So, Pirates are Playing Diablo 3

[shintakie10]

I'm surprised that this thread hasn't rolled over and died. As has been repeated multiple times pirates are not currently playing Diablo 3, all that's been released is an uncracked version of the client. To properly pirate the game will require someone to successfully reverse engineer the servers at Blizzard's end as that's where all of the dungeon/loot tables/boss mechanics are stored, they are NOT available locally. It is very unlikely a fully functional server operating on the same rules as the Blizzard server will ever be available; however something coming close(ish) will likely appear at some point in the not to distant future. This is because much of the content seems to be randomly generated so fully reverse engineering the mechanics employed by Blizzard may never be possible, as information on the content generator will be lost on completion of the operation, in a similar way to integration and differentiation.

Despite not being a big fan of always on DRM, I can sort of see why it was included with the real money auction house and all that, still not buying the game but that's more because its's not my cup of tea.

Didn't Ubisoft try some DRM once that tied the game to a server and then pirates just created a perfectly functional fake server?

It isn't like this hasn't been attempted by game companies before, and then it failed.

Ubisoft did not do that. The Assassins creed DRM was a ton of different authentications randomly through the game. While playin the game would send a sort of ping to the server when you reached a spot to basically "unlock" whatever you are doin. The data is still on the disc though. With D3, the data is almost all on the servers.

 

[Fidelias]

I know the game has been cracked. I know someone who pirated the game, using a server emulator or something. It looks just like my copy which I paid for, except his has no lag...

woot...

 

[Tony2077]

isn't is nice to hear people cheering for the pirates god this planet is more warped then i thought

If it can soothe your pain a little, it's the first time I do so. I think their decision to remove features because of greed is horrible, and I wish people wouldn't have bought it in the first place. Hopefully they can go even further next time and alienate their fanbase for real.

unless they do something to make it worse then having the system as a paperweight i doubt I'll ever see online drm as a bad thing. my old xbox the big black one broke so its just sitting out there hoping i do something with it

 

[Substitute Troll]

YOHO YOHO a pirates life for me!


There realy is no stopping a pirate unless you make the game an MMORPG.
but even then they learn to make private servers.

You cant really make sure pirates wont take the game.

and someone said this
True, there will always be people who want to get something for free, but they wouldn't buy the game anyway. Not lost sales.
^this

And to be fair, private servers aren't the same as pirating something. It's pretty much harmless unless you're making money off of it.

 

[BoogieManFL]

By why play a pirated version when you can be online having fun and get a message saying the servers are going down in 5 minutes, like they didn't know earlier than that?

Or better yet, get a massive lagspike during a big ass fight that's entirely not your fault.

 

[NortherWolf]

This game marks the acceptance of several things:
Always online DRM for singleplayer
Ridiculous money schemes (HI 30% BLIZZARD CUT FROM AUCTION)
Shit graphics
Shit gameplay
Shit voicework
Shit story

This is the future. Gamers willingly pay $60 for this trash, proving to the industry that gamers will buy anything as long as its made by a well known company.

I'd rather give up gaming as a hobby than see another idiot praising Diablo 3 (DURR 9/10 ACROSS THE BOARD DESPITE IT BEING OBJECTIVELY SUBPAR)

...incomplete piece of garbage.

You don't need emulated Diablo 3 for that, the legal purchasable game is more than enough to fit that description.

Don't forget that some gamers cheer that evolution on.

To a very large group of posters in this thread; Thanks for reminding me why I genuinely despised Blizz-fans.

 

[Tanakh]

Didn't Ubisoft try some DRM once that tied the game to a server and then pirates just created a perfectly functional fake server?

It isn't like this hasn't been attempted by game companies before, and then it failed.

Ubisoft did tried that, and it worked actually, but was such bad press they released a patch to allow the players to use the game after a one time activation, after that the game was hacked. I think you are talking about this case http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/03/05/027258/ubisofts-new-drm-cracked-in-one-day , the headline is a little sensationalist, but if you bother to read the article it's a bit more complex than it seems.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

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this part of jay and silent bob reminds me of what i'd like to do to blizzard fanboys


really dislike and can't understand how anti consumer and anti progressive people are...*sigh*

 

[NortherWolf]

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this part of jay and silent bob reminds me of what i'd like to do to blizzard fanboys


really dislike and can't understand how anti consumer and anti progressive people are...*sigh*

*laughs*
Why thank you. Between that and the Bill Hicks video in another thread I now have replies to the fanboys who so eagerly cheer on the ruination of consumer rights.

I just don't get it, I got it in the early 2000's when everything was different, gaming wasn't what it is today...But I'm pretty sure that even back then people would have said "No, you're not ******* us in the **** Blizzard."

 

[Fishyash]

If this purely served as DRM, I would be avoiding this game like the plague, however I feel its a necessary evil if they want the real money auction house to work. I have nothing against the RMAH, in fact I am rather appreciative of it. This is why the game being online-only wasn't a deal breaker to me. I preferred the multiplayer on Diablo 2 anyways.

Also, I am slightly in disbelief that someone managed to emulate a server merely days after the release. Maybe they will make it possible to play on private servers... but I doubt that can happen any time soon.

One more thing, if you need a private server to play the game, doesn't that mean you still need to connect to it? Can somebody clarify? A cracked version of Diablo 3 will still require some form of connection to the server, is it even possible to play a cracked version offline?

EDIT: Despite this, I still think I should have waited and at least give torchlight 2 a second look. I kinda regret forking over £40 for this, because it really isn't worth that much.

 

[DancePuppets]

This game marks the acceptance of several things:
Always online DRM for singleplayer
Ridiculous money schemes (HI 30% BLIZZARD CUT FROM AUCTION)
Shit graphics
Shit gameplay
Shit voicework
Shit story

This is the future. Gamers willingly pay $60 for this trash, proving to the industry that gamers will buy anything as long as its made by a well known company.

I'd rather give up gaming as a hobby than see another idiot praising Diablo 3 (DURR 9/10 ACROSS THE BOARD DESPITE IT BEING OBJECTIVELY SUBPAR)

Not entirely sure what you mean by "objectively" sub-par, quite what are you measuring that's objective here? The number of polygons on the models? Amount of processing power required per second? Cost of game to produce versus cost of purchase? Number of hours to complete the story? Also, in this "objective" measure what exactly counts as sub par.

I think what you actually mean is that subjectively it's sub par in your eyes. Not having played it and with no desire to do so I currently have no SUBJECTIVE opinion on the game.

 

[Kingpopadopalus]

Why are we in a situation where people who stole Diablo 3 are able to launch the game and just... play, while people who purchased the game have to wait for servers to be fixed to play single player?

Steal the cracked game, play it.

Buy the game, don't get to play it.

That DRM sure did work >_>

Online only was never about the DRM or piracy. It was keeping the game less susceptible to cheating and hacks.

If they are worried about cheating and hacks, make an online mods and an offline mode, where a character made in the later cannot be used in the former and vice-versa.

This has nothing to do with hacks and cheats and everything to do with money.

Cause we all know how well that worked in d2.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

Why are we in a situation where people who stole Diablo 3 are able to launch the game and just... play, while people who purchased the game have to wait for servers to be fixed to play single player?

Steal the cracked game, play it.

Buy the game, don't get to play it.

That DRM sure did work >_>

Online only was never about the DRM or piracy. It was keeping the game less susceptible to cheating and hacks.

If they are worried about cheating and hacks, make an online mods and an offline mode, where a character made in the later cannot be used in the former and vice-versa.

This has nothing to do with hacks and cheats and everything to do with money.

Cause we all know how well that worked in d2.

It would work if they wanted it too, but they are so intent on squeezing money out of people with their real money auction house that they would never let it. See, all you have to do is make the single player version unable to connect to the servers. Done. If you start an offline character, they are permanently offline. Forever. No servers. No internet.

I know the game has been cracked. I know someone who pirated the game, using a server emulator or something. It looks just like my copy which I paid for, except his has no lag...

woot...

Totally fair how that works out, huh.

 

[Wintermoot]

I don't think this is the first time the pirated version is better then the retail.

 

[Kingpopadopalus]

Why are we in a situation where people who stole Diablo 3 are able to launch the game and just... play, while people who purchased the game have to wait for servers to be fixed to play single player?

Steal the cracked game, play it.

Buy the game, don't get to play it.

That DRM sure did work >_>

Online only was never about the DRM or piracy. It was keeping the game less susceptible to cheating and hacks.

If they are worried about cheating and hacks, make an online mods and an offline mode, where a character made in the later cannot be used in the former and vice-versa.

This has nothing to do with hacks and cheats and everything to do with money.

Cause we all know how well that worked in d2.

It would work if they wanted it too, but they are so intent on squeezing money out of people with their real money auction house that they would never let it. See, all you have to do is make the single player version unable to connect to the servers. Done. If you start an offline character, they are permanently offline. Forever. No servers. No internet.

I know the game has been cracked. I know someone who pirated the game, using a server emulator or something. It looks just like my copy which I paid for, except his has no lag...

woot...

Totally fair how that works out, huh.

You missed the sarcastic point entirely. The point was that even if there were seperate online and offline people found ways to hack it. It happens no matter what game you play, take cod for example.

 

[evilneko]

If this purely served as DRM, I would be avoiding this game like the plague, however I feel its a necessary evil if they want the real money auction house to work. I have nothing against the RMAH, in fact I am rather appreciative of it. This is why the game being online-only wasn't a deal breaker to me. I preferred the multiplayer on Diablo 2 anyways.

Also, I am slightly in disbelief that someone managed to emulate a server merely days after the release. Maybe they will make it possible to play on private servers... but I doubt that can happen any time soon.

One more thing, if you need a private server to play the game, doesn't that mean you still need to connect to it? Can somebody clarify? A cracked version of Diablo 3 will still require some form of connection to the server, is it even possible to play a cracked version offline?

EDIT: Despite this, I still think I should have waited and at least give torchlight 2 a second look. I kinda regret forking over £40 for this, because it really isn't worth that much.

The RMAH could've been protected without forcing single player to be online.

When the cracked version of Diablo 3 comes--and it will--it will most likely be in one of two forms: either the game will no longer need to connect to a server at all, or the crack will involve running the server locally.

 

[Kair]

Just to clarify, stealing means taking something away.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

Why are we in a situation where people who stole Diablo 3 are able to launch the game and just... play, while people who purchased the game have to wait for servers to be fixed to play single player?

Steal the cracked game, play it.

Buy the game, don't get to play it.

That DRM sure did work >_>

Online only was never about the DRM or piracy. It was keeping the game less susceptible to cheating and hacks.

If they are worried about cheating and hacks, make an online mods and an offline mode, where a character made in the later cannot be used in the former and vice-versa.

This has nothing to do with hacks and cheats and everything to do with money.

Cause we all know how well that worked in d2.

It would work if they wanted it too, but they are so intent on squeezing money out of people with their real money auction house that they would never let it. See, all you have to do is make the single player version unable to connect to the servers. Done. If you start an offline character, they are permanently offline. Forever. No servers. No internet.

I know the game has been cracked. I know someone who pirated the game, using a server emulator or something. It looks just like my copy which I paid for, except his has no lag...

woot...

Totally fair how that works out, huh.

You missed the sarcastic point entirely. The point was that even if there were seperate online and offline people found ways to hack it. It happens no matter what game you play, take cod for example.

Um, I don't know if you actually play any of the Call of Duty games online, but hacking is very rare and anyone who does it very quickly finds themselves banned. I've played Modern Warfare 1 and 2, as well as Black Ops extensively and in all my years there, saw... maybe one hacker.

Besides, your entire point is irrelevant. You're saying there's no point in offering people single player content because people will find a way to hack multiplayer. Nice logic.

 

[lapan]

Good, now all the haters can play their "offline version", and us others can enjoy the great things the "online version" brings us. Win-win, everyones happy, discussion OVER!

What are these great advantages the online version brings?

Multiplayer, and bosses dropping pizzas.

And day long server outages rendering us unable to play. YAY!

 

[Chunga the Great]

Good. I genuinely hope that Blizzard sees that pirates are playing the game and say "oh, well maybe this DRM thing wasn't a good thing." Although they probably won't. What's funny is there are still people who can somehow defend Blizzard's DRM.