Isnt it funny how IGN are trying to defend EA when EA bribes IGN to give their game better reviews
So IGN decided to ask "why do people hate EA"
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Yeah, I find it dumbfounding that EA's shares were awesome-high in 2007-08, around the time I like them when they were releasing new IPs, inexpensive content-filled infrequent expansion packs and a finite number of respectable sequels; and drops continually when they contracted sequel-itis and started gouging its consumers banks accounts during a global depression.Dexter111 said:snip
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If they wanted to "better themselves" and be more attractive to consumers and get some good PR for once, they could always trim down all the fat to keep development costs lower and maybe save some money from those $100 million marketing campaigns to give them on to their customers.
They somewhat tried some of that in ~2007-08 by introducing a lot of new IP and trying to cut down on the gouging, but rather soon turned around to more of it.
Whenever they are somewhat getting into monetary trouble they aren't looking for a fault in their business models but with the customer, surely by charging more, gouging with microtransactions and offer more cut out DLC to buy at Launch, as well as producing ever more sequels and shortening the development cycle to a year or two tops they're going to fix that right up.
They don't quite 'make good games' though. They 'make decent sequels'. Other than that, they use their powerful size to buy out developers and cripple their individual creativity, and coerce others into allowing them to help 'back' their new, fresh IP in exchange for some of the rights to it. Then they sit on those rights, and simply do nothing with them except sue people for infringing them.
Haha that's exactly the thing with EA. It's not that (for instance) Valve is inherently better re: goals (make an obscene amount of money) and methods (digital distribution w/ included DRM), it's that they choose not to actively antagonize customers and release obviously terrible products. EA doesn't just suck at making games - they suck as a business.Bvenged said:
Because it's being run by shareholders and investors who know fuck-all about videogames and it's audience. That's not the case with companies like Valve and CDProjekt. They're ran by people who are actually part of the target audience for their product, or at least are passionate about the medium of videogames.FelixG said:
As I've said before, I have no doubt that many people at EA are just as passionate about videogames. The problem is that they're not on top.
Because they are all about money and controversy and they don't give a fuck about actual quality of games. Which is ironically the same reason why IGN probably loves EA!
I hate when people misuse the spoiler tag.
Hint: Don't use the spoiler tag to hide an article that is the main point of your damn thread. If it's the main point of your thread, why hide it?
Also, some people use it to hide entire quoted posts or even YouTube videos that don't contain spoilers.
As for the article, I hate when people act like anything goes because a business is supposed to make money. That's where I stopped reading the "spoiler".
Hint: Don't use the spoiler tag to hide an article that is the main point of your damn thread. If it's the main point of your thread, why hide it?
Also, some people use it to hide entire quoted posts or even YouTube videos that don't contain spoilers.
As for the article, I hate when people act like anything goes because a business is supposed to make money. That's where I stopped reading the "spoiler".
You know what if EA went bankrupt and goes under, it's gonna be pretty cathartic when it does happen and we laugh and celebrate at its demise.
Although I will feel sorry for the people that will lose their jobs in the process if this ever happens.
Although I will feel sorry for the people that will lose their jobs in the process if this ever happens.
Of course IGN asked why people hate EA, I mean it's not like they're in the right business to know that kind of thing already.
Also, calling the people who hate EA a tiny minority...Well that's just a laughable attempt at an EA defence.
Also, calling the people who hate EA a tiny minority...Well that's just a laughable attempt at an EA defence.
Why I personally hate EA?
Because it's the omen of the industry becoming McVideogames that's why...with everything bad associated to the term.
I just read about damage control marketing and professional trolling so I take the article with a grain of salt.
Because it's the omen of the industry becoming McVideogames that's why...with everything bad associated to the term.
I just read about damage control marketing and professional trolling so I take the article with a grain of salt.
You got it mate there we go fixed because unlike EA I listen to people and their issues and try to fix themCrono1973 said:
I don't hate EA, but I wouldn't say I like them either. They haven't really produced anything that's got my interest in the last... a long time. I think maybe Nightfire on Gamecube was the last time I got into an EA game... That said, from what I hear they're doing some pretty dodgy stuff with their online passes, utterly shitty Origin pricing and all that.
Look, the "they're a corporation" thing doesn't fly - that's not an excuse for treating the people who make you your money like they're your own private cash point. People don't like EA becasue they try to bleed them dry and doing everything in the name of money, when instead they should be doing it in the name of customer satisfaction. Get that and the money follows, as does a more solid fanbase and tolerance for genuine screw-ups.
Oh, hi Valve.
Again: "We're a business to make money," does not equate to a free Be a Dick pass.
Oh, hi Valve.
Again: "We're a business to make money," does not equate to a free Be a Dick pass.
To quote Richard Garriott, the two games he made that weren't as good as they could have been, was when he listened to other people telling him how to do his job.
At its core, that's the problem with the big publishers.
At its core, that's the problem with the big publishers.
I stopped paying attention around the time they started citing metacritic scores in EA's defense.
Y'know what metacritic is? A means for developers to openly ignore what their fans think by superimposing that:
"User scores: generally negative."
Right beside this:
"Critic scores: OH MY GOD CAN I SUCK YOUR DICK!? I'LL SUCK YOUR DICK FOR A SANDWICH! I LOVE YOU EA!!!"
(Hint: if user scores almost never align with critic scores, the critics opinion's are useless.)
Also, there's something fundamentally stupid about asking the object of everyone's ire why they're hated. I seriously doubt they have a clear view on things.
Chinese Correspondent: So Mr. President, why does the west fear and hate us?
Hu Jintao: Well naturally they're jealous of our social progress. Next question.
Oh, and one last thing. Colin Campbell? Opening your article like this:
"Did I say hate? I meant dislike. Well, dislike's kind of a strong word. Disagree with, maybe? Well, there's only a few of them. It doesn't really matter. But why are they so irrelevant and wrong?"
Makes you the worst kind of journalist there is. You deserve to wear a badge that reads:
"Fit only to serve fried food. Please kick me."
Y'know what metacritic is? A means for developers to openly ignore what their fans think by superimposing that:
"User scores: generally negative."
Right beside this:
"Critic scores: OH MY GOD CAN I SUCK YOUR DICK!? I'LL SUCK YOUR DICK FOR A SANDWICH! I LOVE YOU EA!!!"
(Hint: if user scores almost never align with critic scores, the critics opinion's are useless.)
Also, there's something fundamentally stupid about asking the object of everyone's ire why they're hated. I seriously doubt they have a clear view on things.
Chinese Correspondent: So Mr. President, why does the west fear and hate us?
Hu Jintao: Well naturally they're jealous of our social progress. Next question.
Oh, and one last thing. Colin Campbell? Opening your article like this:
"Did I say hate? I meant dislike. Well, dislike's kind of a strong word. Disagree with, maybe? Well, there's only a few of them. It doesn't really matter. But why are they so irrelevant and wrong?"
Makes you the worst kind of journalist there is. You deserve to wear a badge that reads:
"Fit only to serve fried food. Please kick me."
Why do people hate EA? Because on the internet it's THE thing to do. They write bile all over forums proclaiming them to be evil, unehtical, etc..... and then run to Gamestop and buy EA games on launch day.
Edit: Reading through these comments is pretty funny. It's remarkable how people on the internet think they are actually a majority of gamers. In truth it's the far opposite.
Edit: Reading through these comments is pretty funny. It's remarkable how people on the internet think they are actually a majority of gamers. In truth it's the far opposite.