30 people on the payroll. I come home every day, spend the evening with my family till they go to bed and then get in a couple of hours of gaming, no one could ever claim there is anything childish or irresponsible about my life.

Don't listen to those morons who say it's immature or a waste of time, everyone needs downtime. Gaming is a far better alternative to drinking and gambling, which those same morons will tell are "adult or grown-up" activities.